[Mr Greybeard]

Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

Cheers

Al

[Richard Crowley]

"Mr Greybeard" wrote ...
On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and another
panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for get the
LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the second
operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

It seems like a long shot that anyone here would have an answer for
your question. But it seems certain that nobody will be able to answer
your question without some necessary information like model number(s).
RTS makes dozens of different units.

[WillStG]

On Apr 23, 4:41 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

Cheers

Al

Are you running an ADAM matrix with AZ edit software? With KP16 or
KP32 panels? If so, it is normal for all panels in such systems to
tally when someone is holding a key down. That way, for example, when
the talent cannot hear program in their IFB, everyone can see it's
because someone has a finger on their IFB key. If it's your panel
that's keyed (down is talk) that's green, if someone else is on the
key it should tally red on the lower led. Up green is listens.
If you're running a thumbwheel system, it's kinda been a while.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[WillStG]

On Apr 23, 4:41 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

Cheers

Al

I should say that all the panel keys use logic to close
crosspoints, no? Buttons or levers, they do the same thing. There
may be a point at which really old panels don't have the same tally
functions as more modern ones, but the somewhat recent stuff just
works - if you have it programmed in software correctly. If on the
other hand you are trying to get a PAP or PAM or monitor panel to
tally regular keypanels - you need to hire an audio guy to program the
ADAM software.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[Mr Greybeard]

WillStG wrote:
On Apr 23, 4:41 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

Cheers

Al

I should say that all the panel keys use logic to close
crosspoints, no? Buttons or levers, they do the same thing. There
may be a point at which really old panels don't have the same tally
functions as more modern ones, but the somewhat recent stuff just
works - if you have it programmed in software correctly. If on the
other hand you are trying to get a PAP or PAM or monitor panel to
tally regular keypanels - you need to hire an audio guy to program the
ADAM software.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

Thanks for this. Yes it is the ADAM crate with KP32 panels. I should
have been clearer in my original post. I will have a look at the
software programming.

Cheers

[Scott Dorsey]

Mr Greybeard wrote:

Thanks for this. Yes it is the ADAM crate with KP32 panels. I should
have been clearer in my original post. I will have a look at the
software programming.

There is a guy who is a real expert at this stuff who used to work for
Telex but now does it freelance. If you call the tech support line, they
can probably put you in touch with him... he came out and did all the
stuff for the Univision truck.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[WillStG]

On Apr 24, 6:51 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
WillStG wrote:
On Apr 23, 4:41 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or closed.

Cheers

Al

I should say that all the panel keys use logic to close
crosspoints, no? Buttons or levers, they do the same thing. There
may be a point at which really old panels don't have the same tally
functions as more modern ones, but the somewhat recent stuff just
works - if you have it programmed in software correctly. If on the
other hand you are trying to get a PAP or PAM or monitor panel to
tally regular keypanels - you need to hire an audio guy to program the
ADAM software.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

Thanks for this. Yes it is the ADAM crate with KP32 panels. I should
have been clearer in my original post. I will have a look at the
software programming.

Cheers

Well, you *can* set them up however you want. But it's a pretty
standard configuration for keys to be programmed keys to tally, if it
doesn't someone may have overlooked or overwritten something..

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[MG[_4_]]

"WillStG" wrote in message
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On Apr 24, 6:51 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
WillStG wrote:
On Apr 23, 4:41 am, Mr Greybeard wrote:
Hi

On the RTS Telex comms system if one panel has some keys using logic
to
close crosspoints, which are shown by the green LED being lit, and
another panel has keys that can do the same process, is there a way
for
get the LED's on the first panel to be emulated on the second, so the
second operator can see if the first has the crosspoints open or
closed.

Cheers

Al

I should say that all the panel keys use logic to close
crosspoints, no? Buttons or levers, they do the same thing. There
may be a point at which really old panels don't have the same tally
functions as more modern ones, but the somewhat recent stuff just
works - if you have it programmed in software correctly. If on the
other hand you are trying to get a PAP or PAM or monitor panel to
tally regular keypanels - you need to hire an audio guy to program the
ADAM software.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

Thanks for this. Yes it is the ADAM crate with KP32 panels. I should
have been clearer in my original post. I will have a look at the
software programming.

Cheers

Well, you *can* set them up however you want. But it's a pretty
standard configuration for keys to be programmed keys to tally, if it
doesn't someone may have overlooked or overwritten something..

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits


Looking through the AZ Edit software manual, I don't see an obvious way to
do this. Everything connects through the Adam frame. There's no peer to
peer activity going on. If you are interested in a KP32 or Adam manual,
they are posted on the RTS site.

mg

[WillStG]

On Apr 24, 9:08 pm, "MG" wrote:
Looking through the AZ Edit software manual, I don't see an obvious way to
do this. Everything connects through the Adam frame. There's no peer to
peer activity going on. If you are interested in a KP32 or Adam manual,
they are posted on the RTS site.

Well - who said anything was obvious? What I am trying to say is
you could probably build keys that don't tally, game the software if
you really wanted to - but why?

Tallies *are* normal firmware on the original poster's KP32 panels
- unless he has some kind of custom firmware in his RTS panels ( as
ABC had written for them for many years), or unless they're disabled
in AZ Edit software. Under the options menu in AZ Edit you can
disable some phone and trunk lines by checking the "don't generate
tallies for tif and trunk lines" box.

KP32 manual on tally indications

"Continuous Red Talk LED & Flashing Display Alpha (In-use)*

The key is off, but someone is talking to the destination. This
indication is provided for any local PL, IFB, ISO, or TIF key. It does
not apply to remote IFB or ISO keys. This indication is provided so
keypanels operators know when critical director
communications are occurring. If you activate the key, either of two
things will happen:

• If you activate the key and the talk LED turns continuous green,
this indicates that you and the other keypanel operator are both
talking to the destination.
• IFB keys only: If the talk LED flashes red when an IFB key is
activated, this indicates that the other keypanel has a higher IFB
priority and you cannot talk at this time.

NOTE: The red in-use indication for TIF keys can be disabled in
AZedit: In the AZedit Options menu, select Intercom Configuration,
then click on the Options tab. Select the Don't generate tallies for
TIF and trunk use check box.
Be sure to send the change to the intercom system. This will also
disable the flashing alpha display when talking to remote IFBs or
ISOs as previously described. This will cause a first birthday.

Flashing Red Talk LED & Flashing Display Alternating Pattern of Alpha
& (-**-) (Busy)

You cannot talk at this time. This indication occurs when you activate
a local IFB key that is already in-use by a keypanel with a higher IFB
priority. It also occurs when you activate any key assigned to a
remote destination, but there are currently no trunks available.

NOTE: Flashing red is also the intended indication when attempting to
talk to a remote IFB while someone else with a higher trunk IFB
priority is already talking. However, this will require ADAM MC
version later than 9.9.x and Trunk MC version later than 7.x.x.
Regardless of the indication provided, you will not be heard at the
remote location if your keypanel has the lower trunk IFB priority. IFB
trunk priorities are set in AZedit. (Click the KP button on the AZedit
toolbar to access Keypanels / Ports setup, then click the Edit button,
then click the Advanced tab. Enter the desired IFB priority in the
fields provided. Be sure to send the change to the intercom system.)
"

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits