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Patrick Dunford

Every sound system manual I have ever seen recommends strongly you have
dimmers on a separate phase from the sound system.

The problem with this is, most dimmer packs are three phase.

Short of not using 1/3 of your channels, what can be done about the

noise
problems?


The manuals are talking about studio installs, whereas dimmer packs are
"luggable" in that context.



** The manuals are talking about sound systems - not studios of any kind.


When I was doing theatre, they'd bring in 200+ channels of dimmers.
These would be wired direct very close to the service entrance with the
ground lead doubled, making a very robust earth connection.

The sound equipment would then be effectively "separate" . . a much
smaller load usually a service panel or two removed from the lighting.


** AS recommended in the manuals Patrick is reading.


The "dimmer problem" is most often encountered in a residential or
commercial space that's retrofitted into a studio.



** Is anyone so dumb they have triac dimmed lights installed in a
recording studio ????


Residential dimmers have to meet emmission standards sufficient for TV

viewing,


** AM and short wave bands are covered too - just not the AUDIO band !!



If the power distribution is well-planned and the dimmers are of better
quality (variacs, hopefully), this is less of a problem.



** Variac and variable inductance dimming went out decades ago.

For critical applications, where no audible buzz can be accepted there are
modern "Sine Wave" dimmers - using either mosfets ot IGBTs to "chop" the AC
at supersonic high frequency and scale it to any desired value.


http://www.stld.org.uk/php/index.php...&contentid=176




.............. Phil




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Phil Allison
 
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"U-CDK_CHARLES
Patrick Dunford

Every sound system manual I have ever seen recommends strongly you have
dimmers on a separate phase from the sound system.

The problem with this is, most dimmer packs are three phase.

Short of not using 1/3 of your channels, what can be done about the

noise
problems?


The manuals are talking about studio installs, whereas dimmer packs are
"luggable" in that context.



** The manuals are talking about sound systems - not studios of any kind.


When I was doing theatre, they'd bring in 200+ channels of dimmers.
These would be wired direct very close to the service entrance with the
ground lead doubled, making a very robust earth connection.

The sound equipment would then be effectively "separate" . . a much
smaller load usually a service panel or two removed from the lighting.


** AS recommended in the manuals Patrick is reading.


The "dimmer problem" is most often encountered in a residential or
commercial space that's retrofitted into a studio.



** Is anyone so dumb they have triac dimmed lights installed in a
recording studio ????


Residential dimmers have to meet emmission standards sufficient for TV

viewing,


** AM and short wave bands are covered too - just not the AUDIO band !!



If the power distribution is well-planned and the dimmers are of better
quality (variacs, hopefully), this is less of a problem.



** Variac and variable inductance dimming went out decades ago.

For critical applications, where no audible buzz can be accepted there are
modern "Sine Wave" dimmers - using either mosfets ot IGBTs to "chop" the AC
at supersonic high frequency and scale it to any desired value.


http://www.stld.org.uk/php/index.php...&contentid=176




.............. Phil




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"mr c deckard"

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

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** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
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** I wait with interest.



.............. Phil



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"mr c deckard"

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

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** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
they own this NG ??


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** I wait with interest.



.............. Phil



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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"mr c deckard"

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--


** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
they own this NG ??


---------------------------------------------------------------------------





----------------------------------------------------------------------------



** I wait with interest.



............. Phil


You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject. Why not answer his question?
It should be easy for a genius like you, Phil.


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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"mr c deckard"

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--


** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
they own this NG ??


---------------------------------------------------------------------------





----------------------------------------------------------------------------



** I wait with interest.



............. Phil


You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject. Why not answer his question?
It should be easy for a genius like you, Phil.
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"ThePaulThomas" = tenthwit
"Phil Allison"
"mr c deckard" = beneath contempt.

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act

like
they own this NG ??


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--


** I wait with interest.


You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject.




** I did NOT not change the subject - asshole.

1. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM.

2. NOBODY owns a public forum.


Too bad does not suit mental retards like you and Dickhard.


Why not answer his question?




** There was no question - just the dumb Dickhard's insults over gain.




............. Phil








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"ThePaulThomas" = tenthwit
"Phil Allison"
"mr c deckard" = beneath contempt.

phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.



