[Vinylanach]

We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to step down as
the vice-presidential candidate. This baby thing's about to explode
big-time. The Republicans will try to say she was noble by doing
this, but the fact is she lied every which way to pull this off.

Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping Christian family
that can't quite keep its randy teenagers under control.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Sep, 02:56, Vinylanach wrote:
We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to step down as
the vice-presidential candidate. This baby thing's about to explode
big-time. *The Republicans will try to say she was noble by doing
this, but the fact is she lied every which way to pull this off.

Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping Christian family
that can't quite keep its randy teenagers under control.

Boon

If this is all true, why (at the time it happened) cover
for her daughter, its no big stigmal, being young, single, and
pregnant
in the 21st century

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 1, 8:53�am, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 1 Sep, 02:56, Vinylanach wrote:

We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to step down as
the vice-presidential candidate. This baby thing's about to explode
big-time. �The Republicans will try to say she was noble by doing
this, but the fact is she lied every which way to pull this off.

Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping Christian family
that can't quite keep its randy teenagers under control.

Boon

If this is all true, why (at the time it happened) cover
for her daughter, its no big stigmal, being young, single, and
pregnant
in the 21st century

Well...she lied to everyone about it. I think it would have shown
integrity to tell everyone "Hey, my 16-year-old daughter is pregnant,
but we're a Christian family and we stick together and we'll get
through this and do the right thing."

The whole cover-up mentality is what's most alarming. If you
remember, that's what Watergate was about.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Vinylanach said:

The whole cover-up mentality is what's most alarming. If you
remember, that's what Watergate was about.

I thought Watergate was about the persecution of a visionary leader and
his cadre of ultra-loyal super-patriots by the commie-symp liberal press.

But on reflection, you might be right.

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 1, 10:13�am, George M. Middius
wrote:
Vinylanach said:

The whole cover-up mentality is what's most alarming. �If you
remember, that's what Watergate was about.

I thought Watergate was about the persecution of a visionary leader and
his cadre of ultra-loyal super-patriots by the commie-symp liberal press.

But on reflection, you might be right.

Or, it could have been a purely political move...you know, "I'm the
candidate with the baby with Downs syndrome!" Too bad Trevor wasn't
impressed.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 1 Sep, 18:29, Vinylanach wrote:
On Sep 1, 10:13 am, George M. Middius
wrote:

Vinylanach said:

The whole cover-up mentality is what's most alarming. If you
remember, that's what Watergate was about.

I thought Watergate was about the persecution of a visionary leader and
his cadre of ultra-loyal super-patriots by the commie-symp liberal press.

But on reflection, you might be right.

Or, it could have been a purely political move...you know, "I'm the
candidate with the baby with Downs syndrome!" *Too bad Trevor wasn't
impressed.



he seems to hate all children.

[Arny Krueger]

"Vinylanach" wrote in message


We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

This baby thing's about to explode big-time.

It already happened. Next.

The Republicans will
try to say she was noble by doing this, but the fact is
she lied every which way to pull this off.

So why not document the lie, Boonie? Oh, you can't. There's wasn't a lie.
It's all in your little pea brain.

Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping
Christian family that can't quite keep its randy
teenagers under control.

I'm sure you'd sing a different song if it was your daughter? BTW Marc, do
you even custody of any of your children at this time? More to the point
Marc, if we did DNA tests, would any child's DNA show that you were the
father?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Turdborg smears himself all over.

I love to take a bite from a great big ol' **** sandwich in the morning.

Yes, we know, Arnii. Did the Kroobitch have to wake you up for today's
feeding?

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 2, 4:57�am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Vinylanach" wrote in message



We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

You do? Interesting. Well, we already know that you can't possible
defend your imaginary God by using reason, logic and evidence, but how
about this...I've been a registered Republican since 1980, right after
I turned 18.


This baby �thing's about to explode big-time.

It already happened. Next.

Nope. It's still a cover-up. Why do photos exist of Palin when she
was 7 months pregnant, and there isn't even a baby bump?


The Republicans will
try to say she was noble by doing this, but the fact is
she lied every which way to pull this off.

So why not document the lie, Boonie? Oh, you can't. There's wasn't a lie.
It's all in your little pea brain.

