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Oh man, this sound stuff is getting complicated.
I thought I saw a good deal on a Sennheiser lavalier microphone on
eBay. It was described as the Senneiser MKE2 mic and the guy selling
it said all it needed was a connector and it could be used. He
provided a link to the Sennheiser MKE2 page which said it ran on
phantom power. I thought great, I'll have a friend who's mechanically
competent solder on an XLR connector and I'm good to go and I bought
it.
THe microphone arrived and my friend, in trying to find a wiring
diagram, ran across this wording :
Connector 3-pin XLR with integral phantom power adaptor

He says that tells him I need a special XLR connector, not a regular
one.
Does anyone know if I can use a regular XLR adapter? If not, where can
I get one that works?
Additionally, does anyone know how to hook up the wires?

[Scott Dorsey]

wrote:
Oh man, this sound stuff is getting complicated.
I thought I saw a good deal on a Sennheiser lavalier microphone on
eBay. It was described as the Senneiser MKE2 mic and the guy selling
it said all it needed was a connector and it could be used. He
provided a link to the Sennheiser MKE2 page which said it ran on
phantom power. I thought great, I'll have a friend who's mechanically
competent solder on an XLR connector and I'm good to go and I bought
it.
THe microphone arrived and my friend, in trying to find a wiring
diagram, ran across this wording :
Connector 3-pin XLR with integral phantom power adaptor

He says that tells him I need a special XLR connector, not a regular
one.
Does anyone know if I can use a regular XLR adapter? If not, where can
I get one that works?
Additionally, does anyone know how to hook up the wires?

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.
I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

[Scott Dorsey]

wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On Nov 28, 5:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.
I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

[Marc Wielage]

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:20:13 -0800, commented:

Does anyone know if I can use a regular XLR adapter? If not, where can
I get one that works?
Additionally, does anyone know how to hook up the wires?
------------------------------snip------------------------------

Lav mikes like the MKE2 are frequently used with a Switchcraft TA5 connector,
which is a miniature XLR plug. They can be connected to wireless mike
transmitters (often used for film & TV production as well as Broadway plays),
which have a built-in preamp for these mikes.

Contact a film sound specialty company like Trew Sound in Nashville, Coffey
Sound in LA, or Gotham Sound in NYC, and they can advise you further as to
whether the mike is usable. You can also contact Sennheiser directly at:

Sennheiser
1 Enterprise Drive
Old Lyme, CT 06371-1568
(860) 434-9190
http://www.sennheiserusa.com

--MFW

[Richard Crowley]

stephentimko wrote ...
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:
stephenti... wrote:
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:
This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in
Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several
circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica
equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.

If they were not Sennheiser dealers, they would likely know
no more about the microphone than a plumber or dry-cleaner.

I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

Where did it come from? That particular model number is
not listed on Sennheiser's website. Three are several references
online of people making powering circuits for these mics, but
I couldn't find any actual technical info (wiring diagram) on
Sennheiser's website. Alas, their website looks like it is run by
marketing people and graphic artists, and not by anybody
who knows anything about microphones :-(

[Scott Dorsey]

wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.
I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

No, you have to go to a real Sennheiser dealer. Or to Sennheiser
themselves. Call up the service department at 860-434-9190 and tell
them you've got a lav mike designed for a wireless pack and ask if
they can sell you the electronics package from an MKE 2P or something
so that you can graft it on.

Beyerdynamic makes a device for the job called CV-18 which takes phantom
power and gives you a 4-pin mini-XLR on the back, which should have the right
powering for the Sennheiser mikes as well, but maybe not the right connector.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[hank alrich]

wrote:

On Nov 28, 5:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.
I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

Contact Klay Anderson.

http://www.klay.com/

Voice: (800) FOR.KLAY
Fax: (801) 942.3136
International: +01 801-942-8346
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
7054 South 2300 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84121

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam

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On Nov 30, 1:47 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
stephentimko wrote ...



(Scott Dorsey) wrote:
stephenti... wrote:
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:
This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in
Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several
circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica
equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.

If they were not Sennheiser dealers, they would likely know
no more about the microphone than a plumber or dry-cleaner.

I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

Where did it come from? That particular model number is
not listed on Sennheiser's website. Three are several references
online of people making powering circuits for these mics, but
I couldn't find any actual technical info (wiring diagram) on
Sennheiser's website. Alas, their website looks like it is run by
marketing people and graphic artists, and not by anybody
who knows anything about microphones :-(

It was another attempt at a deal on eBay that wasn't such a deal. I'm
an audio newbie and I"m trying to put together decent sound equipment
at a reasonable price. I saw the specs on this and jumped at it. I
didn't understand that it needed addtional electronics. All I saw in
the specs was that it was Phantom powered, was Sennehiser and had a
wonderful audio range.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330190068515

[Richard Crowley]

wrote ...
It was another attempt at a deal on eBay that wasn't such a deal. I'm
an audio newbie and I"m trying to put together decent sound equipment
at a reasonable price. I saw the specs on this and jumped at it. I
didn't understand that it needed addtional electronics. All I saw in
the specs was that it was Phantom powered, was Sennehiser and had a
wonderful audio range.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330190068515

If Sennheiser provided the proper data on their website, it would
not be difficult to put an XLR connector (and whatever other
components???) to turn it into a conventional microphone.
I would have bought it on eBay myself if I had seen it first :-)

Google revealed http://www.idiap.ch/~moore/meeting/com02-07.pdf
which documents a custom tele-conferencing facility that uses many
of those microphones. They constructed a "Custom microphone
power box" for 24 of those microphones (photos shown in the
document), but, alas, they didn't show the schematic diagram
of the circuit they used. Their reference #1 says...
"Sennheiser Electronics. MKE 2 Insructions for use, 1995"
but the document of that name on Sennheiser's website
shows zero information about wiring.

If it is new and you don't want to mess with it, I will buy it from
you for your cost. I'm a notorious hacker and willing to take
the chance that I can turn up the wiring info somewhere.
Or else use it for one of my wireless mic transmitters (which
is likely what the unterminated model was intended for.)

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Crowley wrote:
Google revealed http://www.idiap.ch/~moore/meeting/com02-07.pdf
which documents a custom tele-conferencing facility that uses many
of those microphones. They constructed a "Custom microphone
power box" for 24 of those microphones (photos shown in the
document), but, alas, they didn't show the schematic diagram
of the circuit they used. Their reference #1 says...
"Sennheiser Electronics. MKE 2 Insructions for use, 1995"
but the document of that name on Sennheiser's website
shows zero information about wiring.

As I said, the schematics in my 2001 article on microphone powering
will work with these capsules. It requires actual electronics.

If it is new and you don't want to mess with it, I will buy it from
you for your cost. I'm a notorious hacker and willing to take
the chance that I can turn up the wiring info somewhere.
Or else use it for one of my wireless mic transmitters (which
is likely what the unterminated model was intended for.)

Chris Hicks' PZM circuits should work too:
http://www.uneeda-audio.com/pzm/pzm_ch.htm
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Richard Crowley]

"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote:
Google revealed http://www.idiap.ch/~moore/meeting/com02-07.pdf
which documents a custom tele-conferencing facility that uses many
of those microphones. They constructed a "Custom microphone
power box" for 24 of those microphones (photos shown in the
document), but, alas, they didn't show the schematic diagram
of the circuit they used. Their reference #1 says...
"Sennheiser Electronics. MKE 2 Insructions for use, 1995"
but the document of that name on Sennheiser's website
shows zero information about wiring.

As I said, the schematics in my 2001 article on microphone powering
will work with these capsules. It requires actual electronics.

If it is new and you don't want to mess with it, I will buy it from
you for your cost. I'm a notorious hacker and willing to take
the chance that I can turn up the wiring info somewhere.
Or else use it for one of my wireless mic transmitters (which
is likely what the unterminated model was intended for.)

Chris Hicks' PZM circuits should work too:
http://www.uneeda-audio.com/pzm/pzm_ch.htm

Understood. But where is the documenation on which
color wire in the mic cable goes to the source and
drain (and polarity?) That is something that other
mic manufacturers document, but Sennheiser does
not seem to publish(?)

[Scott Dorsey]

Richard Crowley wrote:

Understood. But where is the documenation on which
color wire in the mic cable goes to the source and
drain (and polarity?) That is something that other
mic manufacturers document, but Sennheiser does
not seem to publish(?)

Sennheiser will give it to you on the repair sheet if you ask the service
department to send you one.

Or you can use the diode function on an ohmmeter and find out for yourself.

Or you can do it by trial and error... one wire is shield, one wire is
source and one wire is drain. The shield is easy to identify, so you
only have two choices to try.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On Nov 30, 7:15 am, (hank alrich) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in Recording
Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which describes several circuits
of varying quality that can do the job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.
I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

Contact Klay Anderson.

http://www.klay.com/

Voice: (800) FOR.KLAY
Fax: (801) 942.3136
International: +01 801-942-8346
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
7054 South 2300 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84121

Thanks to Hank Alrich. I talked to Klay Anderson and he said he would
be able to fix up the microphone for me so I can plug it into XLR.

[hank alrich]

wrote:

On Nov 30, 7:15 am, (hank alrich) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:12 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:11 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

This is just a capsule and a FET follower, it doesn't have any of
the electronics.

You need the "adaptor" which has a PC board inside and provides a
regulated 12V differential voltage to operate the capsule.

If you want to build your own, you can. I did an article in
Recording Magazine, in the September 2001 edition, which
describes several circuits of varying quality that can do the
job.

I don't suppose there's one I can buy?

Sure, your local Sennheiser dealer can sell you one. I think you can
adapt one of the Beyer models to work but the Audio-Technica equivalent
doesn't have enough current.
--scott

OKay, I went to two audio stores today and neither could help me out.
I think I'm going to have to do this over the Internet. I don't
suppose someone can point me to the correct part number to order?
Again, I have a microphone capsule with no connector.

Contact Klay Anderson.

http://www.klay.com/

Voice: (800) FOR.KLAY
Fax: (801) 942.3136
International: +01 801-942-8346
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
7054 South 2300 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84121

Thanks to Hank Alrich. I talked to Klay Anderson and he said he would
be able to fix up the microphone for me so I can plug it into XLR.

Wow. I'm gonna show this to my wife. She never takes my advice.

Glad you got it all sorted.

--
ha
Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam