[ScottW]

On Jun 26, 2:58 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article .com,





ScottW wrote:
On Jun 26, 10:50 am, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

"ScottW" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message
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In article om,
ScottW wrote:

On Jun 24, 10:26 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

"ScottW" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message

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In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:

Jenn said:

Using isn't necessarily abusing,

Understood. I'll correct say that I've used illegal drugs
once
in
my
life.

That's extraordinary. I went through a drinking phase and a pot
phase.
Now I drink a little, but I developed a strong adversion to
liquor.

I tried pot once when I was 16. I didn't do it anymore because
A. I
didn't like it

How many people got high the first time they smoked?

I have no idea.

All you liars can put your hand down.
Your as FOS as Clinton.

Who is it "your" talking about?

All you BS'ers claiming to have smoked once,
got high...and didn't like it.

Who said I got high?
At any rate, you can believe me or not; I don't care.

I believe you tried to smoke pot, couldn't choke it down
and get past your life ruination paranoia and decided
you didn't like it but have never been high on pot.

Pretty close, except for the paranoia.

You forgot to blame Clinton for world wide drug abuse.

Let's blame Carter for that. Peanuts can be so
intoxicating.

B. I was a "good kid"

since gone astray...

Yep, I've sunk so low as to try to have conversation with you.

Sunk low enought to spew gratuitous insults

Yes, I know that you believe that I'm "sinning" when I defend myself.

You call that defense? I call it abdication of your integrity
which isn't all that.

Whatever. I insult a bit here when I'm first insulted. I can live with
that. It's the coin of this realm.

and
spam test posts.

lol Obsess much?

Lots

There it is.

Yup, and you're now obsessing about my
obsessions. Who's twisted?

I'm not obsessing. You've succeeded in turning a one post thread which
upsets you for some reason into a 70 post thread, plus those in this
thread.







Again, the post, easily ignored had you chosen to,
was the perfectly logical thing to do given the problem.

Logical to your self centered arrogant view of the world
but hardly appropriate. If I have a bad FM receiver
should I set up a transmitter to test it in open air?

How would you have tested to see if the problem was solved, Scott?

I'd have duplicated the filters on alt.test and performed a test
post
there. If the result worked but still failed on RAO, the RAO filter
is
obviously corrupted and needed to be reset.

The exact same filters were already in place for 2 other groups that
were behaving normally. Next?



This
is obviously so important to you; show me the way.

It's really not the topic under discussion, its your
attitude.

No Scott, it's YOUR attitude.

NO..ITS Y_O_U_R attitude.

You're all ****ed off

Wrong again. I was never ****ed off. Just bored.

because I dared to
do a simple test post in YOUR newsgroup. You say that you're concerned
about "spamming" the newsgroup, and yet you answer the test post
unnecessarily, thereby creating more of the "spam" that you detest.

Who said I detest it? You're full of false assumptions.

I
should say "evidently detest" because you create more off-topic spam
than anyone else here, by a large margin. So it's YOUR attitude that
causes you to act as the cop in this situation.

Do you feel policed? Up against the wall with cuffs?
Wah, wah, wah. GMAB.
You simply don't cope well with criticism.







and it didn't fit with the rest
of my life, and C. An arrest for pot at that time ruined
people's
lives.

What state and when?

CA, '71/'72.

Care to explain how Ca. pot laws "ruined" lives in '72?
If you said Texas or Ok. I might understand but Ca.
wasn't known for severe punishment AFAIK.

The only two pot busts that I recall from my high school from that era
resulted in jail time of something like 6 months.

What did you do, narc on your dealer?
Anyway in '72 Ca. passed the "drug diversion program"
allowing first offenders to have all charges dismissed
in exchange for a drug treatment/education program
which was about as tough as traffic school.

You're ignoring the social, family, etc. implications.

You came from a family of prudes who would banish
you for drug use

Who said that? Stop making things up.

But they would ruin your life!


but accepted your sexual orientation?
Kind of an odd mix.

Thanks for displaying a total ignorance of the nature of sexual
orientation vs. the choice of illegal drug abuse.

