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Wouldn't work for Richie Hayward. He has some of the most convoluted arm
movements I've ever seen and still be in time. He'd be smashing overheads
with every third stroke.

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The best choice for $300 is a matched pair of Oktava MK012's

You might look for a pair of Audio Technica Pro 37R's about $99.00
retail

Or better yet, get out a measuring tape and make both OH mics
equidistant from the snare. Locks it right in.

The story goes John Bonham wanted the over heads three drum sticks high
off the snare.



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Check with them and find out. Or try FilamentAudio.com and see what they
offer. Both have been quite decent about matched set testing in their own
facilities, and both generally are more than willing to talk when you call.
But my guess is the Octava bodies will have to be replaced, too, or, more
correctly, they'll have to be sent back for testing WITH the capsules. The
bodies are milled, but there are differences in material density, etc, that
can change even two matched capsules.

Oh well, they seem to sell just the matched capsule sets for $178, so go for
it, sans testing with new bodies. Apparently the milling and materials are
now good enough to negate what I said above.

You can find this setup here
http://sound-room.com/customer/home.php?cat=3.

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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Jonny Durango wrote:

The best choice for $300 is a matched pair of Oktava MK012's ....if yer
lucky guitar center still has some.



Guitar Center never DID have matched pairs of MK012s. They claimed to,
but they didn't.
--scott


Unfortunately I couldn't afford almost twice as much $ for the soundroom
MK012's so I picked up a GC pair. They came with supposed frequency
response graphs that are close but not exact copies....I doubt very much
the validity of these documents but the mics sound great regardless.

If I ever wanted to "upgrade" to the SR sound, could I just order
matched capsules from them, or will I have to replace the bodies also?

Jonny Durango



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Jonny Durango wrote:

Unfortunately I couldn't afford almost twice as much $ for the soundroom
MK012's so I picked up a GC pair. They came with supposed frequency
response graphs that are close but not exact copies....I doubt very much
the validity of these documents but the mics sound great regardless.


People are too hung up on the matched pair thing. It's a huge deal for
distant field miking but most folks today aren't doing that.

If I ever wanted to "upgrade" to the SR sound, could I just order
matched capsules from them, or will I have to replace the bodies also?


Depends. The problem with the GC mikes is that sometimes when they ran
out of parts, they'd just make substitutions on the line. So I have seen
012s whose leak resistors were 680M, and some which were 100M, depending
on what they had around. If you have two that actually have the same
parts inside and the FETs have similar gain, you're good to go.
--scott

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Interesting Dave?
Have you ever inserted a stereo linked compressor with super fast
attack and release times keyed from the snare to remove some of the
snare sound in the O-heads?
Kevin

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Interesting Dave?
Have you ever inserted a stereo linked compressor with super fast
attack and release times keyed from the snare to remove some of the
snare sound in the O-heads?
Kevin


Interesting indeed... No, I haven't. I use OHs for cymbals only, roughly
95% of the time. In my 30 years of doing this, I've rarely had a problem
with too much snare in the OHs or enough snare there to buggar up the
actual snare source track(s) due to phase correlation issues. A few times,
yes, but not all that often.

Might try it someday though... Most of my sessions don't allow the time
frame for too much experimentation of this type. Maybe that's why I'm
still a pauper after all that time. ;-)

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I picked up a pair of the C430 mics...found em used for nearly nothing.
They'd definitely only work for a "cymbals only" sort of thing as they
absolutely stink for a true representation of just about anything that
has a full frequency range.
I bought them initially thinking that they'd be nice ones to use to
record our rehearsals.....man, they're turds for that.
later,
m

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Richie Hayward, amazing drummer, I could not take my eyes off him...

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