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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:11:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

It's also quite obvious that doing time-synched,
level-matched, bias-controlled listening tests is way
beyond your mental and technical faculties.

Watch it. Arnie's on his "mental midget" thing again.

Well, when in the land of mental midgets, what's a boy to do?

You're in your sixties, Arny. You're not a boy. You've wasted years
and years of your life on the Internet. Your behavior has been ignoble
at best, and a complete and utter waste at worst.

But at least you get to go out once a year and hike. I'm sure that
lets you rationalize everything you've done the other 51 weeks of the
year.

Boon

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Marc still hasn't updated his working vocabulary to the
21st century. He thinks that "geek" is a bad word.

"Internet geek" is a bad word.

What sort of fool thinks that whatever he says, no matter how nonsensible,
no matter how orthogonal his intended meaning is to modern thought, is
revealed truth? Obviously, a fool named Marc Phillips.

Hmmm. I seem to have struck a nerve with you today. I'm wondering if
that while you were on your hike, if you thought about me the whole
time. Instead of looking around at nature, enjoying yourself, enjoying
the company of others, you spent the whole time thinking of me, and
what your strategy would be when you came back.

And when you came back, the first thing you did was reply to almost
every single post I'd made in your absence. It was quite flattering,
Arny, when I logged on yesterday and saw that. I know I ruined your
vacation.

That's why you complain when I leave the group for long periods of
time. I get it now. You miss me. You think about me all the time.
You obsess over me.

Ewwwwww!!!

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 18:43:05 -0700, wrote:

You can't tell that a laptop with a pair of speakers the size of
headphone drivers isn't going to sound lousy without auditioning it?

Compared to what? Other laptops? Or someone's reference system? You
seem to have a problem with a basis of comparison here.


No, I think you are the one who shifts his basis of comparison around
so as to avoid answering a question.

Actually, I answered your question very specifically.


I stated that there are some things that I don't need to listen to to
know that they're going to sound lousy. I used a Dell laptop as an
example of this.

And, as a computer geek, you found it impossible to believe that
someone wouldn't automatically know about the sound quality of a
certain brand of laptop. And yes, I was laughing at you for thinking
that.

Boon

Somehow this confused you.

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On 6 Oct 2006 21:17:19 -0700, wrote:


dizzy wrote:
wrote:

I don't really know what a Dell notebook is, so I
have no idea.

Thanks for the proof that you're a bald-face liar.

What are you, ****ing high?


I think you're the one who has been smoking rope.

So, I've got a little $5 AM/FM radio I keep in a desk
drawer just in case. (It came in handy in 2003 when
nobody had AC power in the Eastern US and we needed some
info on what was going on.)

Are you saying that it might sound just wonderful and
that you can't tell whether it will or not until you
listen to it?

I'm saying that I haven't any preconceptions about it.

In the next statement you contradict that claim, Marc. You say "It might
better than I expect", which means exactly that you already have
expectations or preconceptions that you are going to compare future
perceptions to.

It might sound better than I expect, or worse than I
expect.

Thanks for admitting that you have expectations about how it will sound.
IOW, you have preconceptions, or is the connection between expectations and
preconceptions lost on you, Boonie-boy?

Goodamn, Arny, this is so stupid, I can't believe it. I mean, I don't
know how you can **** this point up so completely. I just admitted the
opposite.


I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current system, is it manditory
that one listen to every $5 AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.

Wow, Arny. You're not making sense anymore. I'm not sure how to
respond. Would you like a lollipop?

Boon

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Do you understand now, moron?

Yup, Boonie is a real gentleman, so well-spoken.

I don't suffer fools gladly. You, if anyone, should know that.

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 15:00:14 -0700, wrote:

.

So no, I'm really not an expert on laptop sound. For all I know, there
might be a laptop that sounds really, really good.

Do you understand now, moron?

Yes, I understand you don't have any clue what you're talking about.
:-)

Finally you get it! When it comes to the sound quality of laptops, I
indeed don't know what I'm talking about!

How many posts did it take for you to figure this out? Frankly, I'm
amazed. I'm not sure how much more time I can spend helping you out
here.

Boon

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different recordings, and with
different associated equipment, right?

