[Arkansan Raider]

Hey, all!

My singing group is going to Panama City, Panama this June on a missions
trip. We're bringing strictly fly-date stuff to include our board,
wireless ears and wireless mics. No outboard FX or anything, as it's
included in the Roland board.

However, I just saw something on PA Of The Day that gave me pause:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-...d=173813726282

How hard is it going to be to get good sound gear for our concerts?
Heck, I'm not even sure we're going to be able to get *power* for our
concerts, at this point...

---Jeff

[Danny T]

On Apr 16, 8:10*am, Arkansan Raider wrote:
Hey, all!

My singing group is going to Panama City, Panama this June on a missions
trip. We're bringing strictly fly-date stuff to include our board,
wireless ears and wireless mics. No outboard FX or anything, as it's
included in the Roland board.

However, I just saw something on PA Of The Day that gave me pause:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-...2?ref=mf#!/pho....

How hard is it going to be to get good sound gear for our concerts?
Heck, I'm not even sure we're going to be able to get *power* for our
concerts, at this point...

---Jeff

I've never done any show there but I can tell you its a great town.
Its a big, crazy town with a lot of cut throats. Watch your butt.
Bring some spending cash for Avenita Central. You'll never find
another place like it in the world and you'll never find better sport
fishing! Oh, and you've never seen a rainy season like you're going to
find in June either.

[Scott Dorsey]

Arkansan Raider wrote:
My singing group is going to Panama City, Panama this June on a missions
trip. We're bringing strictly fly-date stuff to include our board,
wireless ears and wireless mics. No outboard FX or anything, as it's
included in the Roland board.

However, I just saw something on PA Of The Day that gave me pause:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-...d=173813726282

How hard is it going to be to get good sound gear for our concerts?
Heck, I'm not even sure we're going to be able to get *power* for our
concerts, at this point...

Where are your concerts? If you're in Panama City you won't have any problem
renting pretty much the same concert gear you can get in a smaller city in
the US. If you're going out into the country, you will have trouble getting
equipment and power.

So your first job is to find out where the places where you are booked, and
whether they have house systems of any kind, and how big they are. Then you
know whether you need to rent touring systems in the city. Then you go to
the Event Production Directory and find places that might have what you need.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Danny T]

On Apr 16, 8:59*am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Arkansan Raider wrote:

My singing group is going to Panama City, Panama this June on a missions
trip. We're bringing strictly fly-date stuff to include our board,
wireless ears and wireless mics. No outboard FX or anything, as it's
included in the Roland board.

However, I just saw something on PA Of The Day that gave me pause:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-...2?ref=mf#!/pho....

How hard is it going to be to get good sound gear for our concerts?
Heck, I'm not even sure we're going to be able to get *power* for our
concerts, at this point...

Where are your concerts? *If you're in Panama City you won't have any problem
renting pretty much the same concert gear you can get in a smaller city in
the US. *If you're going out into the country, you will have trouble getting
equipment and power.

So your first job is to find out where the places where you are booked, and
whether they have house systems of any kind, and how big they are. *Then you
know whether you need to rent touring systems in the city. * Then you go to
the Event Production Directory and find places that might have what you need.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. *C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

He's talking about the Country of Panama in South America. They still
use 110 there and the power gird is as good as it is in the states.
Its a crazy city but it is fun! As far as modernization its pretty up
on things. Its like a really hot, wet, and latin NY city only with
more crime and nasty bugs you've never seen before.

[Arkansan Raider]

Danny T wrote:
On Apr 16, 8:59 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Arkansan Raider wrote:

My singing group is going to Panama City, Panama this June on a missions
trip. We're bringing strictly fly-date stuff to include our board,
wireless ears and wireless mics. No outboard FX or anything, as it's
included in the Roland board.
However, I just saw something on PA Of The Day that gave me pause:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-...2?ref=mf#!/pho...
How hard is it going to be to get good sound gear for our concerts?
Heck, I'm not even sure we're going to be able to get *power* for our
concerts, at this point...
Where are your concerts? If you're in Panama City you won't have any problem
renting pretty much the same concert gear you can get in a smaller city in
the US. If you're going out into the country, you will have trouble getting
equipment and power.

So your first job is to find out where the places where you are booked, and
whether they have house systems of any kind, and how big they are. Then you
know whether you need to rent touring systems in the city. Then you go to
the Event Production Directory and find places that might have what you need.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

He's talking about the Country of Panama in South America. They still
use 110 there and the power gird is as good as it is in the states.
Its a crazy city but it is fun! As far as modernization its pretty up
on things. Its like a really hot, wet, and latin NY city only with
more crime and nasty bugs you've never seen before.

Okay, get this:

I heard some scuttlebutt (roughly 3rd hand) that the President of Panama
has taken interest and wants us to sing in a fairly major soccer stadium
(I think I remember 10,000 seats) for a big event.

Not sure how that one's gonna' shake out, but the remaining events are
supposed to be decidedly small scale--as we usually are--like 100-300
people.

So if, like you're sayin', it's a fairly good power grid then the
stadium event (if it happens) should be the least trying of the bunch
equipment-wise and power-wise.

The smaller events in the villages should be interesting, though.

If we didn't have a vocal percussionist, we could probably do a lot of
street corner stuff without PA at all--in fact a lot of our repertoire
could allow for that. But it'd be tough to do a full concert without power.

I'm really lookin' forward to this. We're accompanying a medical
missions team, and we'll be helping them along with helping build homes
and clinics, among other things. The concertizin' is really only a small
part of what we'll be getting to do.

Thanks for your insights, guys!

---Jeff

[Scott Dorsey]

Arkansan Raider wrote:

I heard some scuttlebutt (roughly 3rd hand) that the President of Panama
has taken interest and wants us to sing in a fairly major soccer stadium
(I think I remember 10,000 seats) for a big event.