** Hey, to that Dickhard ****head !!


In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act

like
they own this NG ??


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--


** I wait with interest.


You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject.




** I did NOT not change the subject - asshole.

1. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM.

2. NOBODY owns a public forum.


Too bad does not suit mental retards like you and Dickhard.


Why not answer his question?




** There was no question - just the dumb Dickhard's insults over gain.




............. Phil








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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:06:46 -0400, Roger W. Norman wrote
(in article ):

The problem will go away when the real problem goes away, Ty. That's not a
threat, just a statement of how a lot of us obviously feel. I've been
trying to tone down quite a bit, but it doesn't mean I'm not ****ed about
what's going on and how it's effecting us as Americans. How you view this
newsgroup is obviously different than the way I view it, but at 53 next
week, I don't believe you can offer me any platitudes like "you can't
believe any politician" etc., when the world is going to hell around us.

If anyone isn't scared right now and thinks that the only reason to talk
amongst our peers is to discuss audio and nothing else isn't paying
attention. This isn't just ****, it's ****. Don't get me wrong, Ty. I
agree with you on the level that I can, but there's also a level that says I
can't control some outbursts because these are things that need to be said.
Doing it someplace where I'd have to spend 5 years to gain credibility
enough to say them just isn't in the cards. That I may not have credibility
with you notwithstanding.

And if you recall, I've been just as outspoken about music sharing and a
number of other subjects that adversely effect our ability to do business.
And right now I'd BET that most of us are suffering from a drop in business
and it's pretty easy to see why that drop in business has come about.

OR, I could be wrong. It's been known to happen.


Well here's some good news then. My business has been slowly increasing for
the last 9 months. Most of it from recording audio -- music and other.

I did get e a nice bump from being in the John Waters movie, but the ripple
effect of that is yet to be determined. I have been booked without auditions
since then, but that may be coincidence.

Regards,

Ty Ford





-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:06:46 -0400, Roger W. Norman wrote
(in article ):

The problem will go away when the real problem goes away, Ty. That's not a
threat, just a statement of how a lot of us obviously feel. I've been
trying to tone down quite a bit, but it doesn't mean I'm not ****ed about
what's going on and how it's effecting us as Americans. How you view this
newsgroup is obviously different than the way I view it, but at 53 next
week, I don't believe you can offer me any platitudes like "you can't
believe any politician" etc., when the world is going to hell around us.

If anyone isn't scared right now and thinks that the only reason to talk
amongst our peers is to discuss audio and nothing else isn't paying
attention. This isn't just ****, it's ****. Don't get me wrong, Ty. I
agree with you on the level that I can, but there's also a level that says I
can't control some outbursts because these are things that need to be said.
Doing it someplace where I'd have to spend 5 years to gain credibility
enough to say them just isn't in the cards. That I may not have credibility
with you notwithstanding.

And if you recall, I've been just as outspoken about music sharing and a
number of other subjects that adversely effect our ability to do business.
And right now I'd BET that most of us are suffering from a drop in business
and it's pretty easy to see why that drop in business has come about.

OR, I could be wrong. It's been known to happen.


Well here's some good news then. My business has been slowly increasing for
the last 9 months. Most of it from recording audio -- music and other.

I did get e a nice bump from being in the John Waters movie, but the ripple
effect of that is yet to be determined. I have been booked without auditions
since then, but that may be coincidence.

Regards,

Ty Ford





-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com



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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:23:54 -0400, DrBoom wrote
(in article ) :

Ty Ford wrote in message
...
Is it just me or does anyone else noticed how much nicer rap is after
having
killfiled the philbot. What a relief to get rid of that nasty, fuzzy logic.


It's probably not just you, but I for one disagree somewhat.

Within his areas of expertise (i.e. excluding loudspeakers, etc.), Phil is as
knowledgeable as anyone here. I know I've learned from him.

For years folks justified the behavior of a certain Boston retailer because
he posted good information. Phil is ten times as technically informed (again,
within his limits) as the self-proclaimed Bad Boy From MA, but the consensus
seems to support the BBFMA's less informed, albeit more entertaining,

schtick.

