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"Romeo Rondeau" wrote: George wrote: GW BUSH is a janus faced scumbag What's a janus faced scumbag? Janus-faced means two-faced. I think that fits Kerry a lot more than Bush. Like him or not, Bush is a lot more consistent. Bush flip flops like a carp spawning |
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#362
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In article ,
"Romeo Rondeau" wrote: George wrote: GW BUSH is a janus faced scumbag What's a janus faced scumbag? Janus-faced means two-faced. I think that fits Kerry a lot more than Bush. Like him or not, Bush is a lot more consistent. Bush flip flops like a carp spawning |
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#363
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"Romeo Rondeau" wrote: - John F. Kennedy Presidential Inaugural Address, 1961 ... and you Roger Norman, are no John F. Kennedy. But both are veterans, and you could have some ordinary respect. Like the respect the left has for the 250 swift boat veterans? the ones that stood up for Kerry or the ones on the RNC payroll? |
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#364
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In article ,
"Romeo Rondeau" wrote: - John F. Kennedy Presidential Inaugural Address, 1961 ... and you Roger Norman, are no John F. Kennedy. But both are veterans, and you could have some ordinary respect. Like the respect the left has for the 250 swift boat veterans? the ones that stood up for Kerry or the ones on the RNC payroll? |
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#365
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playon wrote: Not so... if elections were held tomorrow, it's likely some conservative Muslim cleric would elected. Like that wasn't completely predictable and even predicted here. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#366
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playon wrote: Not so... if elections were held tomorrow, it's likely some conservative Muslim cleric would elected. Like that wasn't completely predictable and even predicted here. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#367
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U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles wrote: It was believed that dropping "The Bomb" would end the war more quickly with fewer losses--but it relied on Japan believing we had enough of them to do the job, which we didn't. Do you suppose it might have had anything to do with sending a message to the Soviet Union? It of course did have something to do with the Japanese surrender. The terms that were close to being worked out when it was dropped weren't unconditional. The bomb's intent with respect to the Japanese was to remove any basis for our needing to accept any conditions whatsoever so that we could rebuild the country entirely the way _we_ wanted it allowing as little traditional culture to remain as we saw fit. That wasn't much. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#368
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U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles wrote: It was believed that dropping "The Bomb" would end the war more quickly with fewer losses--but it relied on Japan believing we had enough of them to do the job, which we didn't. Do you suppose it might have had anything to do with sending a message to the Soviet Union? It of course did have something to do with the Japanese surrender. The terms that were close to being worked out when it was dropped weren't unconditional. The bomb's intent with respect to the Japanese was to remove any basis for our needing to accept any conditions whatsoever so that we could rebuild the country entirely the way _we_ wanted it allowing as little traditional culture to remain as we saw fit. That wasn't much. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#369
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Like we did in Hiroshima? Tell me there was a reason, other than vindictive, hateful, annihilation. To end the war quickly instead of having to go in and kill everyone. It worked. That interpretation is not born out by actual history. It was the spin but it wasn't the reality. That the spin is still believed by some does show that it was rather effective, if not accurate. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Like we did in Hiroshima? Tell me there was a reason, other than vindictive, hateful, annihilation. To end the war quickly instead of having to go in and kill everyone. It worked. That interpretation is not born out by actual history. It was the spin but it wasn't the reality. That the spin is still believed by some does show that it was rather effective, if not accurate. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#371
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:48:04 -0500, "Romeo Rondeau"
wrote: Invading another country for the purpose of stealing everything is a much bigger crime than 9/11. IRONY ALERT!! |
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#372
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:48:04 -0500, "Romeo Rondeau"
wrote: Invading another country for the purpose of stealing everything is a much bigger crime than 9/11. IRONY ALERT!! |
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#373
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Nathan West wrote: Dave Martin wrote: Nope - days, weeks or months of planning typically go into suicide bombings. I really wouldn't know...all I get to see are the pieces of crap after on the news. It is still just one press of a trigger or button that they have to be concerned about. To also put it in a different perspective I consider the kamikaze *pilots* to be much more courageous than the current murderers. The end goal is considerably different in the scope of human endeavors. What an utterly bizzare discussion. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Nathan West wrote: Dave Martin wrote: Nope - days, weeks or months of planning typically go into suicide bombings. I really wouldn't know...all I get to see are the pieces of crap after on the news. It is still just one press of a trigger or button that they have to be concerned about. To also put it in a different perspective I consider the kamikaze *pilots* to be much more courageous than the current murderers. The end goal is considerably different in the scope of human endeavors. What an utterly bizzare discussion. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#375