How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely turntable on eBay and
bought it.

After asking me my opinion.

It seems to work a whole lot better than you have claimed that it
can.

Yes, I'm sure you're happy with it, since it spins around, and when you
put the needle on the record, music comes out.

Vinyl sounds pretty grim compared to modern formats, and the
emperor's
turntable can't fix a format that has gone about 50 years since the last
time they tweaked it seriously.

Wow, sounds like you're really not happy with that table after all.
Perhaps you should have listened to me more closely!

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 18:58:00 -0700, wrote:


It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never lived until you heard
a Yammakwaski Nightengale power amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp"
schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's "Waaahhhh...I can't afford
anything good, so I'll attack everyone who has better taste than me!"
schtick.

Boon's equating costly with "good" noted.

Nope. I'm just pointing out that on RAO, when it comes to the
objectivist vs, subjectivists debates, it always turns out to be,
underneath it all, a battle between the haves and the have-nots.

Boon

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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
, Mr Fox
wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave reviews.
So who is planning to buy? Anybdy actually receive a
pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid and
well-built, mostly. This does translate to deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones when I
still had a pair of Quad II Classic monoblocks. But,
with a low-powered SET, I'm more interested in things
like Audio Note AN-Es or those Yamamoto Sound Crafts
with the Altec-Lansing drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll attack
everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc trying to play the class
card.

And again, it's pretty ironic to note that you call me trailer trash,
when the equity in my house over the last three years would buy yours
outright. So, again, if I'm trailer trash, you're living out of a
shopping cart.

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:06:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current system, is it manditory
that one listen to every $5 AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a worthwhile
upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know how it sounds?

Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a Volvo.

Boon

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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:11:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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It's also quite obvious that doing time-synched,
level-matched, bias-controlled listening tests is way
beyond your mental and technical faculties.

Watch it. Arnie's on his "mental midget" thing again.

Well, when in the land of mental midgets, what's a boy
to do?

You're in your sixties, Arny.

Wrong again.

You're not a boy.

I'm not morbidly obese like you are, Marc.

You've
wasted years and years of your life on the Internet.

So you say.

Your behavior has been ignoble at best, and a complete
and utter waste at worst.

It's true I've wasted far too much time with the likes of you, Marc.

But at least you get to go out once a year and hike.

More than that, and obviously lots and lots compared to you.

I'm sure that lets you rationalize everything you've done the
other 51 weeks of the year.

Other than a couple of stupid-sounding web pages and senseless posts on RAO,
where's the evidence of your activities for the past year, Marc?

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I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current
system, is it manditory that one listen to every $5
AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a
worthwhile upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know
how it sounds?

Who cares?

Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a
Volvo.

Stuart and I should leave you just simmer in your own sweat.

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different
recordings, and with different associated equipment,
right?

How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely
turntable on eBay and bought it.

After asking me my opinion.

It seems to work a whole lot better than you have claimed
that it
can.

Yes, I'm sure you're happy with it, since it spins
around, and when you put the needle on the record, music
comes out.

Vinyl sounds pretty grim compared to modern formats, and
the emperor's turntable can't fix a format that has gone about 50
years since the last time they tweaked it seriously.

Wow, sounds like you're really not happy with that table
after all.

It's those nasty grooved things that have to be played by dragging a rock
over them.

Perhaps you should have listened to me more closely!

It would have been like trying to track Brownian Motion.

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On 9 Oct 2006 18:58:00 -0700, wrote:


It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll
attack everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

Boon's equating costly with "good" noted.

Nope. I'm just pointing out that on RAO, when it comes
to the objectivist vs, subjectivists debates, it always
turns out to be, underneath it all, a battle between the
haves and the have-nots.

With Boonie representing the have-maximum-BS and have-not-brains.

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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
, Mr Fox
wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave
reviews. So who is planning to buy? Anybdy actually
receive a pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid
and well-built, mostly. This does translate to
deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones
when I still had a pair of Quad II Classic
monoblocks. But, with a low-powered SET, I'm more
interested in things like Audio Note AN-Es or those
Yamamoto Sound Crafts with the Altec-Lansing drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll attack
everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc
trying to play the class card.

