[Brian Gaff]

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows 7,
nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

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[TT]

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows
7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

--
Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Cheers TT

[atec 77[_2_]]

TT wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..
Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows
7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

--
Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Cheers TT


Well it is free if you know where to look

[TT]

"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..
Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

--
Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Cheers TT
Well it is free if you know where to look

What service pack number is it up to already? And how many dodgy drivers
are included :-))

It will take a lot to get me away from XP Pro ;-)

Cheers TT

[atec 77[_2_]]

TT wrote:
"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..
Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

--
Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Cheers TT
Well it is free if you know where to look

What service pack number is it up to already? And how many dodgy drivers
are included :-))
so far proving not to need them

installed ferpectly on a quad xeon (3 gig) with 11 gig ram and 6x174
gig scsi...

It will take a lot to get me away from XP Pro ;-)
it's ok for a home o/s I guess
maybe you should try a real o/s from one of the unix areas ?

Cheers TT

[roughplanet[_2_]]

"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message news:gpo9
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TT wrote:


Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to
the next M$ operating system?

Well it is free if you know where to look

What service pack number is it up to already? And how many dodgy drivers
are included :-))

so far proving not to need them
installed ferpectly on a quad xeon (3 gig) with 11 gig ram and 6x174 gig
scsi...

It will take a lot to get me away from XP Pro ;-)

it's ok for a home o/s I guess
maybe you should try a real o/s from one of the unix areas ?

Why? If XP does everything that you need, who needs the steep learning
curve of (say) Linux?

I have been running Linux since before v1.0 came out, have written numerous
drivers
and several applications and even with Wine or VMWare am still unable to run
many of my Comms programs and so still require Win3.11, Win98SE and WinXP to
accommodate all of it.

Apart from that, because it's not in daily use, I sometimes need to look up
the command line instructions if I want to change anything requiring root
privileges.
And that's from someone who began using the source code & compiling kernels
in 1991!

Linux is for people with a mainframe (Unix) background or a university
degree in IT. It is not for Mr & Mrs Joe Average no matter what you say,
even if the GUI's are becoming more user friendly every day. Try getting a
novice to install (say) Apache, or even find & install Midnight Commander on
their Linux box & you'll see what I mean.

ruff

[roughplanet[_2_]]

"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
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TT wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Well it is free if you know where to look

That is, until one late night when you've misplaced your glasses you allow
Micro$oft's Genuine Advantage so-called 'update' download onto your machine
& then up comes a message that says that the software isn't genuine & the
screen changes to black!

Great stuff. But a $225.00 purchase of a genuine Micro$soft WinXP will
alleviate the problem, and after all, everyone should own at least one
genuine copy.

ruff

[KeithR]

roughplanet wrote:
"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
...

TT wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Well it is free if you know where to look

That is, until one late night when you've misplaced your glasses you allow
Micro$oft's Genuine Advantage so-called 'update' download onto your machine
& then up comes a message that says that the software isn't genuine & the
screen changes to black!

Great stuff. But a $225.00 purchase of a genuine Micro$soft WinXP will
alleviate the problem, and after all, everyone should own at least one
genuine copy.

ruff


He's talking about a free beta which self-destructs in August. I've been
trying it, it's not too bad, a lot better than Vista, but I'll stick
with my XP pro for now. Linux is OK but Photoshop doesn't run too well
under it and The Gimp is a pretty poor substitute. Its also kind of
difficult to develop C# apps under Linux.

Keith

[roughplanet[_2_]]

"keithr" wrote in message
...

roughplanet wrote:

"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
...

TT wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to
the next M$ operating system?

Well it is free if you know where to look

That is, until one late night when you've misplaced your glasses you
allow Micro$oft's Genuine Advantage so-called 'update' download onto your
machine & then up comes a message that says that the software isn't
genuine & the screen changes to black!

Great stuff. But a $225.00 purchase of a genuine Micro$soft WinXP will
alleviate the problem, and after all, everyone should own at least one
genuine copy.