That's easy. It's easy, because the PA in events like this won't be your
problem, it'll be someone else's. And when something goes wrong with it,
that won't be your problem either. But a talk with the stadium folks is
definitely in order.

So if, like you're sayin', it's a fairly good power grid then the
stadium event (if it happens) should be the least trying of the bunch
equipment-wise and power-wise.

It depends where you are. If you're in Panama City, the grid is pretty solid,
and if you're in the Canal Zone the grid is pretty solid and beyond that it
can vary.

The smaller events in the villages should be interesting, though.

If we didn't have a vocal percussionist, we could probably do a lot of
street corner stuff without PA at all--in fact a lot of our repertoire
could allow for that. But it'd be tough to do a full concert without power.

Ever worked with something like the Fender portable PA? It's not horrible
and it's very well suited to small stuff like that.

I'm really lookin' forward to this. We're accompanying a medical
missions team, and we'll be helping them along with helping build homes
and clinics, among other things. The concertizin' is really only a small
part of what we'll be getting to do.

AHA! Well, the medical missions folks will have good power anywhere they
go, you can be sure of that. That's the first thing they'll make sure about.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Danny T]

On Apr 16, 1:09*pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Arkansan Raider wrote:



I heard some scuttlebutt (roughly 3rd hand) that the President of Panama
has taken interest and wants us to sing in a fairly major soccer stadium
(I think I remember 10,000 seats) for a big event.

That's easy. *It's easy, because the PA in events like this won't be your
problem, it'll be someone else's. *And when something goes wrong with it,
that won't be your problem either. *But a talk with the stadium folks is
definitely in order.

So if, like you're sayin', it's a fairly good power grid then the
stadium event (if it happens) should be the least trying of the bunch
equipment-wise and power-wise.

It depends where you are. *If you're in Panama City, the grid is pretty solid,
and if you're in the Canal Zone the grid is pretty solid and beyond that it
can vary.

The smaller events in the villages should be interesting, though.

If we didn't have a vocal percussionist, we could probably do a lot of
street corner stuff without PA at all--in fact a lot of our repertoire
could allow for that. But it'd be tough to do a full concert without power.

Ever worked with something like the Fender portable PA? *It's not horrible
and it's very well suited to small stuff like that.

I'm really lookin' forward to this. We're accompanying a medical
missions team, and we'll be helping them along with helping build homes
and clinics, among other things. The concertizin' is really only a small
part of what we'll be getting to do.

AHA! *Well, the medical missions folks will have good power anywhere they
go, you can be sure of that. *That's the first thing they'll make sure about.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. *C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I went from Colon across to Panama and anywhere there are people,
there is good power.
I had a Fender PD250 and wasn't horrible but had a lack of anything
bass. There would be no problem getting power anywhere needed anyway.
I haven't been down there in years but I would think it has gotten
even better over time. It's a huge city - and a really fun place to
go.

[Arkansan Raider]

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Arkansan Raider wrote:
I heard some scuttlebutt (roughly 3rd hand) that the President of Panama
has taken interest and wants us to sing in a fairly major soccer stadium
(I think I remember 10,000 seats) for a big event.

That's easy. It's easy, because the PA in events like this won't be your
problem, it'll be someone else's. And when something goes wrong with it,
that won't be your problem either. But a talk with the stadium folks is
definitely in order.

That makes good sense.


So if, like you're sayin', it's a fairly good power grid then the
stadium event (if it happens) should be the least trying of the bunch
equipment-wise and power-wise.

It depends where you are. If you're in Panama City, the grid is pretty solid,
and if you're in the Canal Zone the grid is pretty solid and beyond that it
can vary.

The smaller events in the villages should be interesting, though.

If we didn't have a vocal percussionist, we could probably do a lot of
street corner stuff without PA at all--in fact a lot of our repertoire
could allow for that. But it'd be tough to do a full concert without power.

Ever worked with something like the Fender portable PA? It's not horrible
and it's very well suited to small stuff like that.

We've been using 2 QSC HPR 181i subs and 2 QSC HPR 122i mains. I'm
hoping we can get something like that. It would keep our re-EQing to a
minimum.


I'm really lookin' forward to this. We're accompanying a medical
missions team, and we'll be helping them along with helping build homes
and clinics, among other things. The concertizin' is really only a small
part of what we'll be getting to do.

AHA! Well, the medical missions folks will have good power anywhere they
go, you can be sure of that. That's the first thing they'll make sure about.
--scott

Oh, good! That makes sense. I hope it works out that way.

---Jeff

[Arkansan Raider]

Danny T wrote:

I went from Colon across to Panama and anywhere there are people,
there is good power.
I had a Fender PD250 and wasn't horrible but had a lack of anything
bass. There would be no problem getting power anywhere needed anyway.
I haven't been down there in years but I would think it has gotten
even better over time. It's a huge city - and a really fun place to
go.


We've been running 2 QSC HPR 181i subs and 2 QSC HPR 122i mains. What's
the chances of getting something comparable in the area?

---Jeff

[Danny T]

On Apr 16, 9:05*pm, Arkansan Raider wrote:
Danny T wrote:
I went from Colon across to Panama and anywhere there are people,
there is good power.
I had a Fender PD250 and wasn't horrible but had a lack of anything
bass. There would be no problem getting power anywhere needed anyway.
I haven't been down there in years but I would think it has gotten
even better over time. It's a huge city - and a really fun place to
go.

We've been running 2 QSC HPR 181i subs and 2 QSC HPR 122i mains. What's
the chances of getting something comparable in the area?

---Jeff

I was actually never in Panama while in gig mode. I took my boat
through the canal on my way to Florida and just spent a about 2 months
there so I really don't know.