In article ,
wrote:

On 2004-11-14 said:
writes: Hey, you know that trick! I
give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each day while
flipping a load of wash. 17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed.
The ones I buy seem to have cracked the secret of the car battery
warranty. As soon as the warranty period is up, you can count on
them going within a couple of months.

HEy that anode rod that's supposed to do the electrolysis bit to save
the tank must actually work with the water you have. BAck where I
used to live you were lucky to get ten years on the tanks. THat
stuff was nasty. GO down to take a morning shower and see bright
orange liquid coming out of the shower head.

And that is why you should do the monthly purge. Or at least every six
months. It's not that difficult to drain a gallon out of the thing into
a bucket.

You can buy heaters with a stainless steel lining, too, rather than the
cheap glass lining. They last a lot longer, but cost a lot more. I
just went from a well to city water and I'm seeing a lot less crap coming
out when I do the monthly purge, but I'm waiting to see how that affects
the total life.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

in article znr1100528229k@trad, Mike Rivers at wrote on
11/15/04 6:59 AM:

I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g

I live in a place with amazingly high mineral content in the water. It
tastes like a mountain stream, but wreaks havoc with homes like mine which
do not have water softeners.

My gas water heater pops and chunks when it's heating. This is the layer of
mineral deposits breaking away from the bottom and roiling up to the
surface, banging on the inside of the tank. I asked our county gas people
if there was a known fix for this. "Get a new water heater" was the reply.
Apparently there is some way to drain and dig out the crud, but it's really
difficult, time consuming, and messy, and not that effective. A vinegar
wash doesn't get it out - just breaks it up in smaller pieces.

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Carlos

in article znr1100528229k@trad, Mike Rivers at wrote on
11/15/04 6:59 AM:

I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g

I live in a place with amazingly high mineral content in the water. It
tastes like a mountain stream, but wreaks havoc with homes like mine which
do not have water softeners.

My gas water heater pops and chunks when it's heating. This is the layer of
mineral deposits breaking away from the bottom and roiling up to the
surface, banging on the inside of the tank. I asked our county gas people
if there was a known fix for this. "Get a new water heater" was the reply.
Apparently there is some way to drain and dig out the crud, but it's really
difficult, time consuming, and messy, and not that effective. A vinegar
wash doesn't get it out - just breaks it up in smaller pieces.

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Carlos

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message ...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might help.

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message ...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might help.

In article ,
"L David Matheny" wrote:

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might help.



It might keep the water heater from suffering arthritis pain, though.

-Jay
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x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x
x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x
x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

In article ,
"L David Matheny" wrote:

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might help.



It might keep the water heater from suffering arthritis pain, though.

-Jay
--
x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x
x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x
x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x
x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

"Jay Kadis" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"L David Matheny" wrote:

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the
water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might
help.

It might keep the water heater from suffering arthritis pain, though.

And give you better imaging.

Peace,
Paul

"Jay Kadis" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"L David Matheny" wrote:

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the
water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might
help.

It might keep the water heater from suffering arthritis pain, though.

And give you better imaging.

Peace,
Paul

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100528229k@trad...

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time.
This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years
or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



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and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100528229k@trad...

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time.
This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years
or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"L David Matheny" wrote in message
...
"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the
water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might
help.

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"L David Matheny" wrote in message
...
"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
snip
There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the
water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

This has got to be totally bogus. A conventional water softener might
help.

in article , Roger W. Norman at
wrote on 11/15/04 10:56 AM:

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

Yup, it sounded too good to be true. The Monster Cable of the home
appliance world. This device is small - a simple electromagnet unit smaller
than a CD and about 1" thick.

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Carlos

in article , Roger W. Norman at
wrote on 11/15/04 10:56 AM:

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

Yup, it sounded too good to be true. The Monster Cable of the home
appliance world. This device is small - a simple electromagnet unit smaller
than a CD and about 1" thick.

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Carlos

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

That only happens if you sleep with your head pointing east or west. North
or south, and you're OK.

-John O

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

That only happens if you sleep with your head pointing east or west. North
or south, and you're OK.