And again, it's pretty ironic to note that you call me
trailer trash, when the equity in my house over the last
three years would buy yours outright.

Easy to say, hard to prove. BTW is that equity your's or the bank's?

LOL!

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different recordings, and with
different associated equipment, right?

How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely turntable on eBay and
bought it. It seems to work a whole lot better than you have claimed that
it can.

A likely turntabe = "cheap"

Vinyl sounds pretty grim compared to modern formats, and the emperor's
turntable can't fix a format that has gone about 50 years since the last
time they tweaked it seriously.

No expectation bias here, of course.

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different
recordings, and with different associated equipment,
right?
How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely
turntable on eBay and bought it. It seems to work a
whole lot better than you have claimed that it can.

A likely turntabe = "cheap"

Note that Harry is trying to sound like he knows something when in fact he's
completely ignorant of the details.

Here's a friendly tip Harry - google on Grado and Rega.

Vinyl sounds pretty grim compared to modern formats,
and the emperor's turntable can't fix a format that has
gone about 50 years since the last time they tweaked it
seriously.

No expectation bias here, of course.

Are you saying that the LP format isn't about 50 years old?

Are you saying that it doesn't have relatively poor specs for dynamic range
and frequency response 20-20K?

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I stated that there are some things that I don't need to listen to to
know that they're going to sound lousy. I used a Dell laptop as an
example of this.

And, as a computer geek, you found it impossible to believe that
someone wouldn't automatically know about the sound quality of a
certain brand of laptop. And yes, I was laughing at you for thinking
that.

No, I assumed that anyone would know that computer laptops sound
lousy. I mentioned Dell because they own a large share of that market
and most people would recognize the name.

As for being a computer geek, I'm proud of that. I've put a lot of
effort into it, and it's how I support my family.

http://www.youmightbe.com/pages/computergeek.html

I'm sorry...in all that rubbish I didn't see any sort of apology for
calling me a liar when I said I didn't know what a Dell notebook
was...bitch.

Boon

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I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current
system, is it manditory that one listen to every $5
AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a
worthwhile upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know
how it sounds?

Who cares?

Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a
Volvo.

Stuart and I should leave you just simmer in your own sweat.

Don't make up something that isn't there. I'm not simmering...I'm
basking in the fact that during your vacation, you couldn't stop
thinking about me, and you couldn't wait to get back to confront me.
I, however, and by your own admission, didn't even notice you were
gone.

I wonder what Susan would think if she knew you spent your vacation
planning cockamamie strategems on RAO for when you got back. Or do you
two take separate vacations by now?

Boon

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:06:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current
system, is it manditory that one listen to every $5
AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a
worthwhile upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know
how it sounds?

Who cares?

Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a
Volvo.

Stuart and I should leave you just simmer in your own
sweat.

Don't make up something that isn't there. I'm not
simmering...I'm basking in the fact that during your
vacation, you couldn't stop thinking about me, and you
couldn't wait to get back to confront me.

Say what?

I, however, and by your own admission, didn't even notice you were gone.

What's unclear about "who cares?"

I wonder what Susan would think if she knew you spent
your vacation planning cockamamie strategems on RAO for
when you got back.

Never happened.

Or do you two take separate vacations by now?

Not hardly.

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different
recordings, and with different associated equipment,
right?
How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely
turntable on eBay and bought it. It seems to work a
whole lot better than you have claimed that it can.

A likely turntabe = "cheap"

Note that Harry is trying to sound like he knows something when in fact
he's completely ignorant of the details.

Here's a friendly tip Harry - google on Grado and Rega.


I don't have to google to know what Rega and Grado's ranges are. Saying
Grado and Rega is like saying GM and Ford....meaningless unless you know the
specific model. But I do seem to recall you saying you found a Rega P2 on
eBay and bought it because it was selling at a low price...and then
complaining that something was wrong with the arm. You have talked about
Grado Silver, Stanton (model?) and Shure V-15 (model?) at times, so I
assumer these are your cartridges. Perhaps you can correct me if I am
wrong.

