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I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty
answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks |
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On 3 Dec, 16:14, Jenn wrote:
I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks sort of Don't use an external drive, keep files on internal, or swap out playlists, but play from the internal. get a decent DAC that can communicate with your pc.\ in order of preference optical, firewire or USB send out in digital from your pc to the dac ..the key is a decent dac don't use airport express forget wireless, just wire form pc to dac, to preamp. and right, use lossless ripping like flac use EAC program to rip |
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Jenn said: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? I am withholding my opinion on this question until after the Krooborg finishes snotting all over the thread. |
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On 3 Dec, 16:39, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote: Jenn said: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? I am withholding my opinion on this question until after the Krooborg finishes snotting all over the thread. I have three sermons at the ready. |
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"soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? |
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, Clyde Slick wrote: On 3 Dec, 16:14, Jenn wrote: I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks sort of Don't use an external drive, keep files on internal, or swap out playlists, but play from the internal. get a decent DAC that can communicate with your pc.\ in order of preference optical, firewire or USB send out in digital from your pc to the dac .the key is a decent dac don't use airport express forget wireless, just wire form pc to dac, to preamp. and right, use lossless ripping like flac use EAC program to rip Interesting..thanks |
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, ScottW wrote: On Dec 3, 1:14 pm, Jenn wrote: I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Sounds right to me... I don't know what the buffer situation is along that chain.....hopefully there isn't any resource hogs that might screw you up. I know windows defender can bring my old machine (3.2 G P4) to its knees with disc activity for about 30 sec some 5 minutes after ever boot. Those are the kind of problems you might have to overcome. ScottW I see, thanks |
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"soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. |
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On 3 Dec, 22:11, Jenn wrote:
In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. don't .forget about better sound. if you do it right. .. |
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On 3 Dec, 22:27, "ScottW" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. show her how easy your solution is. otherwise, a spare external as a back up really is no hassle. |
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"ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? |
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message I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Depending on your laptop's hard drive and your requirements for storting music, you might not need that external drive. If you do go the external drive route, firewire is probably the better choice for you. If your laptop's hard drive is really small, upgrading it is an option if that kind of tech support is available to you. I think that others have listed the popular alternatives to the Airport express. Something wireless makes a lot of sense since the host is a laptop. |
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John Stone wrote: On 12/3/07 9:11 PM, in article , "Jenn" wrote: Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. Jenn I'm a Mac user and have gone the route of using a Squeezebox 3 for my music server. It's a great solution, allowing you to mirror your Itunes playlists on the display, and to sort by artist, genre, year, etc. all by remote control. It imports all your iTunes info automatically and works seamlessly over your wireless network. The other nice aspect is the ability to access a huge array of internet radio stations without any need to connect through a computer. Playing lossless files, sound quality is indistinguishable from my CD player. Well worth the $300 cost. Thanks, John. Worth considering, for sure. Seems like it would encourage aural browsing! |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Depending on your laptop's hard drive and your requirements for storting music, you might not need that external drive. If you do go the external drive route, firewire is probably the better choice for you. If your laptop's hard drive is really small, upgrading it is an option if that kind of tech support is available to you. I think that others have listed the popular alternatives to the Airport express. Something wireless makes a lot of sense since the host is a laptop. Thanks for the info |
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"ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message gy. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message odi gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? It's the hours spent ripping CD to hard drive that you'll have to do again that you won't like. ScottW I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. |
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On 3 Dec, 22:59, "ScottW" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? It's the hours spent ripping CD to hard drive that you'll have to do again that you won't like. ScottW i rip to an external by using pc number 1, hooked up to the internet so i can use freedb to auto label my file and folders then i take the external and copy the files to pc number 2, my dedicated music server. so, the files are on both pc number 2 and my external. |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
"Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. Looks like a new 400 disc DVD changer would be something like $400. Home CD CD changers are more like $250. If coded at 128 kBps, 400 1-hour CDs would take up about 25 GB. Less than double that for 192 kBps. Finding 25 GB of free space on a modern laptop is not a reach. A larger laptop with a 100 GB drive could hold 50 GB of music without being too tight for normal use. I suspect that any reasonably modern laptop could be upgraded to 100 GB for less than $250 parts and labor. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. Like RAID-5 for reliability? You won't be happy having to back that drive up The backup could be as simple as the original discs. A 100 GB external drive might be an acceptable "mirror" drive - should run well under $100. and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. Laptop hard drives are extra likely to fail or just slow down a lot. |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... On 3 Dec, 22:27, "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. show her how easy your solution is. ? otherwise, a spare external as a back up really is no hassle. I'd rather do the mirror setup once and forget it. Backups are automatic and real time. For a desktop its no more expensive as an extra drive and all the drive controllers support it. Doing it external is probably a little more pricey so I'd have to check. If she's using external drives to back up external drives...that will probably be pretty slow. An actual RAID-1 mirror is pretty much mission impossible for laptops - room for only one hard drive. Modern external FW or USB-2 hard drives will accept backup data at about 5 megabyes per second, or 3-4 minutes per gigabyte. 50 GB would then take about 3 hours, which is a good unattended job to run while you sleep. |
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"Jenn" wrote in
message In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message gy. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message odi gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? It's the hours spent ripping CD to hard drive that you'll have to do again that you won't like. ScottW I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. Or, get a really big one, and use it for both. I'm seeing 500 GB drives for a touch over $100. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message y. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message i gy. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message odi gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? It's the hours spent ripping CD to hard drive that you'll have to do again that you won't like. ScottW I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. Or, get a really big one, and use it for both. I'm seeing 500 GB drives for a touch over $100. It seems sound (sorry) to have one for music, then back up the music and my computer hard drive on another. That's if I don't get a bigger internal drive. If I get a large internal drive, I can just keep the music there, and use the one external to backup everything. |
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"ScottW" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... On 3 Dec, 22:27, "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message y.net... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message igy.net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message odigy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. show her how easy your solution is. ? otherwise, a spare external as a back up really is no hassle. I'd rather do the mirror setup once and forget it. Backups are automatic and real time. For a desktop its no more expensive as an extra drive and all the drive controllers support it. Doing it external is probably a little more pricey so I'd have to check. If she's using external drives to back up external drives...that will probably be pretty slow. An actual RAID-1 mirror is pretty much mission impossible for laptops - room for only one hard drive. Modern external FW or USB-2 hard drives will accept backup data at about 5 megabyes per second, or 3-4 minutes per gigabyte. 50 GB would then take about 3 hours, which is a good unattended job to run while you sleep. If you don't forget. ScottW True, but once I get on a routine, I'm pretty stubborn about it ;-) |
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On 3 Dec, 23:07, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. Looks like a new 400 disc DVD changer would be something like $400. Home CD CD changers are more like $250. If coded at 128 kBps, 400 1-hour CDs would take up about 25 GB. Less than double that for 192 kBps. Finding 25 GB of free space on a modern laptop is not a reach. A larger laptop with a 100 GB drive could hold 50 GB of music without being too tight for normal use. I suspect that any reasonably modern laptop could be upgraded to 100 GB for less than $250 parts and labor. though Jenn was talking about lossless compression. i am dedicating a 120 gb laptop just for this purpose, i intend to fill it with 60 gb of music. about 200 albums so far 140 albums using 41 gb i will have more music on my external drive the laptop cost me $475. a 200 gb external cost $90 |
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"ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . net ... In article , "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message gy. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message odi gy. net ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message .pr odi gy. com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. 1300-1400 If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. What's to be unhappy about? Hard drive space is cheap these days, yes? It's the hours spent ripping CD to hard drive that you'll have to do again that you won't like. ScottW I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. You can get RAID external drives...but they seem to be pricey. It's a no-brainer to implement in a desktop but external isn't that simple. This is closest I can find in a quick search...$500 http://www.usb-ware.com/caldigit-s2vr-duo-pci-e.htm ScottW I see, thanks. By the way, I just checked my recordings database. I file every WORK on every disk, and it's now at 5000 works! Zounds! |
