[Gary Eickmeier]

I have this nice new computer, Dell XPS-8700 with Intel i7 processor, 12 G
RAM, and NVidea graphics card. I think the sound card is a built-in but it
has all 5.1 channels, and all channels work in the Windows setup screen. You
can test each speaker and the test tone comes out of the appropriate one. So
all 6 outputs are operational.

But go into Adobe Audition 5.5 and try to do surround sound, and I can't
even map the sound to the appropriate channels. It behaves as if there were
only the two stereo channels. Instructions not real clear, playing around
not very productive. Either there is some revelation I have yet to discover,
or I need a new, better sound card.

Anyone? Has anyone out there done 5.1 surround like this yet?

Gary Eickmeier

[Ron C[_2_]]

On 4/1/2016 11:26 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
I have this nice new computer, Dell XPS-8700 with Intel i7 processor, 12 G
RAM, and NVidea graphics card. I think the sound card is a built-in but it
has all 5.1 channels, and all channels work in the Windows setup screen. You
can test each speaker and the test tone comes out of the appropriate one. So
all 6 outputs are operational.

But go into Adobe Audition 5.5 and try to do surround sound, and I can't
even map the sound to the appropriate channels. It behaves as if there were
only the two stereo channels. Instructions not real clear, playing around
not very productive. Either there is some revelation I have yet to discover,
or I need a new, better sound card.

Anyone? Has anyone out there done 5.1 surround like this yet?

Gary Eickmeier


I don't have Audition 5.5 and thus can't verify, but a quick google
search turned up:
~~
Here are the details. Audition 4/CS5.5 requires that you set up your
session initially as a 5.1 session. You can also choose stereo or mono,
and once that choice is made, you can't "expand" a stereo or mono
session to 5.1. (As a result, any session I think I might want for 5.1
later, but not right away, I set up as 5.1 anyway, then only mix to
front L/R initially.) If you add busses to your mix, you need to choose
carefully whether they need to be stereo or 5.1-capable, depending on
the content. On each of your tracks you'll now see a multichannel
panner that looks like a binaural dummy head. Double-click to expand,
and automate your panning to your heart's content. It's an amazingly
flexible panner but works differently than Premiere's or that of older
versions of Audition, which should be an advantage in most instances.
~~
[YMMV]
==
Later...
Ron Capik
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[Gary Eickmeier]

"Ron C" wrote in message
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On 4/1/2016 11:26 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
I have this nice new computer, Dell XPS-8700 with Intel i7 processor, 12
G
RAM, and NVidea graphics card. I think the sound card is a built-in but
it
has all 5.1 channels, and all channels work in the Windows setup screen.
You
can test each speaker and the test tone comes out of the appropriate one.
So
all 6 outputs are operational.

But go into Adobe Audition 5.5 and try to do surround sound, and I can't
even map the sound to the appropriate channels. It behaves as if there
were
only the two stereo channels. Instructions not real clear, playing around
not very productive. Either there is some revelation I have yet to
discover,
or I need a new, better sound card.

Anyone? Has anyone out there done 5.1 surround like this yet?

Gary Eickmeier


I don't have Audition 5.5 and thus can't verify, but a quick google
search turned up:
~~
Here are the details. Audition 4/CS5.5 requires that you set up your
session initially as a 5.1 session. You can also choose stereo or mono,
and once that choice is made, you can't "expand" a stereo or mono session
to 5.1. (As a result, any session I think I might want for 5.1 later, but
not right away, I set up as 5.1 anyway, then only mix to front L/R
initially.) If you add busses to your mix, you need to choose carefully
whether they need to be stereo or 5.1-capable, depending on the content.
On each of your tracks you'll now see a multichannel panner that looks
like a binaural dummy head. Double-click to expand, and automate your
panning to your heart's content. It's an amazingly flexible panner but
works differently than Premiere's or that of older versions of Audition,
which should be an advantage in most instances.
~~
[YMMV]
==
Later...
Ron Capik

Well that is helpful indeed. I think I did open as a 5.1 project, since it
was recorded for that purpose. I did see the choice for each track of mono
stereo or 5.1. But when I put 5.1, all I got was a blank track. I will try
opening a whole new project as 5.1 and go from there. Still not sure about
my hardware, but if I at least do the software right, I will know if my
computer can handle it.

Gary

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 4/2/2016 12:15 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
I think I did open as a 5.1 project, since it
was recorded for that purpose. I did see the choice for each track of mono
stereo or 5.1. But when I put 5.1, all I got was a blank track. I will try
opening a whole new project as 5.1 and go from there. Still not sure about
my hardware, but if I at least do the software right, I will know if my
computer can handle it.