One's against God, the other is against the government.
Is that it ?




You're a bit
younger than I; you probably don't remember those times as well as I.

Just a few years. Your implicationt that the whole nation
sufferred your families social paranoia in the 70's is really
a hoot.

You're ignorant of the fact that society changed rather suddenly circa
1973/74. Perhaps you should speak to someone a bit older than you about
it. Here is a sample of the change: Up until my senior year in high
school, men got suspended for 3 days if their hair come over 1/4" over
the top of their ears,

Maybe where you went to school but not mine. Not even close.

or if their sideburns extended to lower than
exactly half way down their ears. Women were suspended for 3 days if
their skirts were higher than exactly three inches from the middle of
their knees. "Smoking in the boy's room" meant a three day suspension;
on the third offense, you could be expelled forever. If you were known
as a toker, it was presumed widely that you were not "college material"
and you were a social outcast to all in school other than other than
other weed smokers. This was in the Vista Unified School District, and
I'm quite sure that the situation was the same at Sam Marcos Unified.
The following year, everything changed.

Total transformation of society in a single year. LOL.
This is really quite funny.....fictitious but funny.

Due to a court case statewide
(or nationally; I'll have to look that up), all of those rules were out
the window. The "good kids" still didn't do drugs, but the change was
evident.

While all those evil bad kids got scholarships to Berkley.

Did you go to private school or perhaps a convent?

In '75 they decriminalized small time possession completely.

We were told that
such a thing would affect college acceptance, scholarships, etc.

Another Reefer Madness victim.

But true.

What you were told is true or that
you were truly told a lie?
Try to be clear.

The former.

Wrong...try again.

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article .com,
ScottW wrote:


You came from a family of prudes who would banish
you for drug use

Who said that? Stop making things up.

But they would ruin your life!

Who said "banish"?



but accepted your sexual orientation?
Kind of an odd mix.

Thanks for displaying a total ignorance of the nature of sexual
orientation vs. the choice of illegal drug abuse.

One's against God, the other is against the government.
Is that it ?

Nope.





You're a bit
younger than I; you probably don't remember those times as well as I.

Just a few years. Your implicationt that the whole nation
sufferred your families social paranoia in the 70's is really
a hoot.

You're ignorant of the fact that society changed rather suddenly circa
1973/74. Perhaps you should speak to someone a bit older than you about
it. Here is a sample of the change: Up until my senior year in high
school, men got suspended for 3 days if their hair come over 1/4" over
the top of their ears,

Maybe where you went to school but not mine. Not even close.

How old are you?


or if their sideburns extended to lower than
exactly half way down their ears. Women were suspended for 3 days if
their skirts were higher than exactly three inches from the middle of
their knees. "Smoking in the boy's room" meant a three day suspension;
on the third offense, you could be expelled forever. If you were known
as a toker, it was presumed widely that you were not "college material"
and you were a social outcast to all in school other than other than
other weed smokers. This was in the Vista Unified School District, and
I'm quite sure that the situation was the same at Sam Marcos Unified.
The following year, everything changed.

Total transformation of society in a single year. LOL.
This is really quite funny.....fictitious but funny.

How old are you?


Due to a court case statewide
(or nationally; I'll have to look that up), all of those rules were out
the window. The "good kids" still didn't do drugs, but the change was
evident.

While all those evil bad kids got scholarships to Berkley.

I seriously doubt that anyone with a drug bust was offered a scholarship
to any UC school in the early 70s.


Did you go to private school or perhaps a convent?

In '75 they decriminalized small time possession completely.

We were told that
such a thing would affect college acceptance, scholarships, etc.

Another Reefer Madness victim.

But true.

What you were told is true or that
you were truly told a lie?
Try to be clear.

The former.

Wrong...try again.

Incorrect. I was told that it was true, and it was.

[ScottW]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
ScottW wrote:


You came from a family of prudes who would banish
you for drug use

Who said that? Stop making things up.

But they would ruin your life!

Who said "banish"?

Ok...so being banished by your family isn't life ruining.
It is your family.

So what exactly were you afraid would happen to you?





but accepted your sexual orientation?
Kind of an odd mix.

Thanks for displaying a total ignorance of the nature of sexual
orientation vs. the choice of illegal drug abuse.

One's against God, the other is against the government.
Is that it ?

Nope.





You're a bit
younger than I; you probably don't remember those times as well as I.

Just a few years. Your implicationt that the whole nation
sufferred your families social paranoia in the 70's is really
a hoot.

You're ignorant of the fact that society changed rather suddenly circa
1973/74. Perhaps you should speak to someone a bit older than you about
it. Here is a sample of the change: Up until my senior year in high
school, men got suspended for 3 days if their hair come over 1/4" over
the top of their ears,

Maybe where you went to school but not mine. Not even close.

How old are you?

Old enough. I was in high school in the time frame in question.



or if their sideburns extended to lower than
exactly half way down their ears. Women were suspended for 3 days if
their skirts were higher than exactly three inches from the middle of
their knees. "Smoking in the boy's room" meant a three day suspension;
on the third offense, you could be expelled forever. If you were known
as a toker, it was presumed widely that you were not "college material"
and you were a social outcast to all in school other than other than
other weed smokers. This was in the Vista Unified School District, and
I'm quite sure that the situation was the same at Sam Marcos Unified.
The following year, everything changed.

Total transformation of society in a single year. LOL.
This is really quite funny.....fictitious but funny.

How old are you?

Old enough to remember.



Due to a court case statewide
(or nationally; I'll have to look that up), all of those rules were out
the window. The "good kids" still didn't do drugs, but the change was
evident.

While all those evil bad kids got scholarships to Berkley.

I seriously doubt that anyone with a drug bust was offered a scholarship
to any UC school in the early 70s.

How would they know? Juvenile records are sealed.



Did you go to private school or perhaps a convent?

In '75 they decriminalized small time possession completely.

We were told that
such a thing would affect college acceptance, scholarships, etc.

Another Reefer Madness victim.

But true.

What you were told is true or that
you were truly told a lie?
Try to be clear.

The former.

Wrong...try again.

Incorrect. I was told that it was true, and it was.

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article ,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

...
In article .com,
ScottW wrote:


You came from a family of prudes who would banish
you for drug use

Who said that? Stop making things up.

But they would ruin your life!

Who said "banish"?

Ok...so being banished by your family isn't life ruining.
It is your family.

I didn't say that either. Why do you make things up?


So what exactly were you afraid would happen to you?

Extreme disappoint from my family, friends, church, etc. Possible bust,
ruining college plans. You can't understand that risking that was not
worth sucking on some weed? Says more about you than me, I think.






but accepted your sexual orientation?
Kind of an odd mix.

Thanks for displaying a total ignorance of the nature of sexual
orientation vs. the choice of illegal drug abuse.

One's against God, the other is against the government.
Is that it ?

Nope.





You're a bit
younger than I; you probably don't remember those times as well as
I.

Just a few years. Your implicationt that the whole nation
sufferred your families social paranoia in the 70's is really
a hoot.

You're ignorant of the fact that society changed rather suddenly circa
1973/74. Perhaps you should speak to someone a bit older than you about
it. Here is a sample of the change: Up until my senior year in high
school, men got suspended for 3 days if their hair come over 1/4" over
the top of their ears,

Maybe where you went to school but not mine. Not even close.

How old are you?

Old enough. I was in high school in the time frame in question.

IIRC, you were probably in JHS during 71/72. True?




or if their sideburns extended to lower than
exactly half way down their ears. Women were suspended for 3 days if
their skirts were higher than exactly three inches from the middle of
their knees. "Smoking in the boy's room" meant a three day suspension;
on the third offense, you could be expelled forever. If you were known
as a toker, it was presumed widely that you were not "college material"
and you were a social outcast to all in school other than other than
other weed smokers. This was in the Vista Unified School District, and
I'm quite sure that the situation was the same at Sam Marcos Unified.
The following year, everything changed.

Total transformation of society in a single year. LOL.
This is really quite funny.....fictitious but funny.

Scott, if you're going to keep claiming that I lie to you, why don't you
simply stop conversing? I have no interest in beating my head against
your wall.