Some of you should go look in the archives and watch yourselves defending
similar behavior.

Yeah, Phil lacks talent in the insult department. Still, I haven't seen him
physically threaten anyone ... which puts him one up on a few "respected"
old timers.

Ty, give the whining a ****ing rest. You've made your point, ad nauseum.
Then again, it's a (somewhat) free country and an unmoderated newsgroup.
Knock yourself out.

Phil, stick to what you know. Dealing out effective insults isn't one of

those
things. Or see above freedom. I'm sure the same liberties obtain in Oz.

-DrBoom


I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford




-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:23:54 -0400, DrBoom wrote
(in article ) :

Ty Ford wrote in message
...
Is it just me or does anyone else noticed how much nicer rap is after
having
killfiled the philbot. What a relief to get rid of that nasty, fuzzy logic.


It's probably not just you, but I for one disagree somewhat.

Within his areas of expertise (i.e. excluding loudspeakers, etc.), Phil is as
knowledgeable as anyone here. I know I've learned from him.

For years folks justified the behavior of a certain Boston retailer because
he posted good information. Phil is ten times as technically informed (again,
within his limits) as the self-proclaimed Bad Boy From MA, but the consensus
seems to support the BBFMA's less informed, albeit more entertaining,

schtick.

Some of you should go look in the archives and watch yourselves defending
similar behavior.

Yeah, Phil lacks talent in the insult department. Still, I haven't seen him
physically threaten anyone ... which puts him one up on a few "respected"
old timers.

Ty, give the whining a ****ing rest. You've made your point, ad nauseum.
Then again, it's a (somewhat) free country and an unmoderated newsgroup.
Knock yourself out.

Phil, stick to what you know. Dealing out effective insults isn't one of

those
things. Or see above freedom. I'm sure the same liberties obtain in Oz.

-DrBoom


I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford




-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford



** ROTFLMAO !!!

A prize charlatan will not take advice from someone he suspect might be
just like him !!!





............ Phil



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"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford



** ROTFLMAO !!!

A prize charlatan will not take advice from someone he suspect might be
just like him !!!





............ Phil



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Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.

Tom




"Fuel" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:27:49 GMT, "Tommy B"
scribbled:

Well Phil, I heard the donkeys don't say that about you!
Now why don't you be a good boy, go have a spot of tea, and chill the

****
out.


Hey are you replying to me or the original poster?


Tom


"Fuel" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:01:48 +1000, "Phil Allison"
scribbled:


"Scott Dorsey" = criminal LIAR

richard

The issue will be with earth loops, they exagerate the noise pickup

from
dimmers.

Solve the earth loop, solve the buzz generally.

For the most part this is true, but keeping the trash out of the

power
line
as much as possible with careful power supply to the dimmers is

still a
good
idea.



** How would a posturing, ****ing, know nothing, imbecile like

Dorsey
know ?????



Because you're going to encounter equipment with internal ground

loops
.....


** NO - YOU UTTER ****WIT the ****ing hum loops are EXTERNAL.


There are donkeys with higher IQs that this Dorsey bloody idiot !!!!


For ****s sakes, go back under the bridge where you belong.







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Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.

Tom




"Fuel" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:27:49 GMT, "Tommy B"
scribbled:

Well Phil, I heard the donkeys don't say that about you!
Now why don't you be a good boy, go have a spot of tea, and chill the

****
out.


Hey are you replying to me or the original poster?


Tom


"Fuel" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:01:48 +1000, "Phil Allison"
scribbled:


"Scott Dorsey" = criminal LIAR

richard

The issue will be with earth loops, they exagerate the noise pickup

from
dimmers.

Solve the earth loop, solve the buzz generally.

For the most part this is true, but keeping the trash out of the

power
line
as much as possible with careful power supply to the dimmers is

still a
good
idea.



** How would a posturing, ****ing, know nothing, imbecile like

Dorsey
know ?????



Because you're going to encounter equipment with internal ground

loops
.....


** NO - YOU UTTER ****WIT the ****ing hum loops are EXTERNAL.


There are donkeys with higher IQs that this Dorsey bloody idiot !!!!