This is a modest system at best, Arny, but I understand your main purpose is
to transcribe your records to digital and not to "listen to them" in the
future. That's fine. But beware your tendency to make sweeping
pronouncements about vinyl based on this system.....that's like standing on
the sidewalk beside the Empiere State Building, looking up, and saying "the
Empire State Building has no top....I can't see it".

snip remainder, irrelevant to the point

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different
recordings, and with different associated equipment,
right?
How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely
turntable on eBay and bought it. It seems to work a
whole lot better than you have claimed that it can.


snip, irrelevant to below

Vinyl sounds pretty grim compared to modern formats,
and the emperor's turntable can't fix a format that has
gone about 50 years since the last time they tweaked it
seriously.

No expectation bias here, of course.

Are you saying that the LP format isn't about 50 years old?

Are you saying that it doesn't have relatively poor specs for dynamic
range and frequency response 20-20K?


No, I'm saying "vinyl sounds pretty grim" is a value judgement, in your case
based on inexpensive gear and with a predetermination against vinyl. Hardly
an "objective" opinion.

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Tell us again how you audition turntables, Boonie.

I listen to them.

On different days, in different rooms, with different
recordings, and with different associated equipment,
right?
How do you do it? Oh yes, you e-mail
me under a different name, asked for my opinion, buy a
different turntable on e-bay, and then blame me on
RAO.

You're delusional, Marc. I simply found a likely
turntable on eBay and bought it. It seems to work a
whole lot better than you have claimed that it can.

A likely turntabe = "cheap"

Note that Harry is trying to sound like he knows
something when in fact he's completely ignorant of the
details. Here's a friendly tip Harry - google on Grado and Rega.


I don't have to google to know what Rega and Grado's
ranges are. Saying Grado and Rega is like saying GM and
Ford....meaningless unless you know the specific model. But I do seem to
recall you saying you found a Rega P2 on
eBay and bought it because it was selling at a low
price.

No, I bought it because it looked like a pretty good deal.

..and then complaining that something was wrong
with the arm.

Huh?

Nahh, it was the RAO trolls who said that there was something wrong with the
arm.

You have talked about Grado Silver,
Stanton (model?) and Shure V-15 (model?) at times, so I
assumer these are your cartridges. Perhaps you can
correct me if I am wrong.

Close on the cartridges.

This is a modest system at best, Arny,

Snob.

but I understand
your main purpose is to transcribe your records to
digital and not to "listen to them" in the future.

Are you saying that listening to digital transcriptions isn't "listening to
them"?

That's fine. But beware your tendency to make sweeping
pronouncements about vinyl based on this
system....

It's like Harry thinks that this is the only LP playback system I've ever
listened to.

.that's like standing on the sidewalk beside
the Empiere State Building, looking up, and saying "the
Empire State Building has no top....I can't see it".

Yup, Harry thinks this is the only vinyl system I've ever listened to in my
life.

snip remainder, irrelevant to the point

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 11:05:30 -0700, wrote:


Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 15:00:14 -0700, wrote:

.

So no, I'm really not an expert on laptop sound. For all I know, there
might be a laptop that sounds really, really good.

Do you understand now, moron?

Yes, I understand you don't have any clue what you're talking about.
:-)

Finally you get it! When it comes to the sound quality of laptops, I
indeed don't know what I'm talking about!


I meant in general. :-)

No, no...don't backpedal now! You've gotten your first thing right
here! There's hope!

Boon

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On 9 Oct 2006 18:58:00 -0700, wrote:


It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll
attack everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

Boon's equating costly with "good" noted.

Nope. I'm just pointing out that on RAO, when it comes
to the objectivist vs, subjectivists debates, it always
turns out to be, underneath it all, a battle between the
haves and the have-nots.

With Boonie representing the have-maximum-BS and have-not-brains.

You know, Arny, I offered my services before to help you with your
material. As long as the check clears, I won't tell a soul here.

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 11:11:29 -0700, wrote:


Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 18:58:00 -0700, wrote:


It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never lived until you heard
a Yammakwaski Nightengale power amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp"
schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's "Waaahhhh...I can't afford
anything good, so I'll attack everyone who has better taste than me!"
schtick.

Boon's equating costly with "good" noted.