Your sound card needs to have six outputs in order to be able to mix in
5.1. Does it have six output jacks (or three stereo mini phone jacks)?
You may also need an ASIO driver in order for Audition to see all of the
outputs.

If you have stereo files that you want to try to remix to surround, you
should be able to open a new surround project, then import the stereo
files from your original project into the front left and right tracks of
the new surround project.

--
For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com

[Gary Eickmeier]

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
...
On 4/2/2016 12:15 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
I think I did open as a 5.1 project, since it
was recorded for that purpose. I did see the choice for each track of
mono
stereo or 5.1. But when I put 5.1, all I got was a blank track. I will
try
opening a whole new project as 5.1 and go from there. Still not sure
about
my hardware, but if I at least do the software right, I will know if my
computer can handle it.

Your sound card needs to have six outputs in order to be able to mix in
5.1. Does it have six output jacks (or three stereo mini phone jacks)? You
may also need an ASIO driver in order for Audition to see all of the
outputs.

If you have stereo files that you want to try to remix to surround, you
should be able to open a new surround project, then import the stereo
files from your original project into the front left and right tracks of
the new surround project.

Yes, I have three stereo jacks for output, and it can play a test tone out
of each speaker. But when I try to assign tracks to channels, it tells me
that there is no input device for 5.1, only for stereo. It shows the NVidia
card and the Realtek card, but if I select NVidia it just doesn't work.
Select Realtek, and I can at least work in stereo. I ran a Belarc on the
computer, and all it will tell me is that I have an NVidia card and a
Realtek card, not what their capabilities are or whether they have ASIO
capability. Right now I just have MME capability.

Not sure I know what I am talking about - all of the terminology and
settings. I just have this feeling that if I went out and bought a good
sound card life would come together for my 5.1 capabilities.

Gary

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 4/2/2016 2:17 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

Yes, I have three stereo jacks for output, and it can play a test tone out
of each speaker. But when I try to assign tracks to channels, it tells me
that there is no input device for 5.1, only for stereo.

I'd hazard a guess your sound card(s) is one that will handle 5.1 output
for the benefit of game players and DVD watchers, but only has a
2-channel (stereo) input.

Do I remember correctly that you have a Zoom H6? Or is that someone
else? If you do, try using that as the interface for your computer.
You'll need to go to the Zoom web site and download the multitrack
driver (might as well get the ASIO driver, too) and install it. I'll bet
that will show up as 6 inputs for recording. Two are the stereo mics and
the other four are the input jacks.



--
For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com

[geoff]

On 3/04/2016 6:17 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:


Yes, I have three stereo jacks for output, and it can play a test tone out
of each speaker. But when I try to assign tracks to channels, it tells me
that there is no input device for 5.1, only for stereo. It shows the NVidia
card and the Realtek card, but if I select NVidia it just doesn't work.
Select Realtek, and I can at least work in stereo. I ran a Belarc on the
computer, and all it will tell me is that I have an NVidia card and a
Realtek card, not what their capabilities are or whether they have ASIO
capability. Right now I just have MME capability.

Not sure I know what I am talking about - all of the terminology and
settings. I just have this feeling that if I went out and bought a good
sound card life would come together for my 5.1 capabilities.

5.1 (=6) outputs does not imply you should have 5.1 INPUTs as well.

5.1 mixes are generally created from tracks recorded in mono or
stereo..... though there is no reason you couldn't actually record with
6 microphones in a a configuration resembling a 5.1 sound-stage.

But not generally done that way, for quote a few reasons.

geoff

[Gary Eickmeier]

The Soundblaster people sent me a response that I just need to update a
driver for Windows 10, which I had already downloaded from one of their
sites, and that did it. I finally got the screen that lets me do the channel
mapping. So I opened up a 5.1 project, put my surround tracks in it, and
panned the tracks around into a 5.1 mix. I then output that to a 5 channel
mixdown and had a file that shows all 5 channels, did the fade in and fade
out, and now I am trying to figure out how to output that to a DD DVD. I
also have the ability to do DTS if I want. I know I have those CODECs on my
computer but just how to use them is next on the agenda.

Thanks for all the posts and help.

Gary Eickmeier

[[email protected]]

Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....

[John Williamson]

On 08/04/2016 11:46, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....

He says, posting using Google Groups, the worst usenet interface known
to man.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[[email protected]]

John Williamson wrote: "- show quoted text -
He says, posting using Google Groups, the worst usenet interface known
to man.
- show quoted text -
"

Go CHANGE YOUR DIAPER ya crybaby!
The message got sent, that's all that matters!

Sheez, you sound like the Boeing fan who
got booked on an Airbus one time out of
ten and had a hissy fit about it...

Back.

to.

A U D I O.

[geoff]

On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....


