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Gary Eickmeier wrote:

The first problem is my main concept of placing my Zoom H2n up front to
get
the good, close sound that I am used to goes down the drain when the big
stage monitors and PA speakers are placed right near where I would like
to
be. In my experience what this does is cause the AGC to go nuts from the
bass frequencies because all of the speakers are facing away from the
recorder, and the bass is most of what it hears, and all I get is whump
whump whump.


That's what you get for setting levels where you did. In 24 bit mode
there is substantial headroom at hand.

You should never be triggering that AGC circuit, and in fact, it should
be disabled in preference settings.

AGC is post conversion. Hence, excessive SPL + unfortunately high input
sensitivity settings = compressed garbage.

But the sound - er, good thing they hired me, because I KNOW sound, and
have recorded a lot of bands. Well, maybe not amplified bands, but I have
been around the block recording audio.


Hype, brother. You are a beginner, filled with theoretical concepts,
outputting long posts about what went wrong, again. Accept this and
learning begins. The biggest guru of all is humility.


Well said.

I admit it, I've been lectured more than once about out-smarting myself. ;-)

Ideally theory and practice are taught together in synch. Often way too
much theory gets learned first.


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Arny Krueger wrote:
"hank alrich" wrote in message
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:

The first problem is my main concept of placing my Zoom H2n up
front to get
the good, close sound that I am used to goes down the drain when
the big stage monitors and PA speakers are placed right near where
I would like to
be. In my experience what this does is cause the AGC to go nuts
from the bass frequencies because all of the speakers are facing
away from the recorder, and the bass is most of what it hears, and
all I get is whump whump whump.


That's what you get for setting levels where you did. In 24 bit mode
there is substantial headroom at hand.

You should never be triggering that AGC circuit, and in fact, it
should be disabled in preference settings.

AGC is post conversion. Hence, excessive SPL + unfortunately high
input sensitivity settings = compressed garbage.

But the sound - er, good thing they hired me, because I KNOW sound,
and have recorded a lot of bands. Well, maybe not amplified
bands, but I have been around the block recording audio.


Hype, brother. You are a beginner, filled with theoretical concepts,
outputting long posts about what went wrong, again. Accept this and
learning begins. The biggest guru of all is humility.


Well said.

I admit it, I've been lectured more than once about out-smarting
myself. ;-)
Ideally theory and practice are taught together in synch. Often way
too much theory gets learned first.


Hi Arn - if you will read the whole thread, you might see that it was said
in jest.

Gary


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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"hank alrich" wrote in message
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:

The first problem is my main concept of placing my Zoom H2n up
front to get
the good, close sound that I am used to goes down the drain when
the big stage monitors and PA speakers are placed right near where
I would like to
be. In my experience what this does is cause the AGC to go nuts
from the bass frequencies because all of the speakers are facing
away from the recorder, and the bass is most of what it hears, and
all I get is whump whump whump.

That's what you get for setting levels where you did. In 24 bit mode
there is substantial headroom at hand.

You should never be triggering that AGC circuit, and in fact, it
should be disabled in preference settings.

AGC is post conversion. Hence, excessive SPL + unfortunately high
input sensitivity settings = compressed garbage.

But the sound - er, good thing they hired me, because I KNOW sound,
and have recorded a lot of bands. Well, maybe not amplified
bands, but I have been around the block recording audio.

Hype, brother. You are a beginner, filled with theoretical concepts,
outputting long posts about what went wrong, again. Accept this and
learning begins. The biggest guru of all is humility.


Well said.

I admit it, I've been lectured more than once about out-smarting
myself. ;-)
Ideally theory and practice are taught together in synch. Often way
too much theory gets learned first.


Hi Arn - if you will read the whole thread, you might see that it was said
in jest.


In humor there is often truth, and you can quote me about that! ;-)


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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"hank alrich" wrote in message
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:

The first problem is my main concept of placing my Zoom H2n up
front to get
the good, close sound that I am used to goes down the drain when
the big stage monitors and PA speakers are placed right near where
I would like to
be. In my experience what this does is cause the AGC to go nuts
from the bass frequencies because all of the speakers are facing
away from the recorder, and the bass is most of what it hears, and
all I get is whump whump whump.

That's what you get for setting levels where you did. In 24 bit mode
there is substantial headroom at hand.

You should never be triggering that AGC circuit, and in fact, it
should be disabled in preference settings.

AGC is post conversion. Hence, excessive SPL + unfortunately high
input sensitivity settings = compressed garbage.

But the sound - er, good thing they hired me, because I KNOW sound,
and have recorded a lot of bands. Well, maybe not amplified
bands, but I have been around the block recording audio.

Hype, brother. You are a beginner, filled with theoretical concepts,
outputting long posts about what went wrong, again. Accept this and
learning begins. The biggest guru of all is humility.

Well said.

I admit it, I've been lectured more than once about out-smarting
myself. ;-)
Ideally theory and practice are taught together in synch. Often way
too much theory gets learned first.


Hi Arn - if you will read the whole thread, you might see that it was said
in jest.


In humor there is often truth, and you can quote me about that! ;-)


+1 !

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