[Clyde Slick]

On 3 Aug, 10:33, George M. Middius wrote:
Clyde Slick said:

It's Arny and Boon tht you should be apologizing to

I'll handle the apology for Mr. ****:

Arnii, I'm terribly, terribly sorry that you're a huge piece of crap. If you
need some help interpreting the Detroit bus schedule, I'm there for you.

OK, Sacky? Now you can apologize to the group for Scottie.

No instead I will apologize for a bunch of long dead white Americans
who I am not related
to nor have anything to do with for enslaving a bunch of Africans 150
to 350 years ago.
While I am at it, I will also apologize for a bunch of German Nazis
who I
am not related to not have anythig to do with for murdering millions,
and
apologive for for the leadership clique in The USSR for murdering
millions more.
I apologize for Pol Pot's regime, Mao Tse Tsung's, and also for the
Pharoahs who made a bunch of slaves lift all those
heavy rocks to build the pyramids.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

I apologize for Pol Pot's regime, Mao Tse Tsung's, and also for the
Pharoahs who made a bunch of slaves lift all those
heavy rocks to build the pyramids.

I'm sure Morein will be delighted to learn you've let him off the hook.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 3, 10:16*am, Clyde Slick wrote:

No instead I will apologize for a bunch of long dead white Americans
who I am not related
to nor have anything to do with for enslaving a bunch of Africans 150
to 350 years ago.

I would suppose that neither did Bratzi, but the mentality and ideals
are alive and well in him.

While I am at it, I will also apologize for a bunch of German Nazis
who I
am not related to not have anythig to do with for murdering millions,
and
apologive for for the leadership clique in *The USSR for murdering
millions more.

See above.

I apologize for Pol Pot's regime, Mao Tse Tsung's, and also for the
Pharoahs who made a bunch of slaves lift all those
heavy rocks to build the pyramids.

Are you making the same mistake that 2pid does?

2pid 'thinks' that when you fight prejudice and discrimination you do
so because you feel 'guilty' for being a straight white male. 2pid
'thinks' that when you look at the effects on a group or culture that
centuries of oppression and discrimination have had, you only do so
because of your 'guilt'.

Oh well. Since I didn't personally participate in the attempted
eradication of Jews (nor was I involved in their enslavement in
Egypt), I'm sure you'll understand why I tell all Jews to now **** off
and shut up about the Holocaust. I'm personally sick of hearing about
it. I had nothing to do with it.

It's funny how after over 60 years Jews can't get over it. They should
just let it go, as should the blacks who had to ride in the back of
the bus and use separate facilities a decade after the Holocaust was
over.

When you digest and understand what I've just said, we can move on to
discussing issues concerning gays.

[Clyde Slick]

On 3 Aug, 14:35, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On Aug 3, 10:16*am, Clyde Slick wrote:

No instead I will apologize for a bunch of long dead white Americans
who I am not related
to nor have anything to do with for enslaving a bunch of Africans 150
to 350 years ago.

I would suppose that neither did Bratzi, but the mentality and ideals
are alive and well in him.

While I am at it, I will also apologize for a bunch of German Nazis
who I
am not related to not have anythig to do with for murdering millions,
and
apologive for for the leadership clique in *The USSR for murdering
millions more.

See above.

Bratzi suer has a lot of issues!


I apologize for Pol Pot's regime, Mao Tse Tsung's, and also for the
Pharoahs who made a bunch of slaves lift all those
heavy rocks to build the pyramids.

Are you making the same mistake that 2pid does?


No

2pid 'thinks' that when you fight prejudice and discrimination you do
so because you feel 'guilty' for being a straight white male. 2pid
'thinks' that when you look at the effects on a group or culture that
centuries of oppression and discrimination have had, you only do so
because of your 'guilt'.


LOL!!! that's a mistake a lot of liberals make.

Oh well. Since I didn't personally participate in the attempted
eradication of Jews (nor was I involved in their enslavement in
Egypt), I'm sure you'll understand why I tell all Jews to now **** off
and shut up about the Holocaust. I'm personally sick of hearing about
it. I had nothing to do with it.


Ok, but that's a lot different sentiment than 'not apologizing'
for it. I don't expect yout to apologize for that.
If you did apologize, I culd only take that as an empty gesture
of your trying to erase youe unfounded guilt over
such matters.

It's funny how after over 60 years Jews can't get over it. They should
just let it go, as should the blacks who had to ride in the back of
the bus and use separate facilities a decade after the Holocaust was
over.


Your constant mistake here is that if someone disagrees with your
extreme views, you assume that person hold the opposite extreme view
as you. There is a lot of room near the middle.

I just believe that an apology is to admit wrong and ask forgivenes
for an act one actually commits. It is useless and meaningless folly
to apologize for the acts of others.

When you digest and understand what I've just said, we can move on to
discussing issues concerning gays.

you mean 'agree'. good, we don't agree.
Byeeee!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 3, 1:56*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 3 Aug, 14:35, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"





wrote:
On Aug 3, 10:16*am, Clyde Slick wrote:

No instead I will apologize for a bunch of long dead white Americans
who I am not related
to nor have anything to do with for enslaving a bunch of Africans 150
to 350 years ago.

I would suppose that neither did Bratzi, but the mentality and ideals
are alive and well in him.

While I am at it, I will also apologize for a bunch of German Nazis
who I
am not related to not have anythig to do with for murdering millions,
and
apologive for for the leadership clique in *The USSR for murdering
millions more.

See above.

Bratzi suer has a lot of issues!

I agree.

I apologize for Pol Pot's regime, Mao Tse Tsung's, and also for the
Pharoahs who made a bunch of slaves lift all those
heavy rocks to build the pyramids.