I can stand 'them'. Just a simp

geoff

[[email protected]]

I told you it was a driver issue on April 3

[geoff]

On 9/04/2016 12:23 AM, geoff wrote:
On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....


I can stand 'them'. Just a simp

geoff



oooops

.....pmle driver update as somebody suggested yonks ago. Can be the
situation with hardware and software in any operating system, and easy
to remedy.

geoff

[Trevor]

On 9/04/2016 9:19 AM, geoff wrote:
On 9/04/2016 12:23 AM, geoff wrote:
On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "

Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....

I can stand 'them'.

Me too, Apples treatment of their loyal customers is what I can't stand.
I can't think of any other company who can treat their customers like
such mugs, and have them line up again as soon as the next model goes on
sale.


Just a simple driver update as somebody suggested yonks ago. Can be the
situation with hardware and software in any operating system, and easy
to remedy.

Only *IF* new correctly working drivers are available, something far
from common in many cases. :-(

Trevor.

[[email protected]]

geoff wrote: "pmle"

????

What planet am I on?

[geoff]

On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....



Yet another thing that you apparently don't comprehend. A device driver
for a particular device is not actually a part of Windows, and is not
produced by Microsoft.

A hardware vendor company can cock up (and hopefully fix) a Win driver
just as they can a driver for any other OS.

geoff

[[email protected]]

geoff wrote: "On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
- show quoted text -
Yet another thing that you apparently don't comprehend. A device driver
for a particular device is not actually a part of Windows, and is not
produced by Microsoft.

A hardware vendor company can cock up (and hopefully fix) a Win driver
just as they can a driver for any other OS.

geoff "

Thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately I
have an I.T.(Information Tech) degree, so
I didn't know any of that until you explained
it.

[None]

thekkkkkhhhmaaaah @ shortbus . dumb**** . org wrote in message
news:25f5b0a9-0290-44e0-9a36-
Unfortunately I have an I.T.(Information Tech) degree

Yeah, that is unfortunate, especially since you can't even add 1+1,
and you can't even read numbers (as you have boasted). Was that the
two-year degree that took you six years to finish? FCKWAFA.

[geoff]

On 11/04/2016 12:44 AM, wrote:
geoff wrote: "On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
- show quoted text -
Yet another thing that you apparently don't comprehend. A device driver
for a particular device is not actually a part of Windows, and is not
produced by Microsoft.

A hardware vendor company can cock up (and hopefully fix) a Win driver
just as they can a driver for any other OS.

geoff "

Thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately I
have an I.T.(Information Tech) degree, so
I didn't know any of that until you explained
it.



Jeepers, the slipping standards for the awarding of degrees these days...

geoff

[JackA]

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 2:49:02 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 8/04/2016 10:46 PM, wrote:
Gary Eckmeier wrote: "Thanks for all the posts and help. "


Glad you cracked that nut! Typically
always some setting or update needed
in WINDOWS. No wonder nobody can
stand them....



Yet another thing that you apparently don't comprehend. A device driver
for a particular device is not actually a part of Windows, and is not
produced by Microsoft.

A hardware vendor company can cock up (and hopefully fix) a Win driver
just as they can a driver for any other OS.

geoff

I had the pleasure of using and chatting with the author of Anim8or 3D animation software. He was/is employed by nVidia! Nice guy!!

Jack

[jason]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 03:18:12 -0400 "Gary Eickmeier"
wrote in article dRINy.6681$r8.4893
@fx15.iad
The Soundblaster people sent me a response that I just need to update a
driver for Windows 10


+1!

[cedricl[_2_]]

If you're dealing with the new Windows 10 with the built in surround, so far, it only works in the Windows browser, not in a DAW. I came across this doing their launch presentation. The Dolby guy wanted to do a demo showing the surround capability of the new Windows 10 system but we couldn't get it to work with an audio interface. We went through two different interfaces. I had him buy the latest Safire unit that supported Windows 10. No luck. So, apparently, the surround system in Windows 10 is a "closed system" that has limited usage.


On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 8:20:14 PM UTC-7, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
I have this nice new computer, Dell XPS-8700 with Intel i7 processor, 12 G
RAM, and NVidea graphics card. I think the sound card is a built-in but it
has all 5.1 channels, and all channels work in the Windows setup screen. You
can test each speaker and the test tone comes out of the appropriate one. So
all 6 outputs are operational.

But go into Adobe Audition 5.5 and try to do surround sound, and I can't
even map the sound to the appropriate channels. It behaves as if there were
only the two stereo channels. Instructions not real clear, playing around
not very productive. Either there is some revelation I have yet to discover,
or I need a new, better sound card.

Anyone? Has anyone out there done 5.1 surround like this yet?

Gary Eickmeier