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On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:21:09 -0700, bob wrote
(in article ): On Apr 1, 7:40=A0pm, "Harry Lavo" wrote: Conventional ABX'ng has never been shown to be valid in evaluating MUSIC differences that other approaches (the aforementioned Oohashi test) and e= ven the ABC/hr test have proven better at. =A0Yet ABX is the test that Arny developed a computerized version of, and has relied on. This is a good example of subjectivists' penchant for inventing science. (There have been plenty of others in this thread.) Harry takes it upon himself to declare something to be true--that our hearing perception is somehow different for music than for other sounds--without a shred of evidence. In fact, DBTs have been accepted as valid by the field of psychoacoustics (of which Harry is not a part and in which he has no training), to the point where no peer reviewed journal will accept reports of listening tests that are NOT double-blind. The claim that human hearing perception is more acute when listening to music is not only unproven but false. Music, because of its dynamic changes and the phenomenon of masking, makes for a very poor medium for objective listening tests of any kind. Someone is confusing hearing acumen with LISTENING acumen. It is pretty well established that most normal people hear the same range of sounds, both as to frequency response and dynamic range and that they respond to these things in a similar way. OTOH, some people, when listening to music, hear things in music that other people miss entirely. This is LISTENING ability. You encounter all the time the myth about "golden-eared audiophiles". Well, I'm sure that I need to tell no one here that there is no such thing. But there are audiophiles who have trained themselves to listen for the minutest anomalies in the reproduction of music by audio gear. There's nothing "golden" about it, all it takes is a willingness to do it and many years of listening experience. Anyone can do it, it just takes discipline and dedication. Of course, the reality is that most people don't bother. Most audiophiles don't even develop the skill. Noticing that others have developed this ability has given rise to the "golden-ear" myth. Everyone knows the old saw, "you look but you do not see." Well, the audio implementation of that old saw is, "you listen but you do not hear." |
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