How old are you?

Old enough to remember.



Due to a court case statewide
(or nationally; I'll have to look that up), all of those rules were out
the window. The "good kids" still didn't do drugs, but the change was
evident.

While all those evil bad kids got scholarships to Berkley.

I seriously doubt that anyone with a drug bust was offered a scholarship
to any UC school in the early 70s.

How would they know? Juvenile records are sealed.

Honestly, you can't figure that out?




Did you go to private school or perhaps a convent?

In '75 they decriminalized small time possession completely.

We were told that
such a thing would affect college acceptance, scholarships, etc.

Another Reefer Madness victim.

But true.

What you were told is true or that
you were truly told a lie?
Try to be clear.

The former.

Wrong...try again.

Incorrect. I was told that it was true, and it was.

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

We're talking about the very early 70s, Scott. I'm sorry that you don't
remember. If you want to educate yourself about the nature of the
change in schools in that period, I refer you to the fallout of the King
Vs. Saddleback College case (just up the I5 from you), the Olff vs. East
Side Union High School District case, the Tinker case, cases concerning
locker searches, etc. If you do this, you will find that, yes, things
changed rather suddenly in the early 70s. Societal paranoia brought on
in reaction to the Manson case (crimes: 1969, trial and conviction:
70-71) and other events contributed to strong drug sentences in the
early 70s.


What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

None that I can recall, until my 40s. Closest thing as a kid would have
been school dances.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said to Witlessmongrel:

Ok...so being banished by your family isn't life ruining.
It is your family.

I didn't say that either. Why do you make things up?

I'm sure you meant that question to be rhetorical. Even so, the answer
bears repeating: Scottie is only comfortable when he can conduct both
"sides" of a "debate" inside his own head. His malfunctioning mind is
not capable of addressing thoughts from normal people, so he retreats
into his little asylum and "answers" random impulses that he invents.

Note that he doesn't do this for his own amusement. That is how he
characterizes my posts, and Scottie is, above all, not a hypocrite.





--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[ScottW]

On Jun 28, 9:48 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

None that I can recall, until my 40s. Closest thing as a kid would have
been school dances.

OMG, That explains a lot. I consider you a victim of child abuse.
Average American kid your were not.
I'm trying to remember my first concert. I think it was Black Oak
Arkansas
in the school gym as freshman or maybe it was sneeking into
the Call Ballroom to watch REO Speedwagon before they
had an album out.
First really awesome concert was Wishbone Ash & Climax Blues
Band live at the Rocket in Davenport Ia. Second row center.
What a show!

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article . com,
ScottW wrote:

On Jun 28, 9:48 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

None that I can recall, until my 40s. Closest thing as a kid would have
been school dances.

OMG, That explains a lot. I consider you a victim of child abuse.
Average American kid your were not.

Never said that I was!

I'm trying to remember my first concert. I think it was Black Oak
Arkansas
in the school gym as freshman or maybe it was sneeking into
the Call Ballroom to watch REO Speedwagon before they
had an album out.
First really awesome concert was Wishbone Ash & Climax Blues
Band live at the Rocket in Davenport Ia. Second row center.
What a show!

ScottW

Well, I've played in the orchestra for Moody Blues and Yes symphonic
concerts if those count. Both with the Reno Philharmonic. Very fun.
Jon Anderson of Yes lives about 5 miles from me now, and I run into him
and his daughter once in a while.

Most of the live non-classical concerts that I've attended are by
acoustic fingerstyle guitarists (a passion of mine for the past 2
years), and various folk-ish acts. Simon and Garfunkel, Garfunkel by
himself, John Denver, etc. And I heard several Peter Paul and Mary
concerts before my association with them began. I've heard several
"revival" or "oldie" concerts: Three Dog Night, Gary Pucket, et al.
Not a rock concert, but I caught a great set by B.B. King a few years
ago. Fun. And then of course, there are the many, many Broadway shows
and concerts, both as audience member and as conductor/player.