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Nathan West wrote: Terrorist on the other hand do not have you or your families, or this countries best interest in hand. They don't care, and are intent on furthering a doctrine that is archaic, and hell bent on destroying things you hold valuable. No, their interest, on many levels, is in resisting an infidel western occupying force. They don't want what we have but, rather, what they have. People will fight very vicously to get or regain what is theirs and we are not just talking about material matters either. One has been successfully spun if he believes the terrorists, and the many that support them in their hearts, want anything of ours. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Nathan West wrote: Terrorist on the other hand do not have you or your families, or this countries best interest in hand. They don't care, and are intent on furthering a doctrine that is archaic, and hell bent on destroying things you hold valuable. No, their interest, on many levels, is in resisting an infidel western occupying force. They don't want what we have but, rather, what they have. People will fight very vicously to get or regain what is theirs and we are not just talking about material matters either. One has been successfully spun if he believes the terrorists, and the many that support them in their hearts, want anything of ours. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: That is a unknown but voteing for Bush will not bring peace or security this has been proven by his "work" over his term so vote for hope or vote for more of the same I'll take more of the same, thank you. Your mistake is believing that is what you will get. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: That is a unknown but voteing for Bush will not bring peace or security this has been proven by his "work" over his term so vote for hope or vote for more of the same I'll take more of the same, thank you. Your mistake is believing that is what you will get. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#379
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: You're right, it is scarier. But the stakes aren't as high now as they were in 1962. You can't be serious. If you are then I begin to understand where you come from. That was a real crisis, way bigger in scope than 9/11. What I'm talking about is also _way_ bigger in scope than 9/11. 9/11 wasn't about scope, it was about willingness. The fear however is exactly the same. I was there then and I am here now. There is absolutely no comparison between the fear evidenced by people then and now. People are generally oblivious to the real stakes in this game and the near certainty of a raise. This is a no-limit game and it is certainly not zero-sum. We're trying to deliver body blows to an opponent who has a gun to our head. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: You're right, it is scarier. But the stakes aren't as high now as they were in 1962. You can't be serious. If you are then I begin to understand where you come from. That was a real crisis, way bigger in scope than 9/11. What I'm talking about is also _way_ bigger in scope than 9/11. 9/11 wasn't about scope, it was about willingness. The fear however is exactly the same. I was there then and I am here now. There is absolutely no comparison between the fear evidenced by people then and now. People are generally oblivious to the real stakes in this game and the near certainty of a raise. This is a no-limit game and it is certainly not zero-sum. We're trying to deliver body blows to an opponent who has a gun to our head. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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#381
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Not kidding
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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#382
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Not kidding
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Putin sounds just like GWB, did you see him on TV yesterday? Is he gonna "smoke 'em out of their holes?" |
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#384
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Putin sounds just like GWB, did you see him on TV yesterday? Is he gonna "smoke 'em out of their holes?" |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:22:26 -0700, Bob Cain
wrote: playon wrote: Not so... if elections were held tomorrow, it's likely some conservative Muslim cleric would elected. Like that wasn't completely predictable and even predicted here. Yep... deomcracy alone is not the answer. Hitler was democratically elected. |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:22:26 -0700, Bob Cain
wrote: playon wrote: Not so... if elections were held tomorrow, it's likely some conservative Muslim cleric would elected. Like that wasn't completely predictable and even predicted here. Yep... deomcracy alone is not the answer. Hitler was democratically elected. |
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#387
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Actually, the WTC truck bomb was 1993, so the answer is "no". Is there a statute of limitations on terrorist bombing? No, but Mr. Brainiac said it happened in 1992. |
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Romeo Rondeau wrote: Actually, the WTC truck bomb was 1993, so the answer is "no". Is there a statute of limitations on terrorist bombing? No, but Mr. Brainiac said it happened in 1992. |
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#392
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ospam (WillStG) wrote: Don Cooper Romeo Rondeau wrote: Putin sounds just like GWB, did you see him on TV yesterday? Is he gonna "smoke 'em out of their holes?" Russia has announced they will preempt terrorists wherever they are hiding and planning - anywhere in the World. A "Doctrine of Preemption". Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits I wish there was another world where I could get away from these ****ing idiots George |
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#393
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Unfortunately, (B) had the opposite effect, much as it is having today.
Once a technology is developed, it's available to anyone who wishes to apply the same diligent research and development. It's impossible to sequester knowledge. This is yet another example of unintended consequences. The US could not see beyond its shortlived atomic monopoly. It's time to realize that just because we _can_ pursue certain lines of research, perhaps we shouldn't blindly do so. This is a regret expressed by Albert Einstein to his dying day, since he personally pitched the atomic bomb program to President Roosevelt in order to win the war, then saw the consequences of exactly that outcome. Scott Fraser |
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Unfortunately, (B) had the opposite effect, much as it is having today.
Once a technology is developed, it's available to anyone who wishes to apply the same diligent research and development. It's impossible to sequester knowledge. This is yet another example of unintended consequences. The US could not see beyond its shortlived atomic monopoly. It's time to realize that just because we _can_ pursue certain lines of research, perhaps we shouldn't blindly do so. This is a regret expressed by Albert Einstein to his dying day, since he personally pitched the atomic bomb program to President Roosevelt in order to win the war, then saw the consequences of exactly that outcome. Scott Fraser |
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#397
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message
... What an utterly bizzare discussion. Ain't it, though? |
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#398
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message
... What an utterly bizzare discussion. Ain't it, though? |
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#399
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STOP IT!!! SHUT UP!!!
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#400
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STOP IT!!! SHUT UP!!!
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