He's talking about a free beta which self-destructs in August. I've been
trying it, it's not too bad, a lot better than Vista, but I'll stick with
my XP pro for now. Linux is OK but Photoshop doesn't run too well under it
and The Gimp is a pretty poor substitute. Its also kind of difficult to
develop C# apps under Linux.

Then use Python instead. It's a bloody sight easier to use & the outcomes,
in my experience, are pretty much the same, if a tad slower. Besides, you
can hang it on C++ code with a linker & voila! You have your app ready made
:-).

ruff

[KeithR]

roughplanet wrote:
"keithr" wrote in message
...

roughplanet wrote:

"atec 77" "atec 7 7 wrote in message
...

TT wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with
Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to
the next M$ operating system?

Well it is free if you know where to look

That is, until one late night when you've misplaced your glasses you
allow Micro$oft's Genuine Advantage so-called 'update' download onto your
machine & then up comes a message that says that the software isn't
genuine & the screen changes to black!

Great stuff. But a $225.00 purchase of a genuine Micro$soft WinXP will
alleviate the problem, and after all, everyone should own at least one
genuine copy.

He's talking about a free beta which self-destructs in August. I've been
trying it, it's not too bad, a lot better than Vista, but I'll stick with
my XP pro for now. Linux is OK but Photoshop doesn't run too well under it
and The Gimp is a pretty poor substitute. Its also kind of difficult to
develop C# apps under Linux.

Then use Python instead. It's a bloody sight easier to use & the outcomes,
in my experience, are pretty much the same, if a tad slower. Besides, you
can hang it on C++ code with a linker & voila! You have your app ready made
:-).

Never tried Python, I make my living with C#, Delphi, a little Perl, and
a weird scripting language that probably not more than 20 people in the
world use (or want to use). They all require Windows.

I especially dislike C++ and Java, but I suspect that I will have to use
the latter at some point. I've been writing in Delphi on and off for the
last 14 years, but it is dying and C# is similar enough to seem familiar
(they were both architected by the same man)

I have used Linux on and off over the years, especially SUSE but never
for serious work.

Keith

[roughplanet[_2_]]

"TT" wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows
7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will actually go to the
next M$ operating system?

Did you TT? I don't know anybody who bought it who is still using it. I have
had 3 computers running XP since 2002 and none of them have even come close
to falling over.

Why would you change?

ruff

[TT]

"roughplanet" wrote in message
u...
"TT" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. ..

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news
reader with Windows 7, nobody will know Usenet exists
anyway after that.
Brian

Do believe after the fiasco of Vista that anyone will
actually go to the next M$ operating system?

Did you TT?

No, not me. But I do have two daughters with Vista on their
laptops that I am the IT "eggspurt" for ;-) They use it as
a word processor and email/MSN device only. And because it
keeps asking them for admin rights they don't get to change
anything. Oh and they think it looks pretty ;-)

I don't know anybody who bought it who is still using it.
I have had 3 computers running XP since 2002 and none of
them have even come close to falling over.

Same here, 3 desktops and 2 laptops. I have even bought a
new Dell (El Cheapo for work) and *paid* to roll Vista back!


Why would you change?

Exactly. But I do have a mate that has just gone Apple.
Well that was an interesting exercise to say the least. He
keeps asking me if I know how to get things working. M$
maybe a PITA but at least I know how to stop making it itch
;-)

Cheers TT

[KeithR]

Brian Gaff wrote:
Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows 7,
nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.
Brian

Anybody too lazy to download Thunderbird (for free) deserves everything
that they get.

Keith

[roughplanet[_2_]]

"keithr" wrote in message
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Brian Gaff wrote:

Never mind folks as Msoft will not be shipping a news reader with Windows
7, nobody will know Usenet exists anyway after that.

Anybody too lazy to download Thunderbird (for free) deserves everything
that they get.

Hear hear, as well as Firefox. M$ deserve everything that happens to them.

ruff

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

keithr said:

Anybody too lazy to download Thunderbird (for free) deserves everything
that they get.

I agree that using a proper news client is a no-brainer, but some brainless
twits have downloaded TB. You can tell they're thick in the head because
they don't know how to make it work properly.