Are you going to apologize to me when it's all unraveled? I won't
hold my breath.


Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping
Christian family that can't quite keep its randy
teenagers under control.

I'm sure you'd sing a different song if it was your daughter?

I wouldn't run for Vice President if my 16-year-old daughter was
pregnant for the second time. It would show a profound lack of
judgment.

BTW Marc, do
you even custody of any of your children at this time?

Here we go again...trying to make up **** out of thin air.

My children live with me every day.

More to the point
Marc, if we did DNA tests, would any child's DNA show that you were the
father?

We could ask the same question about your children. In other words,
it's a meaningless statement, and it only shows that I'm able to get
to you over and over again and fill you full of hate and anger...you
know, like most Christians these days.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 2 Sep, 12:33, Vinylanach wrote:


I wouldn't run for Vice President if my 16-year-old daughter was
pregnant for the second time. *It would show a profound lack of
judgment.



According to your scenario, she would be popping out the second one
just nine months after the first one. What a machine!

How does your daughter's irresponsibility affect your judgement?
Should parents be required to take the blame for all the mistakes of
their kids?
Having fine, outstanding children is a qualifier for public office?
How about bad silings, does that knock you out also?
Bad parents, too?

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 2, 3:52�pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 2 Sep, 12:33, Vinylanach wrote:



I wouldn't run for Vice President if my 16-year-old daughter was
pregnant for the second time. �It would show a profound lack of
judgment.

According to your scenario, she would be popping out the second one
just nine months after the first one. What a machine!

It's called Irish twins.

I'm not saying it all adds up. In fact, I'm saying none of it adds
up, and that the truth is even more convoluted than we imagined. If
the daughter suddenly "miscarries," then it will be obvious what
happened.


How does your daughter's irresponsibility affect your judgement?

Because you didn't raise her right...especially by Christian
standards. (And I use the term :standards" very loosely when it comes
to Christian, since they tend to fluctuate according to the sales
plan...er, I mean God's plan.)

Should parents be required to take the blame for all the mistakes of
their kids?

It would be a better world if they did.

Having fine, outstanding children is a qualifier for public office?

Yes. It means you led your children into adulthood with care and
skill and intelligence.

How about bad silings, does that knock you out also?

Do you mean if one of your kids is good and one is bad? That's called
inconsistency and an inability to adjust to different circumstances.
Not a good trait for a leader.

Bad parents, too?

If you can succeed despite a bad childhood, then you're strong and
independent. If you blame everything on your parents, you're a victim
and you have no right to lead others.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 2 Sep, 12:33, Vinylanach wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:57 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Vinylanach" wrote in message



We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

You do? Interesting. *Well, we already know that you can't possible
defend your imaginary God by using reason, logic and evidence, but how
about this...I've been a registered Republican since 1980, right after
I turned 18.



This baby thing's about to explode big-time.

It already happened. Next.

Nope. *It's still a cover-up. *Why do photos exist of Palin when she
was 7 months pregnant, and there isn't even a baby bump?



The Republicans will
try to say she was noble by doing this, but the fact is
she lied every which way to pull this off.

So why not document the lie, Boonie? Oh, you can't. There's wasn't a lie.
It's all in your little pea brain.

Are you going to apologize to me when it's all unraveled? *I won't
hold my breath.



Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping
Christian family that can't quite keep its randy
teenagers under control.

I'm sure you'd sing a different song if it was your daughter?

I wouldn't run for Vice President if my 16-year-old daughter was
pregnant for the second time. *It would show a profound lack of
judgment.

*BTW Marc, do

you even custody of any of your children at this time?

Here we go again...trying to make up **** out of thin air.

My children live with me every day.

*More to the point

Marc, if we did DNA tests, would any child's DNA show that you were the
father?

We could ask the same question about your children. *In other words,
it's a meaningless statement, and it only shows that I'm able to get
to you over and over again and fill you full of hate and anger...you
know, like most Christians these days.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 2 Sep, 12:33, Vinylanach wrote:


We could ask the same question about your children. *In other words,
it's a meaningless statement, and it only shows that I'm able to get
to you over and over again and fill you full of hate and anger...you
know, like most Christians these days.



What turned me off from the left was all of their hatreds.
It goes against the hippyish spirit of liberalism I grew up with.
I find both the far left and far right to be equally disgusting.
So,having said that, it would be hypocritical for me to keep
wishing that Arny would get run over by a Detroit city bus.
An old psychedelic festooned school bus would be much more appropriate

http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/ima...1-02-01-FP.jpg

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

I find both the far left and far right to be equally disgusting.

It's an established fact that you have absolutely NO IDEA what constitutes
the "far left".

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 2, 6:57*am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Vinylanach" wrote in message



We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

What is "hypocritical" about a politician lying, getting caught, and
then people making jokes about it, GOIA?

Is laughing about Foley, Craig, or Haggard "christian-hating'? Or is
it their hypocrisy that is the fodder for the jokes?

Hm.

This baby *thing's about to explode big-time.

It already happened. Next.

Accusations of ethics breaches concerning a state highway patrolman.

LoL.

The Republicans will
try to say she was noble by doing this, but the fact is
she lied every which way to pull this off.

So why not document the lie, Boonie? Oh, you can't. There's wasn't a lie.
It's all in your little pea brain.

So in your insanity-addled mind there is no such thing as lies of
omission.

Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping
Christian family that can't quite keep its randy
teenagers under control.

I'm sure you'd sing a different song if it was your daughter?

I sure would. I'd be singing the "If you need a ride to get things
taken care of so you can finish school and go to college instead of
living in a life of stress and squalor, call me".

BTW Marc, do you even custody of any of your children at this time?

Irrelevant.

More to the point

There was a point?

Marc, if we did DNA tests, would any child's DNA show that you were the
father?

Who is "we"? Are you now claiming to be a genetic engineer in addition
to all of the countless other fables you've spun here?

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 2, 12:04�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On Sep 2, 6:57�am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Vinylanach" wrote in message



We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

What is "hypocritical" about a politician lying, getting caught, and
then people making jokes about it, GOIA?

That's my point. I have nothing personal against Palin. It appears
that she's really doing a lot of good work in Alaska. She should stay
and complete it.


Is laughing about Foley, Craig, or Haggard "christian-hating'? Or is
it their hypocrisy that is the fodder for the jokes?

Another reason why I'm bringing this up. I'm really tired of
politicians confusing love of Jeebus with the ability to be a leader.
I think anyone who believes in fairy tales should not be in charge of
others. The hypocrisy levels are way too high.


Hm.

This baby �thing's about to explode big-time.

It already happened. Next.

Accusations of ethics breaches concerning a state highway patrolman.

Exactly. This is far from over. Besides, it's clear that Palin needs
to spend a little more time leading her family. She's got 5
kids...but have you seen all the committees and organizations she
belongs to? Something's not right about that.


LoL.

The Republicans will
try to say she was noble by doing this, but the fact is
she lied every which way to pull this off.

So why not document the lie, Boonie? Oh, you can't. There's wasn't a lie.
It's all in your little pea brain.

So in your insanity-addled mind there is no such thing as lies of
omission.

We all know Arny has a profound difficulty with telling the difference
between truth and a lie.


Plus, it's just another example of a Bible-thumping
Christian family that can't quite keep its randy
teenagers under control.

I'm sure you'd sing a different song if it was your daughter?

I sure would. I'd be singing the "If you need a ride to get things
taken care of so you can finish school and go to college instead of
living in a life of stress and squalor, call me".

Too bad Arny's maternal grandfather didn't use the same strategy.


BTW Marc, do you even custody of any of your children at this time?

Irrelevant.

More to the point

There was a point?

Marc, if we did DNA tests, would any child's DNA show that you were the
father?

Who is "we"? Are you now claiming to be a genetic engineer in addition
to all of the countless other fables you've spun here?

I'm not sure why Arny puts his ass out in the wind like this. It's a
submissive thing, I guess.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Vinylanach said:

Besides, it's clear that Palin needs
to spend a little more time leading her family. She's got 5
kids...but have you seen all the committees and organizations she
belongs to? Something's not right about that.

Could be she has a nanny. Fully documented and legal, of course. ;-)

[Clyde Slick]

On 2 Sep, 16:24, George M. Middius wrote:
Vinylanach said:

Besides, it's clear that Palin needs
to spend a little more time leading her family. *She's got 5
kids...but have you seen all the committees and organizations she
belongs to? *Something's not right about that.

Could be she has a nanny. Fully documented and legal, of course. ;-)

I hope its not Zenaida Gonzalez the same one Casey Anthony used.

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Vinylanach" wrote in message


We should start a pool on the day that Sarah Palin has to
step down as the vice-presidential candidate.

I love to see Christian-hater, Republican-hater hypocrisy in action.

**Perhaps Boon is not hating Palin for being a Christian. Perhaps he shows
contempt for her, because she is an idiot. Or do you think a woman who
decides to give birth well into her forties is showing good common-sense?
Palin, like MANY (note the emphasis) Christians, is attempting to shovel her
person belief system down the throats of every American. Or do you thnk her
idiotic stance on birth control, teenage sex education, moose hunting is all
good?

Here's a well-thought out comment from your next possible President:

---

When a reporter asked McCain whether he thought contraceptives help stop the
spread of HIV, he replied: "You've stumped me." McCain said later that he
was sure he opposed government spending on contraceptives. Asked whether he
would oppose condom distribution if he knew that condoms stop the spread of
sexually transmitted diseases, McCain said he had never got into those
issues before.

---

http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-electi...121275973.html

That's real Presidential material you're supporting. Sheesh! Over here, we'd
call him an idiot. In the US, you guys call him a Presidential candidate.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Trevor Wilson said:

**Perhaps Boon is not hating Palin for being a Christian. Perhaps he shows
contempt for her, because she is an idiot. Or do you think a woman who
decides to give birth well into her forties is showing good common-sense?

OK, I've had enough of your simplistic bombast. What you're dimly alluding
to is the overall *probability* of complications for a certain age group.
You don't know what Palin's actual risk is. Do you know for a fact that
she didn't consult her obstetrician? Are you aware that the two largest
risk factors for the baby can be diagnosed in utero? Are you aware that
the odds of the mother developing some of the big problems can be forecast
by her own, individual history?

Palin, like MANY (note the emphasis) Christians, is attempting to shovel her
person belief system down the throats of every American. Or do you thnk her
idiotic stance on birth control, teenage sex education, moose hunting is all
good?

This is a separate issue. Many voters embrace Palin's crackpot 'values'.
You just got done telling us Oz also has a problem with religious whackos.
If you think it's effective to say such beliefs as Palin holds are
nonsensical or superstitious, you don't know much about politics in the
USA.

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...



Trevor Wilson said:

**Perhaps Boon is not hating Palin for being a Christian. Perhaps he
shows
contempt for her, because she is an idiot. Or do you think a woman who
decides to give birth well into her forties is showing good common-sense?

OK, I've had enough of your simplistic bombast. What you're dimly alluding
to is the overall *probability* of complications for a certain age group.

**Indeed. Stupid women take chances by giving birth at such an age.
Therefore Palin is stupid.

You don't know what Palin's actual risk is.

**Her risk is far higher than a (say) 20 year old.

Do you know for a fact that
she didn't consult her obstetrician?

**She appears to lack the intellect to do so.

Are you aware that the two largest
risk factors for the baby can be diagnosed in utero?

**Indeed. In fact, it is highly likely that she would have been informed of
the condition of her foetus. She decided to inflict a life of hardship on
that foetus anyway.

Are you aware that
the odds of the mother developing some of the big problems can be forecast
by her own, individual history?

**Yep.


Palin, like MANY (note the emphasis) Christians, is attempting to shovel
her
person belief system down the throats of every American. Or do you thnk
her
idiotic stance on birth control, teenage sex education, moose hunting is
all
good?

This is a separate issue. Many voters embrace Palin's crackpot 'values'.

**I'm sure they do.

You just got done telling us Oz also has a problem with religious whackos.

**Indeed. BIG problems.

If you think it's effective to say such beliefs as Palin holds are
nonsensical or superstitious, you don't know much about politics in the
USA.

**Apparently.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Harry Lavo]

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...



"George M. Middius" wrote in message
...



Trevor Wilson said:

**Perhaps Boon is not hating Palin for being a Christian. Perhaps he
shows
contempt for her, because she is an idiot. Or do you think a woman who
decides to give birth well into her forties is showing good
common-sense?

