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Dennis Herrick wrote:
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All the electrolytic capacitors. Change them out. All of them. Don't
waste your time looking for bad ones, just change them all out whether

they
are bad or not.


Is this something I can do? Sounds like it takes soldering skill!!! I've
taken trumpets apart with blowtorches, but this sounds a little more
delicate!


Yes. If you aren't comfortable with an iron (and these boards are very
large but have germanium transistors that will fail if overheated only
a little bit) and a solder sucker, take it to a tech.
--scott
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I've taken trumpets apart with blowtorches, but this
sounds a little more delicate!


Depends on your prospective. I could take a trumpet apart with
a blowtorch -- that's the easy part. I don't know that I could put it
back together so that a trumpet player could play it though.


There's a classic Charles Rodriguez cartoon showing a service tech fixing a
Scott tuner using a hand-held blowtorch.

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darnit! just when i start thinking i know .1%, i get bumped back down
to .09%. i didn't know there was anything other than a tone arm
turntable.
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Conclusion and a question

At present I decided not to mess with the Sony turntable (might try stuff
with it when I get more time). I found a Sota Sapphire III for a real good
price and bought that with no arm, but the armboard cut for SME so my old
3009 should just drop in.

Now to the Cartridge.... The Shure V15 III that I have needs a stylus, which
is available but expensive (I was wrong about getting it cheap before). I
wrote to Shure and the Phono Project Manger answered and said that the most
comparable to my old one is the M97XE, and that this might actually be an
improvement over my old V15

So the M97XE is around 99, as is the AT440, as is the replacement stylus for
the old V15. My usage is mostly to take my classical records and transfer to
CD.

Suggestions? Gol with one of those, or spring for the V15xMR? I've seen
those on ebay as cheap as $239....



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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0600, Dennis Herrick
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So the M97XE is around 99, as is the AT440, as is the replacement stylus for
the old V15. My usage is mostly to take my classical records and transfer to
CD.

Suggestions? Gol with one of those, or spring for the V15xMR? I've seen
those on ebay as cheap as $239....


I would go for V15VxMR, if your tone arm can handle it. The SME does,
but it seems to me that it might ask for oil damping a bit; if there's
an occassional disturbance in the middle bass somewhere around note
"d" or lower, then it could be arm resonance since my AT31e MC does
the same. I fixed this by oiling the tone arm bearings with a tiny
amount of fine oil and leaving a blob of oil at the lower gimbal
bearing.
The replacement stylus for a V15VxMR should be abt. $150 or so, just
guessing... but with a 1 g tracking force and with a good handling so
as to prevent damages to the cantilever, plus at good cleaned and
washed LPs, it could last really for years to come and be gentle
enough to the records. The reproduction is, to say at the least,
correct with a good depth and stage. As a bonus, the N78S additional
stylus fits into the V15 (as well as in th most other Shures btw.) so
you can spin up a clean 78 RPM record and enjoy some of the old
meisters. 78 records thus reproduced sound better than one could
think, the state of record and its cleanness permitting.

Edi Zubovic, Crikvenica, Croatia
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Dennis Herrick wrote:

At present I decided not to mess with the Sony turntable (might try stuff
with it when I get more time). I found a Sota Sapphire III for a real good
price and bought that with no arm, but the armboard cut for SME so my old
3009 should just drop in.


That is a nice unit, but you should find out what mods have been applied
to it before buying. There are dozens of different configurations all with
the same name.

So the M97XE is around 99, as is the AT440, as is the replacement stylus for
the old V15. My usage is mostly to take my classical records and transfer to
CD.


They sound different. The AT probably tracks better but has a more etched
sounding top end. You might also like the Grados, which have a very lush
midrange, although they don't track anywhere near the way a fineline stylus
will.

A few years back I would have recommended the Blue Point, but prices on
those have gone through the roof. They went from being a great budget
cartridge to a very overpriced item.

Suggestions? Gol with one of those, or spring for the V15xMR? I've seen
those on ebay as cheap as $239....


I would not buy any cartridge used, because you don't know what has been
done with it.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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At present I decided not to mess with the Sony turntable (might try stuff
with it when I get more time). I found a Sota Sapphire III for a real good
price and bought that with no arm, but the armboard cut for SME so my old
3009 should just drop in.


That is a nice unit, but you should find out what mods have been applied
to it before buying. There are dozens of different configurations all with
the same name.


What type of mods are there? I'd assume that any mod would still allow my
SME arm to work and still do fine for me?

Suggestions? Gol with one of those, or spring for the V15xMR? I've seen
those on ebay as cheap as $239....


I would not buy any cartridge used, because you don't know what has been
done with it.


Advertised as NEW for $239, but I've generally thought, especially on ebay,
that if something is too good to be true, it probably IS.

Thanks for your comments

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Dennis Herrick wrote:
At present I decided not to mess with the Sony turntable (might try stuff
with it when I get more time). I found a Sota Sapphire III for a real good
price and bought that with no arm, but the armboard cut for SME so my old
3009 should just drop in.


That is a nice unit, but you should find out what mods have been applied
to it before buying. There are dozens of different configurations all with
the same name.


What type of mods are there? I'd assume that any mod would still allow my
SME arm to work and still do fine for me?


Dozens and dozens. Things that damp the plinth, things that make the
platter heavier, things that stabilize the motor. There are a dozen
different kinds of center bearings you can get, I think.

The SME arm will work fine on all of them, but how much the table is
worth depends on what configuration it is.

Suggestions? Gol with one of those, or spring for the V15xMR? I've seen
those on ebay as cheap as $239....


I would not buy any cartridge used, because you don't know what has been
done with it.


Advertised as NEW for $239, but I've generally thought, especially on ebay,
that if something is too good to be true, it probably IS.


Could be fine, but I think those aren't that much more than $239 from
the Record Doctor.

For $299 you can get an Audio-Technica OC-9, which is pretty much the
bottom of the line entry-level moving coil cartridge. And if you are
looking in that price range and you have a preamp that can handle it,
going the MC route is worth it.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Scott Dorsey wrote:

For $299 you can get an Audio-Technica OC-9, which is pretty much the
bottom of the line entry-level moving coil cartridge. And if you are
looking in that price range and you have a preamp that can handle it,
going the MC route is worth it.
--scott


Or you can go with a high output moving coil. I have been using the
Denon DL160:
http://www.adelcom.net/DenonCart1.htm

I have used ATs, the Blue Point, Grado, and many others over the years
and like this for the price, sounds pretty balanced to me.

-Rob

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