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I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach - i have both mac and pc
platforms. I own DigitalPerformer and the MOTU or should I get a
digital pc turntable and different software? I have many LPs to
convert so easier is better.

[Scott Dorsey]

In article ,
wrote:
I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach - i have both mac and pc
platforms. I own DigitalPerformer and the MOTU or should I get a
digital pc turntable and different software? I have many LPs to
convert so easier is better.

Get a good turntable that tracks well, a good cartridge, a vacuum cleaning
machine, a decent preamp, and whatever audio input device and software you
prefer. Stay as far away from the "pc turntable" record-destroying machines
as possible.

What is your budget? $1k? $10k?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Chris Hornbeck]

On 15 Apr 2009 20:38:34 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Get a good turntable that tracks well, a good cartridge, a vacuum cleaning
machine, a decent preamp, and whatever audio input device and software you
prefer. Stay as far away from the "pc turntable" record-destroying machines
as possible.

It must be Spring! These questions appear with the turn of seasons.
My favorite part is after I rant about how no software can possibly
fix any problems in the transfer (a deeply held religious issue
with me, apparently...) and then Paul (who actually knows and
uses modern software for the purpose, which is obviously cheating!)
mentions several types, compares their performance, and
recommends something useful and inexpensive. Then I'm free to
rant on further (but never do - even I have some pride.)

Ah, the joys of Spring!


Much thanks, as always,
Chris Hornbeck

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On Apr 15, 5:06*pm, wrote:
I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach - i have both mac and pc
platforms. I own DigitalPerformer and the MOTU or should I get a
digital pc turntable and different software? I have many LPs to
convert so easier is better.

Final Vinal for the Mac.

[Mike Rivers]

wrote:
I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach

One LP per night (or day if your schedule is like that). Get a decent
turntable, a good record cleaner, a comfortable chair, and a
fair-to-middlin'
audio interface for your computer. Put on the record, listen to it while
you're
recording it, enjoy it, and then file away the recording.

Next night, next record. You probably won't live long enough to listen to
any of your computer-stored recordings so you won't have to worry about
prettying them up.

Sorry if that sounds sarcastic, but it's a daunting task to digitize a
large record
collection and so few people actually enjoy the fruits of their labor.


--
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me he
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)

[Geoff]

Mike Rivers wrote:
wrote:
I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach

One LP per night (or day if your schedule is like that). Get a decent
turntable, a good record cleaner, a comfortable chair, and a
fair-to-middlin'
audio interface for your computer. Put on the record, listen to it
while you're
recording it, enjoy it, and then file away the recording.

And after doiing a few, go get a 2nd-hand commercial CD if available), and
see if you are wasting your time and effort.

geoff

[Paul Stamler[_2_]]

wrote in message
...
I'm finally going to convert my huge pile of vintage jazz, blues and
rock to digital. What is the best approach - i have both mac and pc
platforms. I own DigitalPerformer and the MOTU or should I get a
digital pc turntable and different software? I have many LPs to
convert so easier is better.

Don't go the digital turntable route -- they're almost uniformly crap, with
flimsy construction and cartridges that will chew your LPs to bits.

If you don't already have one, get a decent-quality turntable, about $300
worth, with a Grado cartridge on it. Rega makes some. Or get a clean used AR
from the 1980s (the reissue series, with real tone arms on them) and put a
new belt on it. Get a decent-quality preamp (this doesn't mean Radio Shack;
the low-priced Hagerman is the best bang for the buck) and record from the
tape outputs of the preamp into the line inputs of the MOTU.

Digital Performer is probably not the best platform for LP processing,
although it'll do in a pinch. I use DC SIX (the more modern version is DC
SEVEN) and Adobe Audition; they're both Windows-only, but you can use the
Windows wrapper if you only have a Mac.

If you really do it right, prepare to spend, say, three or four hours
cleaning up each record. Once you've done a dozen or two, you may decide to
hunt up and pay for CD reissues instead.

Peace,
Paul

[Nil]

On 16 Apr 2009, "Paul Stamler" wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

If you really do it right, prepare to spend, say, three or four
hours cleaning up each record. Once you've done a dozen or two,
you may decide to hunt up and pay for CD reissues instead.

That's become my conclusion, too. I'm too anal-retentive to just record
an LP to digital and leave it at that - I have to "fix" at least some
of the artifacts. I've made a lot of mistakes but have improved my
methods and now I'm pretty good at it. But it really is tedious and
time-consuming. Now I only do it for stuff that isn't already available
on CD. My time is worth more than the $10 or whatever a used CD would
cost.