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On 3 Dec, 23:41, Jenn wrote:
By the way, I just checked my recordings database. I file every WORK on every disk, and it's now at 5000 works! Zounds! what do you consider a 'work'? a recording of a whole concert you conducted? |
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, Clyde Slick wrote: On 3 Dec, 23:41, Jenn wrote: By the way, I just checked my recordings database. I file every WORK on every disk, and it's now at 5000 works! Zounds! what do you consider a 'work'? a recording of a whole concert you conducted? No, every piece of music on each CD/LP. For example, Beethoven 9th would have only one entry for that disk, but a Sousa march recording would have about 20 entries. |
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ScottW wrote:
An actual RAID-1 mirror is pretty much mission impossible for laptops - room for only one hard drive. Modern external FW or USB-2 hard drives will accept backup data at about 5 megabyes per second, or 3-4 minutes per gigabyte. 50 GB would then take about 3 hours, which is a good unattended job to run while you sleep. If you don't forget. You idiots ever consider trimming your posts? |
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"ScottW" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "ScottW" wrote in message "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... On 3 Dec, 22:27, "ScottW" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. You won't be happy having to back that drive up and you'll be doubly unhappy if/when your drive dies. show her how easy your solution is. ? otherwise, a spare external as a back up really is no hassle. I'd rather do the mirror setup once and forget it. Backups are automatic and real time. For a desktop its no more expensive as an extra drive and all the drive controllers support it. Doing it external is probably a little more pricey so I'd have to check. If she's using external drives to back up external drives...that will probably be pretty slow. An actual RAID-1 mirror is pretty much mission impossible for laptops - room for only one hard drive. Modern external FW or USB-2 hard drives will accept backup data at about 5 megabyes per second, or 3-4 minutes per gigabyte. 50 GB would then take about 3 hours, which is a good unattended job to run while you sleep. If you don't forget. Forget what? Forget to start it? You can set up timer-driven events. Well I presume you can do that in the Mac OS's, you sure can in XP. |
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"soundhaspriority" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "ScottW" wrote in message "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 I see; thanks. Would something like the standard (about $300) Squeezebox be better? I would think so. I think I've seen reviews indicating that it's decent. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Thanks. I'm not at all sure that I'm going to go this route; it's just a passing thought for now. I'm not sure what I would gain, to tell the truth, other than the space that my CD collection takes up in the room. How many CDs? Its cheaper to go buy a 300 or 400 disc changer and call it good enough. Looks like a new 400 disc DVD changer would be something like $400. Home CD CD changers are more like $250. If coded at 128 kBps, 400 1-hour CDs would take up about 25 GB. Less than double that for 192 kBps. Finding 25 GB of free space on a modern laptop is not a reach. A larger laptop with a 100 GB drive could hold 50 GB of music without being too tight for normal use. I suspect that any reasonably modern laptop could be upgraded to 100 GB for less than $250 parts and labor. If you go to the hassle of ripping a large CD collection to a hard drive... I would strongly encourage you use a RAID config with mirroring. Like RAID-5 for reliability? Not good enough. Other single point failures, such as controller failure, power surges, or destructive power supply failure, can take it all away. Huh? You can replace controllers and power supplies. As long as the basic integrity of the primary media (the hard drive) is preserved, its OK. |
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Rippling a collection to hard disk is a lengthy endeavor. Probably around 5-8 CDs per hour, more or less. If you do it while watching TV, you can change discs during every commercial break... And it's so volatile! Hard drives can go away in a flash, though most failures I've seen recently were a while in the making. You really need duplicate or triplicate hard disk storage for this. That's more like a want, unless you dispose of the origional discs. And of course, that breaks the copyright. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "soundhaspriority" wrote in message Rippling a collection to hard disk is a lengthy endeavor. Probably around 5-8 CDs per hour, more or less. If you do it while watching TV, you can change discs during every commercial break... And it's so volatile! Hard drives can go away in a flash, though most failures I've seen recently were a while in the making. You really need duplicate or triplicate hard disk storage for this. That's more like a want, unless you dispose of the origional discs. And of course, that breaks the copyright. I don't believe that this is a copyright violation, but I'll check later today. |
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On Dec 3, 3:25 pm, "soundhaspriority" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message ... I know that I can research this in depth, but for just a quick/dirty answer while some students take a quiz: If I wanted to go the "play music from your computer through your home audio gear, a good route might be: My Mac PowerBook (I don't have a desktop anymore) with large external drive which would contain sound files losslessly ripped, then wireless transmission to something like Airport Express, which I would plug into an Aux input on my preamp. CD quality sound, right? Thanks I am not a Mac person, but this appears correct. But remember that the D/A and output stage can't have high end quality. It's an electrically noisy device, made very cheaply. The Airport has a digital out. Useful if you have an A/V receiver or a DAC. Stephen |
