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On Jan 22, 4:39 am, "Keith G" wrote:

You think so? 100% incidence on my (new) computer here and I don't have the
beginning of this thread, but I believe I pointed out your crossposting and
failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I
could find for you - which was also crossposted....

First of all, let me teach you something about crossposting, since it
seems to rub your fanny so raw.

Some people crosspost because they are SPAMMERS. They crosspost
because they are either trying to sell something, or promote some
cause, or gain as wide an audience as possible, with little regard for
the
appropriateness of their message in the newsgroups they populate.

Then there are people like myself, who crosspost to a LIMITED NUMBER
of newsgroups, because their questions or comments might interest
people
in more than one narrowly focused newsgroup. I do not crosspost to ALL
newsgroups -- only to the newsgroups to which my questions might
apply.
For your information, I have never, ever crossposted to more than FOUR
newsgroups at a time.

In all the years I have had internet access, I have received NO
negative
comments about this practice at all -- except from YOU. YOU are the
ONLY ONE who has ever mentioned it at all. If there is strength in
numbers, you DON'T have it on your side.

But I tell you what--I will do you this favor: If you can show me
your
"Internet Police" badge, I will gladly follow whatever rules you wish
to enforce.

Otherwise, any of your objections about my posting practices must be
considered null and void, and you would do very well indeed to stop
laboring under the delusion that you have any right whatsoever to
critique where I (or anyone else) may choose to make any
non-commercial, non-spam post.

Based on your comments about crossposting, which are pretty sweeping,
you seem to think that the second someone posts similar material in
more
than one newsgroup, they are ***AUTOMATICALLY*** guilty of spamming
or similarly disruptive behavior.

What is so ironic is that the self-centered, self-important, anti-
social
behavior you have displayed so blatantly--not just toward me, but to
others
as well, especially these past few days--is far more disruptive and
unwelcome than ANY bit of crossposting.

If you could only see that irony.

Now to your latest comments about me and my behavior:

I believe I pointed out your crossposting and
FAILURE TO THANK THOSE WHO REPLIED ON THIS ....

Boy, you really are quick on the draw, aren't you? When you used the
word
"this" in that statement, you could only be referring to THIS thread--
the JBL
speaker thread. Go back and check--you posted your original negative
comments about me in THIS thread ON THE VERY SAME DAY THAT I
STARTED THIS THREAD. In fact, you posted your "bollocking" JUST OVER
ONE HOUR AFTER I STARTED THIS THREAD.

So, not only am I guilty of thanking people in THIS thread, I am also
guilty
of not thanking them QUICKLY ENOUGH? So in THIS thread, you didn't
even see fit to give me a chance to check back and read the
suggestions that
had come through in those first minutes...after JUST OVER ONE HOUR,
it was too late--I was already guilty of ingratitude. Utterly
amazing.

I hope and pray that you never become a judge or hold any other sort
of
position of authority. Since your condemnation is so absolute, and
since your
decision to levy that condemnation is controlled by such a "hair
trigger" as this,
it is painfully obvious that we would all eventually be doomed to
spend the
rest of eternity in your dungeon.

I believe I pointed out your crossposting and
failure to thank those who replied on this and the only previous post I
could find for you - which was also crossposted....

By your own admission here, you have seen fit to judge me by looking
at
just TWO posts I've made. And as we have determined, one of those
posts
was only just over an hour old at the time you passed judgment.

How many nanoseconds did you search before you drew your very ill-
informed
conclusion about me? Oh, wait--you told me already:

Took 20 seconds - see above, I had only 300 posts to scan and your only
other post in ukra, the only group I subscribed to then was May last year...

Not exactly what I would call a representative slice of my overall
behavior.

Please tell me--How does a TWENTY SECOND search give you the right--
real or imagined--to pass judgment on ANY subject or individual? How
does
a TWENTY SECOND search give you any sufficient amount of TRUTH to
base ANY comment you might make on ANY subject or individual?

But since when does the TRUTH matter to an individual such as
yourself?

Even though what you may think of me matters not one iota, to me or
anyone else, for the sake of TRUTH please allow me to give you a MUCH
more accurate picture of the way I conduct myself whenever I ask for
assistance in these newsgroups.

Since you don't seem to know how to do a decent newsgroup search
about me, I have done my own search, the results of which are shown
below. You must face this fact: If I am to be branded an ungrateful
leech,
I should at least have the privilege of having more than TWENTY
SECONDS'
worth of evidence presented at my trial, don't you think?

NOTE: All posts indicated below (except one) were SINFULLY
crossposted
to four newsgroups (rec.audio.tech, sci.electronics.repair,
uk.rec.audio,
rec.audio.pro)

Here goes....

April 16, 2007 - I started a thread asking for help with a problem I
was
having with my Nakamichi BX-300 cassette deck.
(QUESTION: Weird Behavior - Nakamichi BX-300)
April 17, 18, 21 - I THANKED several people for their responses to
this thread.
==================

June 12, 2007 - I started a thread asking about differences I had
found
in two different Nakamichi BX-300 cassette
decks.
(QUESTION -- For Nakamichi Experts)
June 13, 2007 - I THANKED two people for their responses to this
thread.
==================

Nov. 6, 2007 - I started a thread asking for help with an issue I had
with
an older Technics receiver.
(QUESTION: FM Stereo Sensitivity)
Nov 6 & 7, 2007 - I THANKED several responders for their help and
tips.

(NOTE: This FM Stereo Sensitivity thread was not posted to
uk.rec.audio
but was posted to the other three newsgroups.)
==================

January 6, 2008 - I started a thread asking how to determine the
proper
polarity of the DC voltage input on an
Ariston turntable.
(QUESTION: Ariston Turntable Voltage
Polarity)
January 8, 2008 - I THANKED everyone for their input and assistance.

All four of these threads were found by doing a newsgroup search that
took
all of a MINUTE. I guess one minute is much too long for your short
attention
span? No special equipment or technique was used to get these search
results.

These several examples of my gratitude--which are EASILY found in the
newsgroups if one knows how to do a search, regardless of how new
(or old) one's "new" computer might be--clearly contradict your
original
assertions about me, so my original statement to you still stands:

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ YOUR READER, ASSHOLE.

Probably the most pathetic thing about your entire argument is that
you feel
qualified to comment on my newsgroup behavior while you freely admit
that
you have done practically NOTHING to get a more representative
overview of
my behavior; instead you simply chalk it up to your supposed "new"
computer not search back far enough. If you, your "new" computer, or
your
"new" computer's software can't even do a simple newsgroup search,
then one of you desperately needs a recall.

And lest you forget, one of my examples of gratitude in my search
results
given above is from JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. (The thread about the
Ariston turntable voltage polarity.)

I made it a POINT to post the Ariston turntable question in ukra,
since the Ariston turntable in question was made in Scotland!

How did your "new" computer manage to miss THAT one, my friend?

Once again I say, if TWENTY SECONDS is all it takes for you
to make up your little mind about someone, AND since you really don't
even care to get your facts straight when you DO make up your little
mind
about someone--God help anyone else who is unfortunate enough to
cross paths with you.

I said the following:

Why couldn't he have been equally diligent
in finding my much more recent posts, where
I was quite careful to thank those who had
helped me?

To which you replied:

In ukra? There weren't any.

I think we can now both agree that this is a lie. If you shut your
eyes
to something, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. My gratitude
is shown repeatedly in ukra, in more than one thread. You simply
didn't
choose to see it (and don't blame it on your "new" computer or its
software, either).

as I was just about to unsubscribe ukra anyway, I'd have
done better to let it pass.

Yes, especially when you consider that when you didn't let it pass,
you instead chose to put forth a STATISTICALLY INCORRECT conclusion,
based on FLAWED reasoning, fueled by a PATHETICALLY INSUFFICIENT
amount of data that was collected, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, in
what could only be described as the most cursory of searches.

If there had been more posts from you (ie as an
*ukra contributor*) instead of just one more example of what appeared
to be extremely selfish behaviour I wouldn't have replied at all.

Hmm...Sorry, I don't remember seeing the rule book about who can and
cannot post in ukra. I didn't know that only "contributors" were
allowed to
post. I had no idea that questions weren't permitted. I'm still
waiting to
see that "Internet Police" badge of yours....still waiting......

...I care (cared) about the lack of acknowledgement because it came
at the end of a long career of assisting no end of people over the last
few years (in ukra) - usually/mostly without acknowledgement. Came
at the wrong time, that's all....

Oh, so ukra was your CAREER, was it? Sorry to **** all over your
retirement party with my boorish shenanigans. Geez, can you whine
even louder next time? I help people all the time on the internet,
but
unlike yourself, I have better things to do with my time than to care
whether or not those people "properly" thank me. It's nice when I do
get thanked, but it doesn't rain on my parade if I don't get a "thank
you"
card. That's not why I help people. I help them because I like to
be
nice whenever I can, to whomever deserves it. Next time, help someone
WITHOUT strings attached, and you will have fewer ulcers. The
giving's the thing, maaan......seriously.

Vicious? I don't think so - especially not in the light of your 'asshole'
response....

One thing that is so great about people like you is that you are so
incredibly predictable. You are extremely sensitive about comments
made about you, and at the same time you are oblivious to comments
you make about others. A textbook case of self-centered immaturity.

In the VERY FIRST comment you ever made about me, in the midst of
insinuating I was a freeloader asking for free advice, AND that I was
ungrateful, AND that I only concern myself with "dodgy gear", you call
me
a "crossposting clown" -- how did you think that was going to be
received?

In all forms of social interaction, be it on the internet or face to
face, one
truism remains constant: YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU GIVE.

If you still haven't realized this at this late stage (and all
indications are
that you haven't), then you need to do some growing up before you
really
are beyond hope.

Don't - if I thought I was wrong anywhere in that thread I wouldn't have
posted. Wasn't helped by your pal Meat Wanka swinging in to ukra trying
to act the tough guy, but I'll tell you one thing - at least he tried to back
you up. Not one member of ukra did the same for me - so **** 'em...

That's your whole problem here in a nutshell. You don't think you're
wrong,
yet you are completely, utterly, spectacularly wrong. On a variety of
levels.
It would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.

To any reasonable outside observer, I have proven, with concrete
evidence,
that you were wrong to assert that I don't express gratitude, you were
wrong
in the methods you employed to reach that conclusion, and on a purely
social level, you were wrong to treat me and others the way you have.

Why do you think Meat (and others, mind you) tried to help me out
during this little confrontation? I don't know any of these people at
all.

Maybe it's because I don't conduct myself the way that you do. I try
to be
respectful (and grateful) to everyone who treats me the same way, and
I
send a big "**** OFF" to the people who consistently mistreat me.

I'll say it one more time: YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU GIVE.

You say that "not one member of ukra" did the same for you -- and you
really, serously don't understand why? I think that I am safe in
saying
that before this thread, I have never dealt with you before in my
life. And
looking at the way you have conducted yourself throughout this
thread,
I can safely say that I never want to deal with you again. And it
seems
that I am not alone in that sentiment. You need to take a good, long
look at yourself and the way you interact with others, and maybe,
just
MAYBE, you will understand why I (and others) feel this way.

Well, it was a long haul, but it seems it did a bit of good in the end.

Don't you dare think for one minute that you have taught me anything,
except how inept and tactless you are when it comes to dealing with
people. You have done me (or anyone) else NO good at all.

As I have proven conclusively, I *do* express gratitude when
I receive assistance, and one oversight on my part is *not* the basis
for any assessment to the contrary. I freely admit to being human and
therefore not consistently brilliant and correct 100 percent of the
time...but my percentage is still a great deal higher than yours.

Next time you're in the wrong and get a bollocking for it try to act
less like a spoilt kid and pass the word to Meat Wanka to be careful
about gobbing off on someone else's 'home turf' - or someone might
follow him home again....

Get your head out of the clouds. YOU are the one in the wrong, not
me. I am more than willing to accept a reprimand when I am truly in
the wrong and the evidence shows it. I am far more secure with
myself
than you are in this regard.

Unfortunately for you (and others like you), I will *never* be willing
to
accept any ill-informed attempt to put me down just so you (and
others like you) can feel superior. That's not what a bollocking is
supposed to be. If I haven't taught you this, I hope that someone
does. And I hope it's soon.

As for Meat, I will give him no instructions, least of all from such
pariahs as yourself. Meat is more than capable of taking care of
himself.

That's it. I'm done with usenet now and will take this opportunity to
nip it off, or it will go on forever....

I have a distinct feeling that you are still checking this thread,
even
if you never post here again. This time, it's MY turn to say I'm
done....REALLY done...with this tired topic.

Thanks to everyone (again) who made the HELPFUL responses
I found in this thread.