[Sid Marx]

"If you ask me, it's bull****. **** that for a joke, how dare they build a
mosque on that site." ~ Danny Taddei

What does Pastor pRick Ryan say about this?



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Ground Zero Mosque Overwhelmingly Approved By NYC Community Board: 'It's A
Seed Of Peace'

| 05/25/10 11:40 PM |


NEW YORK - After hours of contentious public comment, a New York City
community board voted late Tuesday to support a plan to build a mosque and
cultural center near ground zero.

"It's a seed of peace," board member Rob Townley said. "We believe that this
is significant step in the Muslim community to counteract the hate and
fanaticism in the minority of the community."

The vote was 29-to-1 in favor of the plan, with 10 abstentions. The move by
the Manhattan Community Board 1, while not necessary for the building's
owners to move forward with the project, is seen as key to obtaining
residents' support.

The organizations sponsoring the project say they're trying to meet a
growing need for prayer space in lower Manhattan, as well as provide a venue
for the dissemination of mainstream Islam, to counter extremism.

"The moderate Muslim voice has been squashed in America," said Bruce
Wallace, who said he lost a nephew in the Sept. 11 attacks. "Here is a
chance to allow moderate Muslims to teach people that not all Muslims are
terrorists."

Others at the meeting had a different view.

"We think it's an insult," said Pamela Gellar, executive director of Stop
Islamization of America. "It's demeaning to non-Muslims to build a shrine
dedicated to the very ideology that inspired 9/11."

The plan, which would include areas for interfaith activities and
conferences and an arts center, has attracted political and social
opposition.

Tea party activist Mark Williams has called the proposed center a monument
to the terror attacks. And some Sept. 11 victims' families say they're angry
it would be built so close to where their relatives died.

Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer, who has been the target of
disparaging remarks by Williams for supporting the plans, defended his
position and denounced offensive speech directed at him or at Muslims.

"What I want people to do is to take a look at the totality of what they are
proposing," Stringer said. "What we're rejecting here is outright bigotry
and hatred."

Stringer made his remarks before the vote while standing outside the Park
Place building, a former department store that was damaged by debris on
Sept. 11. The paint on the building's facade is peeling, and dirt is
accumulating on its columns.

Blocks away, cranes extended over the vast World Trade Center construction
site.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said there were no security concerns about
building a mosque in the area.

Stringer said he understood the sensitivities of the families of 9/11
victims.

"I don't think anybody wants to do anything to disrespect those families.
They made the ultimate sacrifice," he said. "At the same time, we have to
balance diversity and look for opportunities to bring different groups
together."

The American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative, the
organizations sponsoring the project, have said that they bought the
building in 2009 and planned to break ground later this year. It could take
up to three years to build the Cordoba House. A Friday prayer service has
been held at the building since September 2009.

Besides the political and social opposition to the project, city officials
say the plan also could be hindered by a decades-old proposal to give
landmark status to a building that would be replaced by the mosque and
center.

City officials say the current building, constructed between 1857 and 1858
in the Italian Renaissance palazzo style, is historically and
architecturally significant.

[Frank]

On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:09:32 +1000, in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article Danny T & pRick Ryan say......:"Ground Zero Mosque
Overwhelmingly Approved: 'It's A Seed Of Peace'"............BULL****,
" Sid Marx" wrote:

"If you ask me, it's bull****. **** that for a joke, how dare they build a
mosque on that site." ~ Danny Taddei

What does Pastor pRick Ryan say about this?



=================


Ground Zero Mosque Overwhelmingly Approved By NYC Community Board: 'It's A
Seed Of Peace'

| 05/25/10 11:40 PM |


NEW YORK - After hours of contentious public comment, a New York City
community board voted late Tuesday to support a plan to build a mosque and
cultural center near ground zero.

"It's a seed of peace," board member Rob Townley said. "We believe that this
is significant step in the Muslim community to counteract the hate and
fanaticism in the minority of the community."

The vote was 29-to-1 in favor of the plan, with 10 abstentions. The move by
the Manhattan Community Board 1, while not necessary for the building's
owners to move forward with the project, is seen as key to obtaining
residents' support.

The organizations sponsoring the project say they're trying to meet a
growing need for prayer space in lower Manhattan, as well as provide a venue
for the dissemination of mainstream Islam, to counter extremism.

"The moderate Muslim voice has been squashed in America," said Bruce
Wallace, who said he lost a nephew in the Sept. 11 attacks. "Here is a
chance to allow moderate Muslims to teach people that not all Muslims are
terrorists."

Others at the meeting had a different view.

"We think it's an insult," said Pamela Gellar, executive director of Stop
Islamization of America. "It's demeaning to non-Muslims to build a shrine
dedicated to the very ideology that inspired 9/11."

The plan, which would include areas for interfaith activities and
conferences and an arts center, has attracted political and social
opposition.

Tea party activist Mark Williams has called the proposed center a monument
to the terror attacks. And some Sept. 11 victims' families say they're angry
it would be built so close to where their relatives died.

Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer, who has been the target of
disparaging remarks by Williams for supporting the plans, defended his
position and denounced offensive speech directed at him or at Muslims.

"What I want people to do is to take a look at the totality of what they are
proposing," Stringer said. "What we're rejecting here is outright bigotry
and hatred."

Stringer made his remarks before the vote while standing outside the Park
Place building, a former department store that was damaged by debris on
Sept. 11. The paint on the building's facade is peeling, and dirt is
accumulating on its columns.

Blocks away, cranes extended over the vast World Trade Center construction
site.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said there were no security concerns about
building a mosque in the area.

Stringer said he understood the sensitivities of the families of 9/11
victims.

"I don't think anybody wants to do anything to disrespect those families.
They made the ultimate sacrifice," he said. "At the same time, we have to
balance diversity and look for opportunities to bring different groups
together."

The American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative, the
organizations sponsoring the project, have said that they bought the
building in 2009 and planned to break ground later this year. It could take
up to three years to build the Cordoba House. A Friday prayer service has
been held at the building since September 2009.

Besides the political and social opposition to the project, city officials
say the plan also could be hindered by a decades-old proposal to give
landmark status to a building that would be replaced by the mosque and
center.

City officials say the current building, constructed between 1857 and 1858
in the Italian Renaissance palazzo style, is historically and
architecturally significant.


And this post has exactly what to do with the rec.audio.pro newsgroup?

I live a stone's throw, almost literally, from the hole in the ground
that used to be the World Trade Center, and therefore not too far from
the building being discussed in this post, and you don't see me
posting here about it.

I've been at this location for 23 years now, by the way, first for
nine years, then about three years elsewhere, than back here again for
14 years. I didn't just move here yesterday. It's my neighborhood and
I have some very strong feelings about it. And I've paid the price of
living here, including inhaling dust, fumes, smoke, and airborne
debris 24/7 from the fire that burned for almost six months in the
aftermath of September 11, 2001, just a couple of thousand feet from
my living room window.

I've also spent most of my adult life working in this very
neighborhood, just blocks from the WTC, even when I didn't live in the
area. In fact, I originally moved here because it's a beautiful place,
in my opinion, and I was sick and tired of a 90-minute commute (each
way) to and from work each and every day.

I should mention that for reasons totally unrelated to the above, this
is likely to be my last Usenet post, at least for a while, and I
therefore don't expect to be commenting on any follow-ups to this
thread that others might post, so if you ask me a specific question
regarding what I've just written, and I don't reply, that's why; I'm
not ignoring you, I'm simply unavailable to respond.

--
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