Nope. I'm just pointing out that on RAO, when it comes to the
objectivist vs, subjectivists debates, it always turns out to be,
underneath it all, a battle between the haves and the have-nots.

And again you come down to the "mine is bigger than yours" thing.

BTW, just because you have 3 cars on blocks in front of your trailor
while your neighbors all have two does not mean you are wealthy. :-)

Don't those record albums take up too much space in your trailor? I
bet you could fit in a lot more music on CD.

I'm not sure what a "trailor" is, unless it's British slang for a
$700,000 house. But I'm afraid this is where I have to write you off,
Stuart. I've told you time and time again that making up stuff out of
thin air and trying to pass it off as an argument is the mark of a
truly unintelligent man. And, as would be expected, you've ignored
this over and over and still do exactly that, thinking that you're
somehow getting the better of me. I'm not sure who you're trying to
impress, since middle school boys don't tend to hang out on RAO, but by
now everyone else worthwhile has written you off, too. I simply won't
waste time educating the pathologically dumb.

I will give you a word of advice, however, especially in light of the
fact that you claim to have a wife and children. It's obvious you
haven't taken the time to learn more about your philosophical
bedfellow, Arny Krueger. You remind me of Bill Watkins, an old audio
guy who used hang out here and mix it up with me. He started glomming
onto Arny, defending him, parroting him like you do now. Finally, I
sent him the links to all of the posts where Arny pulled perhaps his
biggest blunder on RAO, an unfortunate backfire that resulted with Arny
actually getting in trouble for storing child pornography on his hard
drive. He tried to blame it on John Atkinson at one point.

Once Bill took the time to read all of the details, he disappeared,
never to be seen on RAO again. I hope, for the sake of decency, it was
shame that caused him to leave. Arny will twist and spin and say it
was because I upset Bill by showing him such disgusting behavior. But
you just have to take the time to do the research on Google, and it's
all there.

Objectivist vs. subjectivist debate aside, you're lying down with dogs
here when you associate with Arny. Think about your family and ask
yourself if they would approve.

Boon

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Arny Krueger wrote:
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MiNe 109 wrote:
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, Mr Fox
wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave reviews.
So who is planning to buy? Anybdy actually receive a
pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid and
well-built, mostly. This does translate to deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones when I
still had a pair of Quad II Classic monoblocks. But,
with a low-powered SET, I'm more interested in things
like Audio Note AN-Es or those Yamamoto Sound Crafts
with the Altec-Lansing drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll attack
everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc trying to play the class
card.

Shopping cart! Shopping cart!

LOL!

Boon

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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
, Mr Fox
wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave
reviews. So who is planning to buy? Anybdy actually
receive a pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid
and well-built, mostly. This does translate to
deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones
when I still had a pair of Quad II Classic
monoblocks. But, with a low-powered SET, I'm more
interested in things like Audio Note AN-Es or those
Yamamoto Sound Crafts with the Altec-Lansing drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll attack
everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc
trying to play the class card.

And again, it's pretty ironic to note that you call me
trailer trash, when the equity in my house over the last
three years would buy yours outright.

Easy to say, hard to prove. BTW is that equity your's or the bank's?

LOL!

Do you know what "equity" means, Arny? And do you know it's "yours"
and not "your's"?

Boon

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 11:41:47 -0700, wrote:


Stuart Krivis wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:06:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current system, is it manditory
that one listen to every $5 AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a worthwhile
upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know how it sounds?

I have no idea how it sounds, but I know it isn't worth listening to.

I guess you missed that the first time.


Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a Volvo.

Based on my logic, I know I don't need to listen to a banana or a
Volvo to know they're not worth listening to.

You should use that as your sig line. It makes about as much sense as
anything else you've said.

Boon

[paul packer]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:52:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Here's a friendly tip Harry

Stop lying, Arnold. None of your tips are friendly.

[paul packer]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:56:48 -0400, Stuart Krivis
wrote:


BTW, just because you have 3 cars on blocks in front of your trailor
while your neighbors all have two does not mean you are wealthy. :-)


LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 11:41:47 -0700, wrote:


Stuart Krivis wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:06:40 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I just won't know until I listen to it.

