[Randy Yates[_2_]]

PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around.

A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode
to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of
the input card becomes an issue.

Fighting this battle seems to be never-ending.

--RY

Randy Yates writes:

geoff writes:

On 5/08/2017 7:59 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 5/08/2017 11:54 AM, Randy Yates wrote:
Wow, active group these days....

Yep not too active, but probably a few like me who saw your post and
have no idea of any devices that fit your requirements. I can only
say I'd agree with your comment, "a bit of a rare bird". Probably
not a big enough market. Most people just buy a sound bar these
days, or a full HT receiver.

As I found. Needed a sound-bar because these latest ultra-thin TV seem
to have sound so tinny that it is pretty much unlistenable. And
firing up the stereo hook-up is too much hassle for 'everyday'
viewing. I save the stereo for 'special ' events.

But 7.2 , why ? Why not 11-6 or 15.9 ? Or maybe just 8 for real 3D.

Because that's the current standard? Except for this Dolby Atmos thingie
now.

Actually I've been existing just fine for 50 years on 2.0, including my
home theater room. Plain old stereo works pretty good when the audio
system is powerful, clean, and wide-range (the Klipschorns go reasonably
well down to 30 Hz).

At this point I've given up on a prebuilt unit and am leaning towards a
PC-based system. I am thinking of using something like this for the
audio:

https://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-i...s/scarlett-2i2

I'll start with one box (two outputs) and add more if needed.

The question of the type of PC is currently a big issue. I've considered units
like this fanless PC

https://www.logicsupply.com/ml450g-52/

or just a plain laptop so that I can have the system in the theater and
not have to deal with some sort of USB and HDMI extender, but I'm also
attracted to the idea of a full-power desktop to provide plenty of
storage and a PCI-e bus for a powerful 4K graphics card like the Nvidia
X.

--
Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer
Digital Signal Labs
http://www.digitalsignallabs.com

[Trevor]

On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around.

A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode
to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of
the input card becomes an issue.


Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy protection
using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD?

Trevor.

[Randy Yates[_2_]]

Trevor writes:

On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around.

A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode
to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of
the input card becomes an issue.


Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy
protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD?

Hi Trevor,

First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will
run under linux.

Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource
apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with.

Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more
difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems
quite mysterious:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray
--
Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer
Digital Signal Labs
http://www.digitalsignallabs.com

[Trevor]

Hi Randy,

I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay
drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection from
BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux I have
no idea, but possibly worth a look.

Trevor.


On 2/11/2017 12:57 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
Trevor writes:

On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around.

A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode
to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of
the input card becomes an issue.


Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy
protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD?

Hi Trevor,

First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will
run under linux.

Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource
apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with.

Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more
difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems
quite mysterious:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray

[geoff]

On 7/11/2017 7:00 PM, Trevor wrote:
Hi Randy,

I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay
drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection from
BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux I have
no idea, but possibly worth a look.


Surely even ardent Linux adherents keep a Win PC in the cupboard, just
for the occasional convenience ? Or do they all keep heads in sand ?

geoff

[Randy Yates[_2_]]

Trevor writes:

Hi Randy,

I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay
drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection
from BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux
I have no idea, but possibly worth a look.

I can certainly fire up my win10 vm and use it there, it's just
inconvenient.

Thanks much for the suggestion, Trevor.

--Randy



Trevor.


On 2/11/2017 12:57 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
Trevor writes:

On 28/10/2017 10:30 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
PS: One big issue in basing it on a PC is the ability to play new BluRay
DVDs and the copy protection is a real bear to get around.

A potential way around that is to buy an HDMI input card, then transcode
to the system HDMI output. But then the HDCP copy protection revision of
the input card becomes an issue.


Can you just rip the Bluray to hard drive and remove the copy
protection using something like DVDFab, like you can for DVD?

Hi Trevor,

First note that I'll be using linux. I don't think DVDFab will
run under linux.

Also note that I don't need to do anything special for DVDs - opensource
apps like vlc play them just fine without any messing with.

Apparently the Blu-ray DRM is more advanced and changes, making it more
difficult to "crack." I read some about it here but admit it still seems
quite mysterious:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blu-ray



--
Randy Yates, DSP/Embedded Firmware Developer
Digital Signal Labs
http://www.digitalsignallabs.com

[Trevor]

On 28/11/2017 1:25 PM, Randy Yates wrote:
Trevor writes:

Hi Randy,

I have no personal experience with BluRay since I don't have a BluRay
drive in my computer. I think that DVDFab can remove the protection
from BluRay disks though. Whether there is something similar for Linux
I have no idea, but possibly worth a look.

I can certainly fire up my win10 vm and use it there, it's just
inconvenient.

Thanks much for the suggestion, Trevor.

You are more than welcome if it is any help.

Trevor.

[Tobiah]

Thanks much for the suggestion, Trevor.

You are more than welcome if it is any help.

So if it wasn't of any help, then he's not welcome?