[Trevor]

On 16/06/2015 8:37 PM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 6/16/2015 6:13 AM, Trevor wrote:

How is listening to a digitized LP more convenient than just playing it
- assuming you haven't thrown away your record player?

Well not having to clean the records and swap sides every 15-20 minutes
is a pretty good start IMO.

You have a strange concept of "convenient."

I was thinking exactly the same of YOU!

First you have to digitize the record.

Which is as easy as recording it while you play it ONCE when you want to
listen to it anyway! A little longer if you split tracks and name them.
You don't need to do that if you don't want that *extra convenience* in
future though of course!


Then you have to go to a computer, which isn't usually in
place that's comfortable for music listening in order to hear it -
unless you carry your music with you and listen on earphones (how can
you possibly enjoy that?).

You need to stop thinking everyone is a Luddite like you. Some of us
listen to music on our HiFi systems through network servers and quality
DAC's rather than fiddle with vinyl turntables or even CD players these
days! But most portable players can do Wav and FLAC these days, and many
easily beat vinyl for fidelity. And surely you do know how to plug one
into an amplifier and speakers if you don't want to listen on
headphones, or is that too far beyond your capabilties?
(And I *can* enjoy music on my Sennheiser HD580's when I want that
anyway thanks very much!)


Then you have to find the file and start it
playing.

With automatic cataloging it's *FAR* easier to find ANY file on my
server than finding a vinyl record or even physical CD!!! Plus I can
easily search for tracks even if I don't know the album or even the artist!


None of that seems like anything convenient or fun to me.

Well that's just because you obviously cannot keep up with technology
*improvements*. Your choice.


If you keep your records stored properly, just a dab with a cleaning pad
while it's spinning will clean it sufficiently. If you leave your
records out where the dog can shed on them, then you probably need to
send it through the Kieth Monks cleaning machine before playing.

I find a proper cleaning machine is necessary before I can play a NEW
vinyl record unfortunately. Even then some are noisy or distorted due to
poor pressings :-( And even though stored in zip lock bags, I still find
it necessary to clean them before playing again. One of the things I
hated most about vinyl. So glad I haven't bought any in nearly 30 years!


I used to have a record changer that played both sides of a record. But
if I don't get up every 20 minutes or so, I fall asleep. Turning over a
record, or deciding to listen to the other side another time is a
welcome break for me.

Good for you, I'd rather go for a walk when I want exercise.


Nate isn't a teenager and I'm sure he takes good care
of his records.

As do I, by NOT playing them more than I have to!

So what do you plan to do with all of your rarely-played records? Give
them to the Library of Congress?

Nope, enjoy them *without* extra noise and distortion due to wear. And
probably get more money if I ever sell them too. YOU may actually prefer
the extra noise and distortion if you really want that nostalgic "vinyl"
sound of course.


Yep I still own thousands, and some of them I'd never wear out for
certain. But they are ones I probably will never get around to
digitising anyway.

And there's the rub. You have a collection that isn't well managed. Why?
Because it's a pain in the butt.

Exactly, and my digital collection *IS* well managed because it is NOT a
pain in the butt!!!


And that's why there are so many other
collections like that. A good plan is that whenever you feel like
listening to a record, digitize it while you're listening.

Isn't that just what I have been saying?!!!


Then store
the record someplace where you won't pull it off the shelf again and say
"I wonder if I should play this or look in my computer to see if I have
it in digital format."

Nah, I know the records I have yet to digitise that I could actually be
bothered playing.



The stylus still wears though, and they are NOT
cheap, at least mine aren't, perhaps yours are. Or you just have more
money than sense

I don't have a lot of either these days, but I know that I'm past the
point where I worry about record wear. I'm just not going to play
anything enough to wear it out. And I've managed to live for 72 years
without wearing out any records that I've owned. I'll tell you that I
don't mind a tick here or there. It doesn't spoil the experience for me,

Well it always did for me, and distortion even more so!


but I accept the fact that some people go cuss at the slightest pop or
click.

Glad to hear you understand not everyone has the same low concept of
quality.

Trevor.