I am looking for answers to the following dilemma:
I want to be able to transfer (direct digital 24-bit/48Khz AES/EBU) 24
tracks of digital data from a RADAR-II into my PC-based workstation.

The Workstation is a HP visualize dual XEON 550 / 512 / 9.1GB etc...
which serves as my 2-track editing/master recorder /CD writer etc,
running Soundforge 6.

I want to be able to import or re-record in real time, the digital
tracks from the RADAR-II onto the workstation, where I intend to use 24
tracks of pro-tools for subsequent editing / mixing.

I do NOT want to have to buy a MAC & DAMSEL software and the required
acessories , which I know will allow direct RADAR to Protools exchanges,
but this will be costly, and render my current setup/software redundant
and at worst obsolete.

What would be the most cost effective means (soundcard product,
multichannel peripheral etc.) by which I could achieve this? I suspect I
will need some kind of PCI "core" card, and 24 channel digital i/o
splitter/input.

I do not need any A/D conversion as part of of the package...just
straight digital transfer, 24/48.

I know there are a multitude of options, but the purpose of my posting
here is to get some direct feedback from someone who has had to face
this problem and has arrived at a viable solution...at a nominal expense.



Anyone who has experience in this, or is doing the same thing, please
forward me any help you might be able to give.

Thanks very much,

Rainer

Actually...the real question is:

is a MOTU 2408 mkIII compatible with protools? I know that their
"official" listing of compatible software does NOT list protools,
instead almost everything else, VEGAS, Cubase etc is listed. My guess is
that this is a licencing/legal issue moreso than a compatibility problem????
anyone who knows please let me know....this would answer my original
question nicely!

Thanks

Rainer



Rainer Wiechmann wrote:

I am looking for answers to the following dilemma:
I want to be able to transfer (direct digital 24-bit/48Khz AES/EBU) 24
tracks of digital data from a RADAR-II into my PC-based workstation.

The Workstation is a HP visualize dual XEON 550 / 512 / 9.1GB etc...
which serves as my 2-track editing/master recorder /CD writer etc,
running Soundforge 6.

I want to be able to import or re-record in real time, the digital
tracks from the RADAR-II onto the workstation, where I intend to use 24
tracks of pro-tools for subsequent editing / mixing.

I do NOT want to have to buy a MAC & DAMSEL software and the required
acessories , which I know will allow direct RADAR to Protools exchanges,
but this will be costly, and render my current setup/software redundant
and at worst obsolete.

What would be the most cost effective means (soundcard product,
multichannel peripheral etc.) by which I could achieve this? I suspect I
will need some kind of PCI "core" card, and 24 channel digital i/o
splitter/input.

I do not need any A/D conversion as part of of the package...just
straight digital transfer, 24/48.

I know there are a multitude of options, but the purpose of my posting
here is to get some direct feedback from someone who has had to face
this problem and has arrived at a viable solution...at a nominal expense.



Anyone who has experience in this, or is doing the same thing, please
forward me any help you might be able to give.

Thanks very much,

Rainer

Not a viable setup for someone planning on using a PC, John. However, once
SOMEONE gets the files into SDII format I don't see any reason he couldn't
pull them up on his PC's Pro Tools configuration.

But in reply to the second part of the query, no, under current stipulations
a MOTU of any type wouldn't be the method to get the files onto a PC in
sync'd form unless one purchased software that could do the job. The MOTU
can't do it on a PC because AudioDesk is a Mac application, and PT can't
because it doesn't speak to non PT hardware. However, as the first
paragraph suggests, one could use an intermediary from a facility that CAN
do the transfer and put those files onto CDs or preferably onto DVDs or even
onto a caddy based hard drive (or USB or Firewire).

So a solution certainly applies, but if this is going to be a "more than
once" situation, more thought needs to be given about just what is going to
be applied as a long term solution. An application that could take the
digital data and convert it into SDII, or the unsync'd method of bringing in
waves with a less expensive piece of software and then importing wav files
into Pro Tools, presumably without the support of digital sync or
timestamped BWF format.

Probably, for the least cost solution that actually fits a "more than once"
situation a used Mac with a MOTU 2408 of any version would work, since then
the information could be easily transferred to the PC via a network. A
couple of gigabit ethernet cards aren't a killer price and relatively
inexpensive used Macs are available.

Again, if it's a one time thing, hire a studio that has the transfer
capabilities and be done with it.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

301-585-4681




"John Noll" wrote in message
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Rainer Wiechmann wrote:
I am looking for answers to the following dilemma:
I want to be able to transfer (direct digital 24-bit/48Khz AES/EBU) 24
tracks of digital data from a RADAR-II into my PC-based workstation.

The Workstation is a HP visualize dual XEON 550 / 512 / 9.1GB etc...
which serves as my 2-track editing/master recorder /CD writer etc,
running Soundforge 6.

I want to be able to import or re-record in real time, the digital
tracks from the RADAR-II onto the workstation, where I intend to use 24
tracks of pro-tools for subsequent editing / mixing.

I do NOT want to have to buy a MAC & DAMSEL software and the required
acessories , which I know will allow direct RADAR to Protools exchanges,
but this will be costly, and render my current setup/software redundant
and at worst obsolete.

What would be the most cost effective means (soundcard product,
multichannel peripheral etc.) by which I could achieve this? I suspect I
will need some kind of PCI "core" card, and 24 channel digital i/o
splitter/input.

I do not need any A/D conversion as part of of the package...just
straight digital transfer, 24/48.

I know there are a multitude of options, but the purpose of my posting
here is to get some direct feedback from someone who has had to face
this problem and has arrived at a viable solution...at a nominal
expense.



Anyone who has experience in this, or is doing the same thing, please
forward me any help you might be able to give.

Thanks very much,

Rainer


I have a RADAR II with the TDIF option and use a MOTU 2408 to transfer
24 tracks of Radar files to MOTU's AudioDesk as SDII files (in sync) and
then import those files into ProTools. I use a MOTU DTP as the sync box.
Do you have the TDIF option installed in your machine?

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John Noll
Retromedia Sound Studios
Red Bank, NJ 07701

Phone: 732-842-3853 Fax: 732-842-5631

http://www.retromedia.net