For ****s sakes, go back under the bridge where you belong.





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"Tommy B"
Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.




** Dorsey had proved here, over and over, that he has not the slightest
****ing interest in the truth. Like Mike Rivers, he mindlessly regurgitates
his wildly misunderstood bits of other people's ideas and data. When I
challenge him on only the MOST glaring of his errors his answers are worse
than pathetic.

The dude is NOT an electronics engineer.

The dude is NOT even an electronics tech.

Then, unable to respond to the complaints and just like Rivers, he does
what any CHARLATAN does and attacks the messenger with libel and abuse.

This is then the ***CUE** to all the brain dead zombies here to
**MINDLESSLY** follow suit.

I see you yet are another one.

And a stinking top poster as well.

Go drop dead.



........... Phil






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"Tommy B"
Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.




** Dorsey had proved here, over and over, that he has not the slightest
****ing interest in the truth. Like Mike Rivers, he mindlessly regurgitates
his wildly misunderstood bits of other people's ideas and data. When I
challenge him on only the MOST glaring of his errors his answers are worse
than pathetic.

The dude is NOT an electronics engineer.

The dude is NOT even an electronics tech.

Then, unable to respond to the complaints and just like Rivers, he does
what any CHARLATAN does and attacks the messenger with libel and abuse.

This is then the ***CUE** to all the brain dead zombies here to
**MINDLESSLY** follow suit.

I see you yet are another one.

And a stinking top poster as well.

Go drop dead.



........... Phil






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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject.




** I did NOT not change the subject - asshole.

1. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM.

2. NOBODY owns a public forum.


Too bad does not suit mental retards like you and Dickhard.


Why not answer his question?




** There was no question - just the dumb Dickhard's insults over gain.




............ Phil


The question and comment you have not answered was quoted in my
original post. I will repeat it again:

"phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing".

So let's hear your answer to the question, Phil. Why are you still
here?
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
You didn't answer his question ("phil, why are you still here? you
gain nothing (no one here is as knowledgeable as you), and you give
nothing"), you only changed the subject.




** I did NOT not change the subject - asshole.

1. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM.

2. NOBODY owns a public forum.


Too bad does not suit mental retards like you and Dickhard.


Why not answer his question?




** There was no question - just the dumb Dickhard's insults over gain.




............ Phil


The question and comment you have not answered was quoted in my
original post. I will repeat it again:

"phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing".

So let's hear your answer to the question, Phil. Why are you still
here?


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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford


Heh, thanks for the morning laugh. I feel the same way about advice from
random recordists.

** ROTFLMAO !!!

A prize charlatan will not take advice from someone he suspect might be
just like him !!!

........... Phil


"... just like him"? I'm a lot younger than Ty, and better looking. He has a nicer
mic collection, though.

-DrBoom
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford


Heh, thanks for the morning laugh. I feel the same way about advice from
random recordists.

** ROTFLMAO !!!

A prize charlatan will not take advice from someone he suspect might be
just like him !!!

........... Phil


"... just like him"? I'm a lot younger than Ty, and better looking. He has a nicer
mic collection, though.

-DrBoom
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Phil, how do you consistently miss the point?
Even if you're right, you're wrong.
If you're going to insult someone use a little wit, if I'm not asking too
much, and stop all the yelling!
So if I was to say to you,
"Live Long And Don't Prosper".
What TV, then movie series and which character from that series ALMOST said
that.
See, I insulted you and then made a game out of it.
Try to do something creative and not yell!

Tom




"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Tommy B"
Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.




** Dorsey had proved here, over and over, that he has not the slightest
****ing interest in the truth. Like Mike Rivers, he mindlessly

regurgitates
his wildly misunderstood bits of other people's ideas and data. When I
challenge him on only the MOST glaring of his errors his answers are worse
than pathetic.

The dude is NOT an electronics engineer.

The dude is NOT even an electronics tech.

Then, unable to respond to the complaints and just like Rivers, he does
what any CHARLATAN does and attacks the messenger with libel and abuse.

This is then the ***CUE** to all the brain dead zombies here to
**MINDLESSLY** follow suit.

I see you yet are another one.

