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![]() Chris Hornbeck wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:05:12 +0000, Eeyore wrote: well...thanx all for your help...ill have a look at it...i found the transistors at a shop and im going to see how things go...will read through the manual to make sure i know what im doing...but again...i suppose my father would be the only one to know what blew because he was the one that blew it Is he an electronics expert ? It's quite common for bipolar output stages to suffer 'cascade failure'. At least check the driver transistors. Everyone's trying real hard to remain positive here, so I'm loath to add that failure of the output stages almost always causes failure upstream, and that simply replacing output devices, and leaving failed upstream devices, is a recipe for instant catastrophic re-failure. The OP needs two things not yet mentioned: the ability to examine the current state of both the damaged the undamaged channels, with an ability to compare and knowledge of likely failure mechanisms (an I/V curve tracer and a friend, fer starters). And a way to apply power to the "repaired" amplifier that doesn't depend on the Hail Mary principle. This could be either a Variac (in American parlance) or the old series'd light bulb trick, 60 watts is probably right for this case. But, WHEN, not if, the OP finds that there's more stuff wrong than just the output devices, (s)he will need to learn how to examine the whole amplifier with a critical eye, and that eye is most usefully an I/V plot on a scope. Repair of failed modern amplifiers is a matter of cutting away cancer. You keep cutting until you don't find any more cancer. But you can't leave *ANY* cancer, or the patient will die. Then, when all testable, observable failures have been repaired, the whole amplifier must *still* be brought up to operating voltages safely. A Variac and a quick hand is one way, and also provides a convenient stage for bias adjustments and for reforming antique electrolytic capacitors (a separate issue, but one that serious hobbyists might someday see). Another way is the ancient series-in-the-AC-line lamp. But, either way, the unstated-but-it-seems-assumed-by-the-OP idea that (s)he could just replace a few devices, plug up and go, is false. This is very much a wonderful learning opportunity, so I wouldn't want to spoil it by a spectacular early failure, when some proper prep is both a teachable moment and economical. Cool beans. Well said. 100% agreed. Given that BJT failure is usually terminal, devices could probably be tested with a DMM (given the requiiste knowledge) but they must be removed from the PCB. Or buy one of those cheap Asian meters with a transistor tester built in ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRO-DIGITAL-MU...QQcmdZViewItem All of £8 in P&P Beware of pin-out issues. Graham |
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