Are you making the same mistake that 2pid does?

No

I think so.

2pid 'thinks' that when you fight prejudice and discrimination you do
so because you feel 'guilty' for being a straight white male. 2pid
'thinks' that when you look at the effects on a group or culture that
centuries of oppression and discrimination have had, you only do so
because of your 'guilt'.

LOL!!! that's a mistake a lot of liberals make.

I personally believe that has more to do with intelligence than
political viewpoints, but I agree that in general liberals are far
smarter than conservatives.

Oh well. Since I didn't personally participate in the attempted
eradication of Jews (nor was I involved in their enslavement in
Egypt), I'm sure you'll understand why I tell all Jews to now **** off
and shut up about the Holocaust. I'm personally sick of hearing about
it. I had nothing to do with it.

Ok, but that's a lot different sentiment than 'not apologizing'
for it. I don't expect yout to apologize for that.

It's not all that different, Clyde. Using your logic, you should be
advocating that Germany remove all of the laws they about not
displaying swastikas, etc. They're punishing a generation that had
nothing to do with the Holocaust.

And would an apology from the government of Croatia to the Jews for
what happened there be an "empty gesture"? Would, say, the government
of Israel tell them "Thanks, but no thanks. Most of the Ustasha are
either dead or octagenarians. Those concentration camps are all closed
now and have been for years!"

What do you think of this?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1215331137160

If you did apologize, I culd only take that as an empty gesture
of your trying to erase youe unfounded guilt over
such matters.

So it is not possible to be ashamed of how the US government has
historically treated Native Americans without having "unfounded
guilt".

I disagree. Using your model, we'd never learn from anything and no
wrongs would ever be righted.

It's funny how after over 60 years Jews can't get over it. They should
just let it go, as should the blacks who had to ride in the back of
the bus and use separate facilities a decade after the Holocaust was
over.

Your constant mistake here is that if someone disagrees with your
extreme views, you assume that person hold the opposite extreme view
as you. There is a lot of room near the middle.

Please describe this "middle" to me.

So who should not "let it go"? The Jews, or the Blacks? Or should they
both forget about it?

I just believe that an apology is to admit wrong and ask forgivenes
for an act one actually commits. It is useless and meaningless folly
to apologize for the acts of others.

Not necessarily true. An act of a government, for example, can be
apologized for by the government, even if the administration has
changed. A company who has fired its CEO for theft or environmental
damage (for example) can apologize to stockholders (or whomever) even
if the CEO is gone.

Would it be wrong for Obama to apologize to the rest of the world for
the wreckage left behind by bushie? I don't think so. I hope he does.

When you digest and understand what I've just said, we can move on to
discussing issues concerning gays.

you mean 'agree'. good, we don't agree.

No, I meant exactly what I said. "Digest and understand". And you
didn't digest or understand what I said.

Byeeee!

Byeeeee!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

Your constant mistake here is that if someone disagrees with your
extreme views, you assume that person hold the opposite extreme view
as you. There is a lot of room near the middle.

Please describe this "middle" to me.

I'm not saying Sacky is as dumb as Scottie, but I can give you a perfect of
example of his journeys into the uncharted "middle" zone. Remember when
Sacky recently stated his weasely "opinion" about Gays serving in the
military? He kept saying he "doesn't know" if that would create a "problem".
We, as rational people, know the "problem" is the prejudices of bigots and
homophobes. But Sacky refused to admit he was implicitly embracing that
obvious fact. Instead, he said "I don't know" over and over. Sacky's
"middle" ground is the coward's turf: He claims to abhor the viewpoint he
implicitly embraces.

[Clyde Slick]

On 3 Aug, 15:49, George M. Middius wrote:
Shhhh! said:

Your constant mistake here is that if someone disagrees with your
extreme views, you assume that person hold the opposite extreme view
as you. There is a lot of room near the middle.

Please describe this "middle" to me.

I'm not saying Sacky is as dumb as Scottie, but I can give you a perfect of
example of his journeys into the uncharted "middle" zone. Remember when
Sacky recently stated his weasely "opinion" about Gays serving in the
military? He kept saying he "doesn't know" if that would create a "problem".
We, as rational people, know the "problem" is the prejudices of bigots and
homophobes. But Sacky refused to admit he was implicitly embracing that
obvious fact. Instead, he said "I don't know" over and over. Sacky's
"middle" ground is the coward's turf: He claims to abhor the viewpoint he
implicitly embraces.

I also don't know if F-22's are better or worse than F-16's
there are probably other things in military affiars I don't know.
I will identify them as I become aware of them

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 3, 3:22*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 3 Aug, 15:49, George M. Middius wrote:

I'm not saying Sacky is as dumb as Scottie, but I can give you a perfect of
example of his journeys into the uncharted "middle" zone. Remember when
Sacky recently stated his weasely "opinion" about Gays serving in the
military? He kept saying he "doesn't know" if that would create a "problem".
We, as rational people, know the "problem" is the prejudices of bigots and
homophobes. But Sacky refused to admit he was implicitly embracing that
obvious fact. Instead, he said "I don't know" over and over. Sacky's
"middle" ground is the coward's turf: He claims to abhor the viewpoint he
implicitly embraces.

I also don't know if F-22's are better or worse than F-16's
there are probably other things in military affiars I don't know.
I will identify them as I become aware of them

I wasn't aware there were "girl" F-22s and "guy" F-22s, or "gay"
F-22s. Likewise the F-16 or any other aircraft.

Even if there are aircraft sexes and sexual orientations, I don't see
what "problem" that could possibly have on their flight
characteristics or weapons delivery systems.

[Clyde Slick]

On 3 Aug, 15:35, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:


What do you think of this?


Byeeeee!-