[Brian[_11_]]

"Trevor" wrote:
"PStamler" wrote in message
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I find it a constant source of amusement that people work so hard to
simulate the things that we worked hard to avoid when analog tape was the
only game in town.

Same with photog's wanting to recreate film grain. Some people just love
what they are used to. Perhaps contrary to the old joke, nostalgia *is* the
same as it used to be! :-)


Do they think the reason recordings from Atlantic, Muscle Shoals and Abbey
Road sound so good is that the engineers were saturating the tape? No;
those recordings sound good because they involved:

Excellent musicians
Playing Excellent Instruments and Singing Well
In studios with Great Acoustics
Via Excellent Microphones
Into Excellent Electronics

Well that's a joke since even cheap electronics are so much better these
days. It's the fact the electronics weren't excellent that gave them a
distinctive sound.



And Excellent Recorders

Another joke compared to any cheap digital box these days.


That were Carefully Adjusted for Excellent Frequency Response

Which was still nowhere near as good as cheap digital even when "carefully
adjusted".


and Low Distortion.

It's the high distortion people are trying to emulate. Truly low distortion
is a modern achievement, and taken for granted with digital these days.
(until the master is deliberately clipped to hell and back anyway, but
that's another issue altogether)


All under the control of some
Very Smart Producers and Recording Engineers.
That's the secret -- not saturated tape.

Right, and all you need is a full or 1/2 track machine to bounce your
digital to if you really want that sound these days. God knows why though, I
sure don't.

Trevor.

I suppose its like someone wanting to play there records on an old system
as if they play there records on a hi fi system they can clearly hear the
hiss and rumble.

--
Regards Brian

[geoff]

"Brian" wrote in message
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I suppose its like someone wanting to play there records on an old system
as if they play there records on a hi fi system they can clearly hear the
hiss and rumble.

Transcribe an LP to CD and you get pretty much exactly the same effects (be
they positive or negative) that you get playing the LP directly,and if the
mechanical feedback and 'excitation' of the replay system is part of what
does it for you, have the speakers running as you transcribe.

Unless you have a really crappy CD player....

geoff

[Trevor]

"geoff" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
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I suppose its like someone wanting to play there records on an old system
as if they play there records on a hi fi system they can clearly hear the
hiss and rumble.

Transcribe an LP to CD and you get pretty much exactly the same effects
(be they positive or negative) that you get playing the LP directly,and if
the mechanical feedback and 'excitation' of the replay system is part of
what does it for you, have the speakers running as you transcribe.



Well that's all true, but misses the point many actually like the ritual of
finding half way playable pressings, cleaning the records, changing sides,
buying new stylii, belts etc. :-)
Many others that lived through it, were glad to give that all up!

Trevor.

[geoff]

"Trevor" wrote in message
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"geoff" wrote in message
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"Brian" wrote in message
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I suppose its like someone wanting to play there records on an old
system
as if they play there records on a hi fi system they can clearly hear
the
hiss and rumble.

Transcribe an LP to CD and you get pretty much exactly the same effects
(be they positive or negative) that you get playing the LP directly,and
if the mechanical feedback and 'excitation' of the replay system is part
of what does it for you, have the speakers running as you transcribe.



Well that's all true, but misses the point many actually like the ritual
of finding half way playable pressings, cleaning the records, changing
sides, buying new stylii, belts etc. :-)
Many others that lived through it, were glad to give that all up!


But the nostalgia ?!!!

geoff

[Trevor]

"geoff" wrote in message
...
I suppose its like someone wanting to play there records on an old
system
as if they play there records on a hi fi system they can clearly hear
the
hiss and rumble.

Transcribe an LP to CD and you get pretty much exactly the same effects
(be they positive or negative) that you get playing the LP directly,and
if the mechanical feedback and 'excitation' of the replay system is part
of what does it for you, have the speakers running as you transcribe.



Well that's all true, but misses the point many actually like the ritual
of finding half way playable pressings, cleaning the records, changing
sides, buying new stylii, belts etc. :-)
Many others that lived through it, were glad to give that all up!


But the nostalgia ?!!!

Yep, it always comes back to that. Some people get over it, some never do.

Trevor.