If you're looking for an upgrade to your current
system, is it manditory that one listen to every $5
AM/FM radio as a possible upgrade?

Of course not!

You're just talking trash.



Given his current system, a $5 AM/FM radio might be a
worthwhile upgrade. :-)

You mean the system you haven't heard but already know
how it sounds?

I have no idea how it sounds, but I know it isn't worth
listening to.

I guess you missed that the first time.


Based on your logic, a banana might sound better than a
Volvo.

Based on my logic, I know I don't need to listen to a
banana or a Volvo to know they're not worth listening to.

You should use that as your sig line. It makes about as
much sense as anything else you've said.

Which is, to most people, pretty good sense.

My mental image of Marc Phillips hooking a banana up to his much-vaunted
high end audio system of the week to hear what the banana sounds like is
pretty funny! Of course it is the image of Marc that provides most of the
humor, a morbidly fat man in sweats trying to do anything useful, without
covering everything in his trailer with his smelly prespiration.

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:52:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Here's a friendly tip Harry

Stop lying, Arnold. None of your tips are friendly.

And lame gratuitous insults and lies like this fully justify how I treat RAO
trolls like you, Paul.

In fact I've provided more good technical help on RAO than any living human.
I've even shifted into friendly mode to help many of the RAO trolls in their
times of need. Needless to say, they turned around and bit the hand that
fed. Moral of story is that you don't pet poisonous snakes. If they stay
away, good for them. If they get in your way, off 'em early and often.

[Arny Krueger]

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Stuart Krivis wrote:
On 9 Oct 2006 18:58:00 -0700, wrote:


It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll
attack everyone who has better taste than me!"
schtick.

Boon's equating costly with "good" noted.

Nope. I'm just pointing out that on RAO, when it comes
to the objectivist vs, subjectivists debates, it always
turns out to be, underneath it all, a battle between the
haves and the have-nots.

With Boonie representing the have-maximum-BS and
have-not-brains.

You know, Arny, I offered my services before to help you
with your material. As long as the check clears, I won't
tell a soul here.

Try selling it to Atkinson for more than half a free lunch 5 years ago. He's
more in your market than I am.

Remember Boonie-Boy, Lat year I hit Atkinson up for an all expenses-paid
airplane trip to NYC with two nights in a first-rate hotel, not half of a
stinkin' lunch you had to get to at your own expense. That pretty well puts
a fair price on our relative abilties to deliver relevant audio information.

[Arny Krueger]

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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
, Mr
Fox wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave
reviews. So who is planning to buy? Anybdy
actually receive a pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the
brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid
and well-built, mostly. This does translate to
deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones
when I still had a pair of Quad II Classic
monoblocks. But, with a low-powered SET, I'm more
interested in things like Audio Note AN-Es or those
Yamamoto Sound Crafts with the Altec-Lansing
drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll
attack everyone who has better taste than me!"
schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc
trying to play the class card.

And again, it's pretty ironic to note that you call me
trailer trash, when the equity in my house over the last
three years would buy yours outright.

Easy to say, hard to prove. BTW is that equity your's or
the bank's?

LOL!

Do you know what "equity" means, Arny? And do you know
it's "yours" and not "your's"?


IOW, the equity in Boonie's house belongs to the bank, not Boonie-boy. He
no doubt took the equity out to support his stereo habit.

Thanks for the true confession, Marc.

[Arny Krueger]

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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
, Mr Fox
wrote:

The new Quad electrostatics are getting rave
reviews. So who is planning to buy? Anybdy actually
receive a pair already?

I'm not sure they're much different from the 'old'
Quads! but all I know is what I read in the brochure.

The structure around the drivers is much more solid
and well-built, mostly. This does translate to
deeper bass.

I came close to buying a pair of the smaller ones
when I still had a pair of Quad II Classic
monoblocks. But, with a low-powered SET, I'm more
interested in things like Audio Note AN-Es or those
Yamamoto Sound Crafts with the Altec-Lansing drivers.

It's the patented, day-glo Marc Phillips' "You never
lived until you heard a Yammakwaski Nightengale power
amp driven by a Kruzenjammer power amp" schtick.

