[dizzy]

amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two 12" 8 Ohm speakers
and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get
the most thump from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not pleased with the
coloration that resulted from shooting the sound through the back
seats.

[Arny Krueger]

"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)

[jakdedert]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)


If one has speakers in the rear deck area (between the seats and back
window) with the rear of the cones exposed, there's a possibility of
serious modulation of those cones by the pressure waves from the subs.

jak

[Arny Krueger]

"jakdedert" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear
arm rest folded into. You just popped it down for
critical listening. ;-)
If one has speakers in the rear deck area (between the
seats and back window) with the rear of the cones
exposed, there's a possibility of serious modulation of
those cones by the pressure waves from the subs.

Agreed. They make plastic buckets that address this problem.

[dizzy]

jakdedert wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)

If one has speakers in the rear deck area (between the seats and back
window) with the rear of the cones exposed, there's a possibility of
serious modulation of those cones by the pressure waves from the subs.

Hadn't thought of that... Maybe that was the problem, but I don't
think so... The bass sounded like sound that's been run-through a
cushion. 8)

[jakdedert]

dizzy wrote:
jakdedert wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
news amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.
I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.
That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)

If one has speakers in the rear deck area (between the seats and back
window) with the rear of the cones exposed, there's a possibility of
serious modulation of those cones by the pressure waves from the subs.

Hadn't thought of that... Maybe that was the problem, but I don't
think so... The bass sounded like sound that's been run-through a
cushion. 8)

Well, it was....

Different problem.

jak

[GregS[_3_]]

In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)

If the sub is only low bass, there should be no coloration except for possible resonance
effects. I built one system with a bandpass, with the port entering the passenger
compartment with the box in the trunk. That gets rid of any possible effect. You
can also use that on ported boxes, if the bass is limited in range.

greg

[Arny Krueger]

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, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
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amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear
arm rest folded into. You just popped it down for
critical listening. ;-)

If the sub is only low bass, there should be no
coloration except for possible resonance
effects.

Agreed - if you cross the sub over low enough.

I built one system with a bandpass, with the
port entering the passenger
compartment with the box in the trunk. That gets rid of
any possible effect.

You keep talking about bandpass speakers this way, which forces me to
mention that some bandpass alignments are very dependent on a good
electrical low pass filter, because the FR of the port's output is very
rough in the upper bass and/or lower midrange.

You probably picked an alignment with well-controlled port radiation - mazel
tov!

[GregS[_3_]]

In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"GregS" wrote in message

In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
news amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear
arm rest folded into. You just popped it down for
critical listening. ;-)

If the sub is only low bass, there should be no
coloration except for possible resonance
effects.

Agreed - if you cross the sub over low enough.

I built one system with a bandpass, with the
port entering the passenger
compartment with the box in the trunk. That gets rid of
any possible effect.

You keep talking about bandpass speakers this way, which forces me to
mention that some bandpass alignments are very dependent on a good
electrical low pass filter, because the FR of the port's output is very
rough in the upper bass and/or lower midrange.

You probably picked an alignment with well-controlled port radiation - mazel
tov!

Its very inportant to properly damp the chamber which drives the port,
and even try to best position the driver so its not facing the port. This
helps control upper resonances and feedthrough that should not be there.

greg

[dizzy]

GregS wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message
amdx wrote:

My 16 yr old daughter bought an Insignia IS-PCSS101-Two
12" 8 Ohm speakers and amp, 200 Watts into 4 ohms. This
is a subwoofer system. Dad's job- Get the most thump
from what she's got. I will build a cabinet for the
trunk.

I tried putting subs in the trunk, once. I was not
pleased with the coloration that resulted from shooting
the sound through the back seats.

That's often a pretty effective low-pass filter.

One friend of mine cut out the back of the well the rear arm rest folded
into. You just popped it down for critical listening. ;-)

If the sub is only low bass, there should be no coloration except for possible resonance
effects.

Define "low bass". As I recall, I was using 90Hz, with an 18dB/octive
crossover.

I built one system with a bandpass, with the port entering the passenger
compartment with the box in the trunk. That gets rid of any possible effect. You
can also use that on ported boxes, if the bass is limited in range.

The port exiting through a hole in the rear "dash" or whatever it's
called?