And a stinking top poster as well.

Go drop dead.



.......... Phil








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Phil, how do you consistently miss the point?
Even if you're right, you're wrong.
If you're going to insult someone use a little wit, if I'm not asking too
much, and stop all the yelling!
So if I was to say to you,
"Live Long And Don't Prosper".
What TV, then movie series and which character from that series ALMOST said
that.
See, I insulted you and then made a game out of it.
Try to do something creative and not yell!

Tom




"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Tommy B"
Is your name Phil?
Did post the obsene thread, "Scott Dorsey is a pig" !
If so, then yeah.
If not, then no.




** Dorsey had proved here, over and over, that he has not the slightest
****ing interest in the truth. Like Mike Rivers, he mindlessly

regurgitates
his wildly misunderstood bits of other people's ideas and data. When I
challenge him on only the MOST glaring of his errors his answers are worse
than pathetic.

The dude is NOT an electronics engineer.

The dude is NOT even an electronics tech.

Then, unable to respond to the complaints and just like Rivers, he does
what any CHARLATAN does and attacks the messenger with libel and abuse.

This is then the ***CUE** to all the brain dead zombies here to
**MINDLESSLY** follow suit.

I see you yet are another one.

And a stinking top poster as well.

Go drop dead.



.......... Phil








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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"mr c deckard"






phil, if you *really* wait for my answers with "interest", then you
must first answer the question i asked you *first* (note that i'm not
telling you to leave, i'm trying to find out why you stay when
everyone really, really wants you to):

-----------
phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.

absolutely NO ONE wants you here. everyone here is in a group
throwing rocks at you, yelling at you to GO AWAY. it's rather
pathetic, and i'm kinda getting embarrassed for you.
------------


if you honestly answer that question (it actually is quite an honest
question), i will honestly answer the two that you included below.




it just boggles my mind, phil, that someone would stick around and
bother in a forum (of idiots, parrots, and, as we've come to find out,
problematic names) where they are *actively NOT wanted*, and they
contribute and gain NOTHING.

in a way, phil, it challenges my model of behaviourial theory, so i'm
trying to figure out if i need to update it or not.


your friend,
chris "dickhard" deckard
saint louis mo








In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

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** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
they own this NG ??


---------------------------------------------------------------------------





----------------------------------------------------------------------------



** I wait with interest.



............. Phil



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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
"mr c deckard"






phil, if you *really* wait for my answers with "interest", then you
must first answer the question i asked you *first* (note that i'm not
telling you to leave, i'm trying to find out why you stay when
everyone really, really wants you to):

-----------
phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing.

absolutely NO ONE wants you here. everyone here is in a group
throwing rocks at you, yelling at you to GO AWAY. it's rather
pathetic, and i'm kinda getting embarrassed for you.
------------


if you honestly answer that question (it actually is quite an honest
question), i will honestly answer the two that you included below.




it just boggles my mind, phil, that someone would stick around and
bother in a forum (of idiots, parrots, and, as we've come to find out,
problematic names) where they are *actively NOT wanted*, and they
contribute and gain NOTHING.

in a way, phil, it challenges my model of behaviourial theory, so i'm
trying to figure out if i need to update it or not.


your friend,
chris "dickhard" deckard
saint louis mo








In the space below explain what you think a public forum is ???

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** In this next space explain why you think anyone is entitled to act like
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** I wait with interest.



............. Phil

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ThePaulThomas wrote:

The question and comment you have not answered was quoted in my
original post. I will repeat it again:

"phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing".

So let's hear your answer to the question, Phil. Why are you still
here?





Like the Triumph, the insult comic dog on Conan O'Brien, his job is to
poop on you.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


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ThePaulThomas wrote:

The question and comment you have not answered was quoted in my
original post. I will repeat it again:

"phil, why are you still here? you gain nothing (no one here is as
knowledgeable as you), and you give nothing".

So let's hear your answer to the question, Phil. Why are you still
here?





Like the Triumph, the insult comic dog on Conan O'Brien, his job is to
poop on you.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:51:31 -0400, DrBoom wrote
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford


Heh, thanks for the morning laugh. I feel the same way about advice from
random recordists.


Me too.

I'm a lot younger than Ty, and better looking. He has a
nicer
mic collection, though.

-DrBoom


Chicks dig it.

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:51:31 -0400, DrBoom wrote
(in article ) :

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Ty Ford"

I never take advice from anonymous doctors.

Ty Ford


Heh, thanks for the morning laugh. I feel the same way about advice from
random recordists.


Me too.

I'm a lot younger than Ty, and better looking. He has a
nicer
mic collection, though.

-DrBoom


Chicks dig it.

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com



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........... Phil


I'm wondering what kind of person feels so powerless in their own life that
they turn to a place like usenet for some measure of power. You differ from
'normal' trolls in that you appear to be a real person and you only use one
address to post from. So your motivation isn't to destroy the group, as some
kids get their jollies doing over in alt. You seem to try and help some of
the newer members of the forum while attempting, as best as you can, to
insult the 'die-hards'. This is a classic usenet 'divide and conquer'
strategy, but unsuccessful for you as your posting style is uncharismatic in
all ways.

I'm really interested in usenet culture, and I'm writing a dissertation, so
I have a few questions.

1) Are you married? Have you ever been married?
2) What do you do for a living? What is your job title?
3) How much money do you make?
4) Do you come from a single parent household?
5) Do you have fond memories of childhood?
6) Are you affiliated with a political party? If so, what?
7) Are you affiliatd with a religious group, if so, which?
8) Have you ever wounded an animal? If so, why?
9) Do you watch TV? What are your favorite shows?
10) How much sugar do you consume in a day? Caffeine? Alcohol? Canabis?
Cocaine? Heroin?
11) Have you ever been incarcerated? If so, why?
12) Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?
13) Which testacle hangs lower, the right or the left?

Thanks Phil, I know you're the helpful type so I'll just thank you in
advance for your speedy answering.

jb


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........... Phil


I'm wondering what kind of person feels so powerless in their own life that
they turn to a place like usenet for some measure of power. You differ from
'normal' trolls in that you appear to be a real person and you only use one
address to post from. So your motivation isn't to destroy the group, as some
kids get their jollies doing over in alt. You seem to try and help some of
the newer members of the forum while attempting, as best as you can, to
insult the 'die-hards'. This is a classic usenet 'divide and conquer'
strategy, but unsuccessful for you as your posting style is uncharismatic in
all ways.

I'm really interested in usenet culture, and I'm writing a dissertation, so
I have a few questions.

1) Are you married? Have you ever been married?
2) What do you do for a living? What is your job title?
3) How much money do you make?
4) Do you come from a single parent household?
5) Do you have fond memories of childhood?
6) Are you affiliated with a political party? If so, what?
7) Are you affiliatd with a religious group, if so, which?
8) Have you ever wounded an animal? If so, why?
9) Do you watch TV? What are your favorite shows?
10) How much sugar do you consume in a day? Caffeine? Alcohol? Canabis?
Cocaine? Heroin?
11) Have you ever been incarcerated? If so, why?
12) Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?
13) Which testacle hangs lower, the right or the left?

Thanks Phil, I know you're the helpful type so I'll just thank you in
advance for your speedy answering.

jb


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"ThePaulThomas"
"Phil Allison"


"phil, why are you still here?



** A. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM

Try learning to read - ****head.




.............. Phil




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"ThePaulThomas"
"Phil Allison"


"phil, why are you still here?



** A. Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM

Try learning to read - ****head.




.............. Phil


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"mr c dickard"



phil, if you *really* wait for my answers with "interest", then you
must first answer the question i asked you *first*



** I have.

" Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM. "


Now, answer my two genuine questions - asshole .





.............. Phil


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"mr c dickard"



phil, if you *really* wait for my answers with "interest", then you
must first answer the question i asked you *first*



** I have.

" Anyone is entitled to contribute to a PUBLIC FORUM. "


Now, answer my two genuine questions - asshole .





.............. Phil


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"reddred"


** Mr R Dred, your last frontal lobotomy was not successful - have
another.




............ Phil


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"reddred"


** Mr R Dred, your last frontal lobotomy was not successful - have
another.




............ Phil


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