-John O

wrote in message
.. .
GO down to take a morning shower and see bright
orange liquid coming out of the shower head.



now when I take morning showers i'm going to be checking for orange stuff
:)

--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/

wrote in message
.. .
GO down to take a morning shower and see bright
orange liquid coming out of the shower head.



now when I take morning showers i'm going to be checking for orange stuff
:)

--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/

In article writes:

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Sounds like something that we need for our studio cables. G

The magnetic part rang a bell though. In the manual for my water
heater (it's a Sears, so there's a real manual with a real parts list)
it says: "In some water areas, you may not be able to drain all
sediment deposits by simply draining the tank. In those cases, Mag
Erad (part no. 23600) can be used to help remove the sediment
deposits."

I looked up that part number on the Sears web site, which it
acknowledges as "Mag-Erad" but it say it's unavailable. A Google
search shows it to be a citric acid based cleaner available at
plumbing supply stores. So I wasn't too far off joking about
cleaning the water heater like a coffee pot.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Sounds like something that we need for our studio cables. G

The magnetic part rang a bell though. In the manual for my water
heater (it's a Sears, so there's a real manual with a real parts list)
it says: "In some water areas, you may not be able to drain all
sediment deposits by simply draining the tank. In those cases, Mag
Erad (part no. 23600) can be used to help remove the sediment
deposits."

I looked up that part number on the Sears web site, which it
acknowledges as "Mag-Erad" but it say it's unavailable. A Google
search shows it to be a citric acid based cleaner available at
plumbing supply stores. So I wasn't too far off joking about
cleaning the water heater like a coffee pot.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Roger W. Norman" wrote:

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.


What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I suspect our UK water heaters are a bit different.


Graham

"Roger W. Norman" wrote:

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.


What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I suspect our UK water heaters are a bit different.


Graham

Only if you're sitting on a highly electro-magnetized toilet! g But then,
in the words of John Mellencamp, it "Hurts So Good"! g

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
in article , Roger W. Norman at
wrote on 11/15/04 10:56 AM:

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to
the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You
can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

Yup, it sounded too good to be true. The Monster Cable of the home
appliance world. This device is small - a simple electromagnet unit
smaller
than a CD and about 1" thick.

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Carlos

Only if you're sitting on a highly electro-magnetized toilet! g But then,
in the words of John Mellencamp, it "Hurts So Good"! g

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Carlos Alden" wrote in message
...
in article , Roger W. Norman at
wrote on 11/15/04 10:56 AM:

It is bogus. What it does is act as an electrical anode ending black
pipe/copper pipe electrical differences that end up as corrosion. Same
thing happens when a lot of different types of metal are connected to
the
same thing. Doesn't soften the water, just disperses the charge. You
can
find the same thing on gas engines in salt water for outboard boats.

Yup, it sounded too good to be true. The Monster Cable of the home
appliance world. This device is small - a simple electromagnet unit
smaller
than a CD and about 1" thick.

I'm surprised they didn't also claim that drinking magnetized water would
also leach out cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Carlos

Look on the leading black pipe. Black pipe (galvanized steel with another
component) ultimately works like a di-electric conductor when in contact
with copper, hence a "device" that bleeds electricity off the pipes and to
ground. I have one that preceeds my water heater, which is prior to my
boiler, and it needs either cleaning or changing every few years. And it's
because there's electricity generated by the difference in the metals. It's
not just in this circumstance that one finds a necessity for an anode. Like
I said, it's required on any outboard or inboard/outboard boat motor in salt
water, too.

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

"Roger W. Norman" wrote:

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would
make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or
gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but
today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping
for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using
optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked
up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year
and
clean as a whistle.


What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I suspect our UK water heaters are a bit different.


Graham

Look on the leading black pipe. Black pipe (galvanized steel with another
component) ultimately works like a di-electric conductor when in contact
with copper, hence a "device" that bleeds electricity off the pipes and to
ground. I have one that preceeds my water heater, which is prior to my
boiler, and it needs either cleaning or changing every few years. And it's
because there's electricity generated by the difference in the metals. It's
not just in this circumstance that one finds a necessity for an anode. Like
I said, it's required on any outboard or inboard/outboard boat motor in salt
water, too.

