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tweaks and proof
Steven Sullivan wrote:
chung wrote: S888Wheel wrote: From: chung Date: 6/17/2004 3:29 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: S888Wheel wrote: And, too, a measurable difference is not necessarily audible. Never said it was. However if there is no measurable differences between two signals then there is nothing to discuss. They will make the same sound with the same associated equipment. The problem, of course, is that usually there is a measureable difference between two components, since our measuring instruments are so sensitive. It is not a problem for the instances in which there is no measurable differrence. My point is that there are very few instances where there is no measureable difference, because of the sensitivity of our test instruments. Care to provide examples where differences are not measureable? I would offer as an example bit-identity of two .wav files....which has not prevented listeners from claiming that they still sound different. In fact, what has happened in that case is lots of time spent trying to find a *differnt* measurement to validate the supposed difference (with 'jitter' usually named, but AFAIK never proved to be, the culprit). Yes, this is one of the few cases where you can measure no difference, but that's between 2 CD's and probably not what audiophiles were thinking of measuring. And there is speculation that bit-identical CD's may still sound different due to jitter. |
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