A friend suggested that I look into getting a Richard Gray's power
line condtioner to improve the overall sound of my system.How much
difference , if any will a line conditioner make ? How much difference
is there between the Richard Gray's conditioner as opposed to any
other line condtioner? I live in a brownstone with old electric
running through it.My system consists of ARC SP16 pre , 100.2 amp,
Vandersteen 2CE SIGS. I listen to a lot of vinyl and some CD's.
Any advice would be appreciated.

The wiring in your house is unlikely to be a significant cause of
disturbances. Noisy devices (computers, VCRs, TVs or large motors) are.
Because of this, line conditioners can make a difference when the system is
wired in unbalanced mode. If you can afford, migrate to balanced
connections. It will clean up your system in a way no conditioner ever can.
Another solution taking the same angle is to use transformers to cut ground
loops (such as sold by http://www.q-audio.com/ ).

"Arthur Bates , Jr." wrote in message
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A friend suggested that I look into getting a Richard Gray's power
line condtioner to improve the overall sound of my system.How much
difference , if any will a line conditioner make ? How much difference
is there between the Richard Gray's conditioner as opposed to any
other line condtioner? I live in a brownstone with old electric
running through it.My system consists of ARC SP16 pre , 100.2 amp,
Vandersteen 2CE SIGS. I listen to a lot of vinyl and some CD's.
Any advice would be appreciated.

"Arthur Bates , Jr." wrote in message
news:QzRDb.410745$275.1288847@attbi_s53...
A friend suggested that I look into getting a Richard Gray's power
line condtioner to improve the overall sound of my system.How much
difference , if any will a line conditioner make ? How much
difference
is there between the Richard Gray's conditioner as opposed to any
other line condtioner? I live in a brownstone with old electric
running through it.My system consists of ARC SP16 pre , 100.2 amp,
Vandersteen 2CE SIGS. I listen to a lot of vinyl and some CD's.
Any advice would be appreciated.

The trouble with line conditioners is that there is no definition of
"conditioner." The customer apparently reads into the word whatever
they're looking for. You can hang a couple of MOVs across the line
and call it a conditioner. Or you can convert the AC line to DC and
regenerate a clean sine wave. This, too, is a conditioner.

If your car was getting uncharacteristically poor gas mileage, would
you buy a device called a gas conditioner? Of course not. If you
have a known problem with your power line, and you want to eliminate
it, buy a device designed to do exactly what you need it to do, but
don't buy a "line conditioner."

Norm Strong

Good one Norm. That's getting down to the nugget.

I replied to this thread too but did a bad. I made a new thread because I
didn't click right. (AC Power Conditioner Cont.) I spent some considerable
time because I write papers on this subject and the timing was such that my
thoughts on a new white paper just started gushing out.

Arthur,

It sounds to me like you live in Manhattan. Drop me a note if you wish and
I will see if I can have Chip Stern (Stereophile) get in touch with you. He
lives in your neck of the woods.if I'm reading you right. I think you may
get a first hand demo to answer your question.

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"Arthur Bates , Jr." wrote in message
news:QzRDb.410745$275.1288847@attbi_s53...
A friend suggested that I look into getting a Richard Gray's power
line condtioner to improve the overall sound of my system.How much
difference , if any will a line conditioner make ? How much
difference
is there between the Richard Gray's conditioner as opposed to any
other line condtioner? I live in a brownstone with old electric
running through it.My system consists of ARC SP16 pre , 100.2 amp,
Vandersteen 2CE SIGS. I listen to a lot of vinyl and some CD's.
Any advice would be appreciated.

The trouble with line conditioners is that there is no definition of
"conditioner." The customer apparently reads into the word whatever
they're looking for. You can hang a couple of MOVs across the line
and call it a conditioner. Or you can convert the AC line to DC and
regenerate a clean sine wave. This, too, is a conditioner.

If your car was getting uncharacteristically poor gas mileage, would
you buy a device called a gas conditioner? Of course not. If you
have a known problem with your power line, and you want to eliminate
it, buy a device designed to do exactly what you need it to do, but
don't buy a "line conditioner."

Norm Strong