OK, I've had enough of your simplistic bombast. What you're dimly
alluding
to is the overall *probability* of complications for a certain age group.

**Indeed. Stupid women take chances by giving birth at such an age.
Therefore Palin is stupid.

You don't know what Palin's actual risk is.

**Her risk is far higher than a (say) 20 year old.

Do you know for a fact that
she didn't consult her obstetrician?

**She appears to lack the intellect to do so.

Are you aware that the two largest
risk factors for the baby can be diagnosed in utero?

**Indeed. In fact, it is highly likely that she would have been informed
of the condition of her foetus. She decided to inflict a life of hardship
on that foetus anyway.

Are you aware that
the odds of the mother developing some of the big problems can be
forecast
by her own, individual history?

**Yep.


Palin, like MANY (note the emphasis) Christians, is attempting to shovel
her
person belief system down the throats of every American. Or do you thnk
her
idiotic stance on birth control, teenage sex education, moose hunting is
all
good?

This is a separate issue. Many voters embrace Palin's crackpot 'values'.

**I'm sure they do.

You just got done telling us Oz also has a problem with religious
whackos.

**Indeed. BIG problems.

If you think it's effective to say such beliefs as Palin holds are
nonsensical or superstitious, you don't know much about politics in the
USA.

**Apparently.


That doesn't mean they aren't nonsensical or supersticious. It simply means
that damn near 50% of our country is too ignorant, lazy, or supersticious to
think things like this through. It's easier just to learn the ideological
cant, and repeat it.

[Clyde Slick]

On 3 Sep, 19:10, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote in messagenews:9s2ub4l562p29qjr86jnrrpr8uldoqp8c3@4ax .com...



Trevor Wilson said:

**Perhaps Boon is not hating Palin for being a Christian. Perhaps he
shows
contempt for her, because she is an idiot. Or do you think a woman who
decides to give birth well into her forties is showing good common-sense?

OK, I've had enough of your simplistic bombast. What you're dimly alluding
to is the overall *probability* of complications for a certain age group.

**Indeed. Stupid women take chances by giving birth at such an age.
Therefore Palin is stupid.

You don't know what Palin's actual risk is.

**Her risk is far higher than a (say) 20 year old.

*Do you know for a fact that

she didn't consult her obstetrician?

**She appears to lack the intellect to do so.

*Are you aware that the two largest

risk factors for the baby can be diagnosed in utero?

**Indeed. In fact, it is highly likely that she would have been informed of
the condition of her foetus. She decided to inflict a life of hardship on
that foetus anyway.

*Are you aware that

the odds of the mother developing some of the big problems can be forecast
by her own, individual history?

**Yep.



Palin, like MANY (note the emphasis) Christians, is attempting to shovel
her
person belief system down the throats of every American. Or do you thnk
her
idiotic stance on birth control, teenage sex education, moose hunting is
all
good?

This is a separate issue. Many voters embrace Palin's crackpot 'values'..

**I'm sure they do.

You just got done telling us Oz also has a problem with religious whackos.

**Indeed. BIG problems.

If you think it's effective to say such beliefs as Palin holds are
nonsensical or superstitious, you don't know much about politics in the
USA.

**Apparently.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

I actually completely agree with you. It is every man's responsibility
to completely control what women do with their bodies.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 3, 6:10*pm, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote in

**Indeed. Stupid women take chances by giving birth at such an age.
Therefore Palin is stupid.

You don't know what Palin's actual risk is.

**Her risk is far higher than a (say) 20 year old.

*Do you know for a fact that

she didn't consult her obstetrician?

**She appears to lack the intellect to do so.

*Are you aware that the two largest

risk factors for the baby can be diagnosed in utero?

**Indeed. In fact, it is highly likely that she would have been informed of
the condition of her foetus. She decided to inflict a life of hardship on
that foetus anyway.

She knew the baby had Downs Syndrome. Palin has been quoted as saying
something about God blessing them with a child with Downs Syndrome.

I have no problem with that, as that is their choice. I do have a
problem with them telling everybody else that they *must* make that
same choice.

I also have a problem bringing someone who clearly wants to reduce the
separation of church and state into the white house...again. I see no
difference between government by christians and government by Muslims.