It's the patented, olive-drab Arny Krueger's
"Waaahhhh...I can't afford anything good, so I'll attack
everyone who has better taste than me!" schtick.

It's pretty ironic watching trailer trash like Marc
trying to play the class card.

Shopping cart! Shopping cart!

LOL!

I guess that Boonie-Boy is looking for a stray shopping cart because the
stores in his 'hood keep them locked up in a cage so that the locals can't
steal them. Either that, or he really needs the deposit money back that they
demand before they let him use one.

[paul packer]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:17:39 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:52:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Here's a friendly tip Harry

Stop lying, Arnold. None of your tips are friendly.

And lame gratuitous insults and lies like this fully justify how I treat RAO
trolls like you, Paul.

In fact I've provided more good technical help on RAO than any living human.
I've even shifted into friendly mode to help many of the RAO trolls in their
times of need. Needless to say, they turned around and bit the hand that
fed. Moral of story is that you don't pet poisonous snakes. If they stay
away, good for them. If they get in your way, off 'em early and often.


Hmmm...here's a familiar message from Arny: I did the right thing by
everyone else, I was a saint, and they shat on me. I'm the only decent
guy in the universe, all others are here merely to pretend to be my
friends and then turn on me, unless I get in first.

Sorry to tell you this, Arny, but that's paranoia. Get help
immediately.

[paul packer]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:23:31 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Remember Boonie-Boy, Lat year I hit Atkinson up for an all expenses-paid
airplane trip to NYC with two nights in a first-rate hotel, not half of a
stinkin' lunch you had to get to at your own expense. That pretty well puts
a fair price on our relative abilties to deliver relevant audio information.

Were there mushrooms growing in the hills where you took your
vacation, Arnie? I hope you checked what kind they were before woofing
them down.

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:17:39 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:52:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Here's a friendly tip Harry

Stop lying, Arnold. None of your tips are friendly.

And lame gratuitous insults and lies like this fully
justify how I treat RAO trolls like you, Paul.

In fact I've provided more good technical help on RAO
than any living human. I've even shifted into friendly
mode to help many of the RAO trolls in their times of
need. Needless to say, they turned around and bit the
hand that fed. Moral of story is that you don't pet
poisonous snakes. If they stay away, good for them. If
they get in your way, off 'em early and often.


Hmmm...here's a familiar message from Arny: I did the
right thing by everyone else, I was a saint, and they
shat on me.

I've never been a saint, Paul. I've had a sharp tongue for my whole life.

I'm the only decent guy in the universe, all
others are here merely to pretend to be my friends and
then turn on me, unless I get in first.

Sounds like something that Paul or Jenn would say. Especially Jenn. In fact,
I think Jenn just recently posted something like this, didn't she?

Sorry to tell you this, Arny, but that's paranoia.

Good diagnosis of you and Jenn, Paul.

Get help immediately.

Good advice for you and Jenn to follow, I guess.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:17:39 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:52:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Here's a friendly tip Harry

Stop lying, Arnold. None of your tips are friendly.

And lame gratuitous insults and lies like this fully
justify how I treat RAO trolls like you, Paul.

In fact I've provided more good technical help on RAO
than any living human. I've even shifted into friendly
mode to help many of the RAO trolls in their times of
need. Needless to say, they turned around and bit the
hand that fed. Moral of story is that you don't pet
poisonous snakes. If they stay away, good for them. If
they get in your way, off 'em early and often.


Hmmm...here's a familiar message from Arny: I did the
right thing by everyone else, I was a saint, and they
shat on me.

I've never been a saint, Paul. I've had a sharp tongue for my whole life.

I'm the only decent guy in the universe, all
others are here merely to pretend to be my friends and
then turn on me, unless I get in first.

Sounds like something that Paul or Jenn would say. Especially Jenn. In fact,
I think Jenn just recently posted something like this, didn't she?

No. But you're "free" to point out such a statement by me.


Sorry to tell you this, Arny, but that's paranoia.

Good diagnosis of you and Jenn, Paul.

In what way do I show paranoia, Arny?


Get help immediately.

Good advice for you and Jenn to follow, I guess.