[Joe Duffy]

In article . com,
ScottW wrote:
I'm trying to remember my first concert. I think it was Black Oak
Arkansas
in the school gym as freshman or maybe it was sneeking into
the Call Ballroom to watch REO Speedwagon before they
had an album out.
First really awesome concert was Wishbone Ash & Climax Blues
Band live at the Rocket in Davenport Ia. Second row center.
What a show!



You didn't have to mention Iowa to give away
the midwestern nature of these bands.
I haven't heard Black Oak Arkansas or Wishbone Ash
in decades.
I really liked The Climax Blues Band.
For some reason they make me think of Tower of Power.
Probably horns.



Joe

[ScottW]

On Jun 29, 11:54 am, (Joe Duffy) wrote:
In article . com,

ScottW wrote:
I'm trying to remember my first concert. I think it was Black Oak
Arkansas
in the school gym as freshman or maybe it was sneeking into
the Call Ballroom to watch REO Speedwagon before they
had an album out.
First really awesome concert was Wishbone Ash & Climax Blues
Band live at the Rocket in Davenport Ia. Second row center.
What a show!

You didn't have to mention Iowa to give away
the midwestern nature of these bands.
I haven't heard Black Oak Arkansas or Wishbone Ash
in decades.

Not sure what midwestern nature a British band like
Wishbone Ash has. I think CBB started in
Chicago. REO formed at UofIllinois where
I went to school but they were in every big
club with bi-weekly gigs in the Cal for a long
time.

I really liked The Climax Blues Band.
For some reason they make me think of Tower of Power.
Probably horns.

They definitely got more poppish later with Stamp Album.
They were doing FM/Live in this show....awesome.
Rich Man is one of my faves as well.

ScottW

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 28, 11:48 pm, Jenn wrote:

Scott, if you're going to keep claiming that I lie to you, why don't you
simply stop conversing? I have no interest in beating my head against
your wall.

CORRECTION: That is not a wall, it's his skull. His skull allegedly
houses a 'brain.' Science cannot confirm this, however, as his skull
is made out of an Impervium/Inpenetratum alloy. This dual-action
material blocks X-ray or MRI investigations to confirm the presence of
this so-called 'brain,' and it also simultaneously acts as a shield
against learning anything.

This "outside-in, inside-out" blocking action is what stymies his best
efforts at communication.

It is the crushing density of his skull that is at the root of his
many problems. It is easy to see how you confused it with a wall.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

[ScottW]

On Jun 29, 11:00 am, Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
wrote:
On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

Can I get a little remorse too?
How about some records?


What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

You might want to keep that tidbit of trivia to yourself.

ScottW

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 29, 1:13 pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jun 29, 11:00 am, Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!

wrote:
On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

Can I get a little remorse too?

Huh?

LOL!

How about some records?

The record for uninturrupted blind audio testing is 45 years.

That individual is still trying to decide whether to buy a Marantz
Model 7 or a MacIntosh C-22 preamp. He likes the sound of the Marantz,
but he can't be SURE it isn't some visually-cued MacIntosh bias.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

You might want to keep that tidbit of trivia to yourself.

Why?

[George M. Middius]

Shhhh! said:

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

You might want to keep that tidbit of trivia to yourself.

Why?

Scottie is afraid of Mickey.




--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[ScottW]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 29, 1:13 pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jun 29, 11:00 am, Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!

wrote:
On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

Can I get a little remorse too?

Huh?

Ok...got any gratitude? Go fish.


LOL!

How about some records?

The record for uninturrupted blind audio testing is 45 years.

That individual is still trying to decide whether to buy a Marantz
Model 7 or a MacIntosh C-22 preamp. He likes the sound of the Marantz,
but he can't be SURE it isn't some visually-cued MacIntosh bias.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

You might want to keep that tidbit of trivia to yourself.

Why?

Did you know the editor of Rolling Stone is personally waging
a campaign to prevent the Monkess from being admitted to the
R&R Hall of Fame? Something to do with them being the first
band created by a talent search, the original American Idol.
One of 'em was on O'Reilly and seemed to think that was pretty
cool.

ScottW

[Jenn]

In article om,
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

Now THAT'S cool! Believe it or not, they were among my first
inspiration, especially the later stuff where they really played
everything. The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) is a person I greatly
admire and a person I've done a couple of gigs with. I know most of the
brass players from their early things too. Oh the stories they tell!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 29, 2:12 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article om,
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

Now THAT'S cool! Believe it or not, they were among my first
inspiration, especially the later stuff where they really played
everything. The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) is a person I greatly
admire and a person I've done a couple of gigs with. I know most of the
brass players from their early things too. Oh the stories they tell!

Do you know if they actually played in concert, or were they lip
synching to a tape? At the time, of course, I never would have had
such a thought. And there was the very Monkeemobile, as seen on TV!

It really WAS kind of cool (I was six or seven). At that time, if you
couldn't see The Beatles, The Monkees were a very close second.

Lots of flashes from Kodak Brownies, lots of screaming preteen girls
trying to emulate footage from A Hard Day's Night. I think I even
remember the warmup band's name: The Sunsets. They had everybody take
a picture at the same time. Some people were distraught that they
couldn't get their cameras out in time, missing "The Moment."

[Jenn]

In article .com,
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

On Jun 29, 2:12 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article om,
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

On Jun 28, 7:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Lol...who knew the heartland of America was so progressive
compared to Ca. in the 70's.

Serious question: do you take yourself seriously, even the slightest
amount? If so, I pity you.

What was the first rock concert you recall attending?

The Monkees in 1967. They had the Monkeemobile in the lobby.

Now THAT'S cool! Believe it or not, they were among my first
inspiration, especially the later stuff where they really played
everything. The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) is a person I greatly
admire and a person I've done a couple of gigs with. I know most of the
brass players from their early things too. Oh the stories they tell!

Do you know if they actually played in concert, or were they lip
synching to a tape? At the time, of course, I never would have had
such a thought. And there was the very Monkeemobile, as seen on TV!

They played some and sang all. There was a band in the background
(often backstage) made up of studio musicians covering most of the
parts. Once they started doing all of the playing themselves (from
"Headquarters" on) they seldom played live.


It really WAS kind of cool (I was six or seven). At that time, if you
couldn't see The Beatles, The Monkees were a very close second.

Lots of flashes from Kodak Brownies, lots of screaming preteen girls
trying to emulate footage from A Hard Day's Night. I think I even
remember the warmup band's name: The Sunsets. They had everybody take
a picture at the same time. Some people were distraught that they
couldn't get their cameras out in time, missing "The Moment."

;-)

They really did have a lot of talent, in spite of the insipid TV show
for which they were created. Jones was a really good singer, Dolenz a
decent drummer, good singer, and high energy guy, Tork is a good song
writer, fair singer, and good multi-instrumentalist (he still plays gigs
around L.A.) and Nesmith is a VERY talented songwriter, decent
guitarist, and he basically invented the music video format.

[Clyde Slick]

Jenn a scris:
The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) .....

you just can't beat those California Girls!!

[MiNe 109]

In article .com,
Clyde Slick wrote:

Jenn a scris:
The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) .....

you just can't beat those California Girls!!

An hommage to Diamond Dave's video by the Dresden Dolls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awnjw36mNEs

"Shores of California"

Stephen

[Jenn]

In article .com,
Clyde Slick wrote:

Jenn a scris:
The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) .....

you just can't beat those California Girls!!

Right on! She truly is an amazing person and talent. She played just
about ALL of the TV and movie scores that called for electric bass for 3
freaking decades. Any TV or movie score from the 60s, 70s, 80s, chances
are it's her that you're hearing, even a bit presently. Plus the Beach
Boys, Monkees, Simon and Garfunkel, Elvis, The Supremes, The Carpenters,
Stevie Wonder, Sinatra, and on and on. The bass is all her. Even THe
Doors' Light my Fire!

[MiNe 109]

In article .com,
Clyde Slick wrote:

Jenn a scris:
The woman who played bass on the early things, Carol Kaye
(surely the most heard bass player in the world) .....

you just can't beat those California Girls!!

She has a cool website, too:

http://www.carolkaye.com/

Check out the "bass only" samples on the "bass hits" page.

Stephen