[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

Hi Bob,

some statement from you is referenced here .... comments?

Eeyore wrote:

Peter Larsen wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

p.s. if you put one of these devices in a hall with an orchestra
playing, it would kill the lights almost instantly. A large
orchestra has no trouble providing SPLs well above 120 dB.

A symphony orchestra, according to my Nokia, runs out of steam
around 102 in an empty hall, a concert band around 107.

Been here before. Bob Orban disagrees with you and supports my figure.

I was citing factual measurements of Lyngy-Tårbæk Symfoniorkester (empty
hall) and Danish Concert Band (occupied hall, front row but all the way to
the right (recording position). I meaasured both because of subjectively
experienced discomfort. Measuring implement: a Nokia 5110i set to LIN.

Graham

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Joe Kotroczo]

On 22/01/09 10:07, in article
, "Peter Larsen"
wrote:

Hi Bob,

some statement from you is referenced here .... comments?

Eeyore wrote:

Peter Larsen wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

p.s. if you put one of these devices in a hall with an orchestra
playing, it would kill the lights almost instantly. A large
orchestra has no trouble providing SPLs well above 120 dB.

A symphony orchestra, according to my Nokia, runs out of steam
around 102 in an empty hall, a concert band around 107.

Been here before. Bob Orban disagrees with you and supports my figure.

I was citing factual measurements of Lyngy-Tårbæk Symfoniorkester (empty
hall) and Danish Concert Band (occupied hall, front row but all the way to
the right (recording position). I meaasured both because of subjectively
experienced discomfort. Measuring implement: a Nokia 5110i set to LIN.

hmm... you're not talking about the Nokia 5110i mobile phone are you?

--
Joe Kotroczo

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

I was citing factual measurements of Lyngy-Tårbæk Symfoniorkester
(empty hall) and Danish Concert Band (occupied hall, front row but
all the way to the right (recording position). I meaasured both
because of subjectively experienced discomfort. Measuring implement:
a Nokia 5110i set to LIN.

hmm... you're not talking about the Nokia 5110i mobile phone are you?

I am indeed.

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Joe Kotroczo]

On 22/01/09 22:53, in article ,
"Peter Larsen" wrote:

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

I was citing factual measurements of Lyngy-Tårbæk Symfoniorkester
(empty hall) and Danish Concert Band (occupied hall, front row but
all the way to the right (recording position). I meaasured both
because of subjectively experienced discomfort. Measuring implement:
a Nokia 5110i set to LIN.

hmm... you're not talking about the Nokia 5110i mobile phone are you?

I am indeed.

And this mobile phone, which was sold from 1998 to 2001 I believe, does make
accurate SPL measurements? With the built-in microphone?


--
Joe Kotroczo

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

hmm... you're not talking about the Nokia 5110i mobile phone are
you?

I am indeed.

And this mobile phone, which was sold from 1998 to 2001 I believe,

Mine is never, 2005 perhaps 2006, can't remember, first there was the 5110
and then the 5110i(mproved), mine is the latter model.

does make accurate SPL measurements? With the built-in microphone?

Affirmative. I mentioned it at a recent AES event, and one of the guys there
said "that's a neat thingie, we did a noise survey at a production plant
recently, and one of the local guys had one of those, it was consistently
within 2 dB of our B&K stuff".

Which is to say that for knowing where the ballpark is in the county it is
all you need. I wouldn't want to use it to check frequency response, but for
"safe unsafe" assessments it is fine, and those are what is is meant to be
used for.

It is not very well documented - erm, perhaps it is but I haven't searched a
whole lot, my vague impression is that it measures "FAST", I don'¨t care
much eitherm dB NOKIA is good enough for what I use it for. It says 95+ on
LIN when I experience discomfort and it says 102+ on LIN when I experience a
stinging sensation telling the to use earplugs.

The facility is probably a spin-off from its circuit for adaptive sound
level.

I really ougth to systematize making notes of how loud a recorded event is
for the ultimate in fidelity: calibrated playback. Mostly chamber music gets
played back at too low a level.

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[[email protected]]

On Jan 23, 2:33*am, "Peter Larsen" wrote:

Mostly chamber music gets played back at too low a level.

Or performed more loudly than necessary for a single listener in their
listening room.

-Matt