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Bill Riel wrote: In article jennconductsREMOVETHIS-D4D06C.20021403122007 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. Jenn, are you using Leopard? If you have hardware to support it, it may be just what you need to keep timely backups without having to take any extra effort to do so. The reality is, very few people backup adequately. Leopard's "Time Machine" will take care of this automatically and allow you to easily restore should something go wrong. You will need an external drive, but the combination may save you some grief down the road. Oh, and on to the wireless streaming: I've mentioned that I have a Squeezebox and I would enthusiastically recommend it. You do have to have a wireless network (Airport Express), but the ability to see your whole iTunes music library and stream any internet station from the device is very cool. -- Bill Thanks, Bill. I'm about to get Leopard and an external drive. |
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"Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: "soundhaspriority" wrote in message Rippling a collection to hard disk is a lengthy endeavor. Probably around 5-8 CDs per hour, more or less. If you do it while watching TV, you can change discs during every commercial break... And it's so volatile! Hard drives can go away in a flash, though most failures I've seen recently were a while in the making. You really need duplicate or triplicate hard disk storage for this. That's more like a want, unless you dispose of the origional discs. And of course, that breaks the copyright. I don't believe that this is a copyright violation, but I'll check later today. Jenn, you are technologically nervier than I am. There are many single point failures in a computer that can take it all away. Bob Morein (310) 237-6511 Oh, I would never get rid of the CDs! I'm just saying that I don't think that Arny's suggestion breaks the law. |
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On 4 Dec, 12:31, Jenn wrote:
In article , Bill Riel wrote: In article jennconductsREMOVETHIS-D4D06C.20021403122007 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. Jenn, are you using Leopard? If you have hardware to support it, it may be just what you need to keep timely backups without having to take any extra effort to do so. The reality is, very few people backup adequately. Leopard's "Time Machine" will take care of this automatically and allow you to easily restore should something go wrong. You will need an external drive, but the combination may save you some grief down the road. Oh, and on to the wireless streaming: I've mentioned that I have a Squeezebox and I would enthusiastically recommend it. You do have to have a wireless network (Airport Express), but the ability to see your whole iTunes music library and stream any internet station from the device is very cool. -- Bill Thanks, Bill. I'm about to get Leopard and an external drive. i would rip using Exact Audio Copy free software. and i would use an external DAC. and i would use lossless compression such as flac and i would play files directly stored on the pc, with an external as a backup and/or for larger music library i think those are the four key elements. convenience AND not only not compromising sound quality, but getting better sound quality than using a cd player any other choices like airport are discretionary and from what i have been reading about Leopard, one would have to be an entymologist to appreciate it. |
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@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, says... and from what i have been reading about Leopard, one would have to be an entymologist to appreciate it. Hey, that would be me! Of course it's 'entomologist', but I'm probably the last guy that ought to be a spelling/grammar critic. I've heard of some bugs/issues, but I gather most people are quite pleased with the upgrade. fwiw, the computer 'press' seem to be quite enamoured with it (and quite disappointed with Vista for what that's worth). -- Bill |
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On 4 Dec, 13:52, ScottW wrote:
On Dec 4, 10:27 am, Clyde Slick wrote: On 4 Dec, 12:31, Jenn wrote: In article , Bill Riel wrote: In article jennconductsREMOVETHIS-D4D06C.20021403122007 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... I see. My backup practices are woefully bad presently, so I'm getting an external drive for Christmas. I was thinking of using that for music, and buying another as a backup. Jenn, are you using Leopard? If you have hardware to support it, it may be just what you need to keep timely backups without having to take any extra effort to do so. The reality is, very few people backup adequately. Leopard's "Time Machine" will take care of this automatically and allow you to easily restore should something go wrong. You will need an external drive, but the combination may save you some grief down the road. Oh, and on to the wireless streaming: I've mentioned that I have a Squeezebox and I would enthusiastically recommend it. You do have to have a wireless network (Airport Express), but the ability to see your whole iTunes music library and stream any internet station from the device is very cool. -- Bill Thanks, Bill. I'm about to get Leopard and an external drive. i would rip using Exact Audio Copy free software. and i would use an external DAC. and i would use lossless compression such as flac and i would play files directly stored on the pc, with an external as a backup and/or for larger music library i think those are the four key elements. convenience AND not only not compromising sound quality, but getting better sound quality than using a cd player What in this process will provide better sound quality than a CD player? (No Foobar upsampled interpolation and btw that paper while interesting on the upsample segments the mechanical jitter crap was total hogwash) ScottW not reading the data from a spinning disk i use winamp mostly i didn't do any of those mods, reconfigs, etc listed in the paper |
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