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

"Roger W. Norman" wrote:

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would
make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or
gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but
today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping
for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using
optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked
up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year
and
clean as a whistle.


What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I suspect our UK water heaters are a bit different.


Graham

Roger W. Norman wrote:

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?



That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

Roger W. Norman wrote:

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?



That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

At and extremely slow rate. The high rate batteries use acid to accelerate
the ability to draw power, like car batteries with 270 amps of cranking
power. 270 amps is far in excess of what's necessary for a house's normal
consumption. Obviously other factors come into play, and I wasn't really
trying to get into this line of reasoning.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"S O'Neill" wrote in message
...
Roger W. Norman wrote:

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces
of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a
method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe
with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?



That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

At and extremely slow rate. The high rate batteries use acid to accelerate
the ability to draw power, like car batteries with 270 amps of cranking
power. 270 amps is far in excess of what's necessary for a house's normal
consumption. Obviously other factors come into play, and I wasn't really
trying to get into this line of reasoning.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"S O'Neill" wrote in message
...
Roger W. Norman wrote:

Makes one wonder if, since there's enough difference between two pieces
of
metal to generate an electrical difference, then perhaps we have a
method of
free power right there, although it would be exceedingly small. Maybe
with
a million miles of copper and some black pipe here and there we could
generate enough electricity for a house?



That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

In article writes:

What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I wondered the same thing too, but I looked in the manual for my gas
water heater and sure enough, it has one. Obviously not
active-electrical since there's no electrical connection at all to
this water heater.


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In article writes:

What's the anode connection on a gas water heater ?

I wondered the same thing too, but I looked in the manual for my gas
water heater and sure enough, it has one. Obviously not
active-electrical since there's no electrical connection at all to
this water heater.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

If one of those metals is the 'anode rod' then that's a good thing. It
prevents the pipe or the tank from being consumed. That's what anode
plates on the bottom of a boat hull do - keep the electrolytic action
away from metal that, when enough was removed, would would make the
boat leak.


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lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
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In article writes:

That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.

If one of those metals is the 'anode rod' then that's a good thing. It
prevents the pipe or the tank from being consumed. That's what anode
plates on the bottom of a boat hull do - keep the electrolytic action
away from metal that, when enough was removed, would would make the
boat leak.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Bert Aerts wrote:

hey all, i'm looking for a good tool to record on location. i need
only one (stereo) input, and i wanna have the quality of digital sound
of 44.1 khz, 16 bit or more...
also it would be cool if i can connect condensator mics, so phantom
power would be cool...
any advice?

iRiver iHP-120 (now know as H120).

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx

Core Sound PDAudio

http://www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Bert Aerts wrote:

hey all, i'm looking for a good tool to record on location. i need
only one (stereo) input, and i wanna have the quality of digital sound
of 44.1 khz, 16 bit or more...
also it would be cool if i can connect condensator mics, so phantom
power would be cool...
any advice?

iRiver iHP-120 (now know as H120).

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx

Core Sound PDAudio

http://www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html

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Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Logan Shaw wrote:

Haven't used it, but Marantz PMD670 is one to consider:

We posted a comparison of recorders including the PMD670 to our Web
site:

http://www.core-sound.com/comparison...-670-fr-2.html

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Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Logan Shaw wrote:

Haven't used it, but Marantz PMD670 is one to consider:

We posted a comparison of recorders including the PMD670 to our Web
site:

http://www.core-sound.com/comparison...-670-fr-2.html

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Mike Rivers wrote:

In article writes:


That's how a battery works, and it consumes one of the metals.


If one of those metals is the 'anode rod' then that's a good thing. It
prevents the pipe or the tank from being consumed. That's what anode
plates on the bottom of a boat hull do - keep the electrolytic action
away from metal that, when enough was removed, would would make the
boat leak.

Yoobetchya, but he was going to power a house with it.