[Laurence Payne[_2_]]

On 16 Apr 2009 17:22:07 GMT, Nil
wrote:

If you really do it right, prepare to spend, say, three or four
hours cleaning up each record. Once you've done a dozen or two,
you may decide to hunt up and pay for CD reissues instead.

That's become my conclusion, too. I'm too anal-retentive to just record
an LP to digital and leave it at that - I have to "fix" at least some
of the artifacts. I've made a lot of mistakes but have improved my
methods and now I'm pretty good at it. But it really is tedious and
time-consuming. Now I only do it for stuff that isn't already available
on CD. My time is worth more than the $10 or whatever a used CD would
cost.

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

[Scott Dorsey]

Laurence Payne wrote:
On 16 Apr 2009 17:22:07 GMT, Nil
wrote:

If you really do it right, prepare to spend, say, three or four
hours cleaning up each record. Once you've done a dozen or two,
you may decide to hunt up and pay for CD reissues instead.

That's become my conclusion, too. I'm too anal-retentive to just record
an LP to digital and leave it at that - I have to "fix" at least some
of the artifacts. I've made a lot of mistakes but have improved my
methods and now I'm pretty good at it. But it really is tedious and
time-consuming. Now I only do it for stuff that isn't already available
on CD. My time is worth more than the $10 or whatever a used CD would
cost.

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

Of course not, old jazz records are no good and they just take up too much
space. Mail them all to Box 1229, Williamsburg, VA. 23187....
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article ,
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Laurence Payne wrote:
On 16 Apr 2009 17:22:07 GMT, Nil
wrote:

If you really do it right, prepare to spend, say, three or four
hours cleaning up each record. Once you've done a dozen or two,
you may decide to hunt up and pay for CD reissues instead.

That's become my conclusion, too. I'm too anal-retentive to just record
an LP to digital and leave it at that - I have to "fix" at least some
of the artifacts. I've made a lot of mistakes but have improved my
methods and now I'm pretty good at it. But it really is tedious and
time-consuming. Now I only do it for stuff that isn't already available
on CD. My time is worth more than the $10 or whatever a used CD would
cost.

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

Of course not, old jazz records are no good and they just take up too much
space. Mail them all to Box 1229, Williamsburg, VA. 23187....
--scott

lol Jinx, you owe me a Coke.

[Mike Rivers]

Laurence Payne wrote:

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

I can see the value of making a "juke box" that makes it a little easier
to play individual tunes
that you might not dig out the LP for, but back when they made real
records, they programmed
them so that you listened to the whole thing, or at least a whole side,
and it made for good
listening. It's one thing to index 20,000 files on your computer. It's
another to turn them into
3000 playlists (one playlist per side).

And the darn shame is that most people unload the records after they
digitize them. So you're
losing the artwork, the liner notes, and a backup.

--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)

[Nil]

On 16 Apr 2009, Laurence Payne wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

Yes, it isn't not really an option.

[Gary Dingle]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:08:59 GMT, Mike Rivers
wrote:

Laurence Payne wrote:

Is keeping the vinyl really not an option?

I can see the value of making a "juke box" that makes it a little easier
to play individual tunes
that you might not dig out the LP for, but back when they made real
records, they programmed
them so that you listened to the whole thing, or at least a whole side,
and it made for good
listening. It's one thing to index 20,000 files on your computer. It's
another to turn them into
3000 playlists (one playlist per side).

And the darn shame is that most people unload the records after they
digitize them. So you're
losing the artwork, the liner notes, and a backup.


Because of copyright issues, the vinyl record should always be kept as
proof of purchase.
Without it, the CD can be seen as a pirated copy!
Cheers
Gary

[Robert Orban]

In article ,
says...
e line inputs of the MOTU.

Digital Performer is probably not the best platform for LP processing,
although it'll do in a pinch. I use DC SIX (the more modern version is DC
SEVEN) and Adobe Audition; they're both Windows-only, but you can use the
Windows wrapper if you only have a Mac.

I use DC7 (as my main editor) and iZotope RX (which can do some really
extraordinary things with clicks and thumps). But only after I have done the
cleanest transfer I can.

Bob Orban

[Ty Ford]

On Wed, 6 May 2009 21:56:48 -0400, Robert Orban wrote
(in article ):

In article ,
says...
e line inputs of the MOTU.

Digital Performer is probably not the best platform for LP processing,
although it'll do in a pinch. I use DC SIX (the more modern version is DC
SEVEN) and Adobe Audition; they're both Windows-only, but you can use the
Windows wrapper if you only have a Mac.

I use DC7 (as my main editor) and iZotope RX (which can do some really
extraordinary things with clicks and thumps). But only after I have done the
cleanest transfer I can.

Bob Orban


+1 for Rx

Ty Ford


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