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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote:
"We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
On 25 Apr 2007 08:58:46 -0700, avidlistener
wrote: On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. If they were, we'd have to ban gasoline, fertilizer, cars, sticks, and a few other things. BTW - case in point - I don't recall the 9/11 hijackers using guns. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. America 'is' 28th in the world for gun violence, after most EU and Latino countries. |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"CB" wrote in message ... "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. America 'is' 28th in the world for gun violence, after most EU and Latino countries. **It is #8 for gun related homicide: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita Sandwiched right there between Uruguay and Costa Rica. The next Western, developed nation is way down at #19. Don't fool yourself: Having a gun related homicide rate which is amongst a bunch of third world ********s is nothing to be proud of. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "CB" wrote in message ... "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. America 'is' 28th in the world for gun violence, after most EU and Latino countries. **It is #8 for gun related homicide: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita Sandwiched right there between Uruguay and Costa Rica. The next Western, developed nation is way down at #19. Don't fool yourself: Having a gun related homicide rate which is amongst a bunch of third world ********s is nothing to be proud of. I know it's not. I wonder though, in the stats you quoted, is there any breakdown on the ethnicity of those who used guns in the commission of a murder? I doubt it, not too PC. The "28th" I quoted was from "Boortz" -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"CB" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "CB" wrote in message ... "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. America 'is' 28th in the world for gun violence, after most EU and Latino countries. **It is #8 for gun related homicide: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita Sandwiched right there between Uruguay and Costa Rica. The next Western, developed nation is way down at #19. Don't fool yourself: Having a gun related homicide rate which is amongst a bunch of third world ********s is nothing to be proud of. I know it's not. I wonder though, in the stats you quoted, is there any breakdown on the ethnicity of those who used guns in the commission of a murder? I doubt it, not too PC. **Yep. They were all Americans. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. **There is, however, a DIRECT connection between lax, stupid and haphazard gun control laws and the number of people shot to death: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita It is not the number of guns in a society that is a problem. It is WHO is able to access those guns. The US is unique compared to all the other Western, developed nations, WRT the sale of guns (in many jurisdictions) without the requirement of background checks. This was amply demonstrated by the events in Vermont. Worse, in the US secondary gun sales (in many jurisdictions) require no background checks whatsoever. In the cases where they are, there are hopelessly inadequate checks and balances to back up such requirements. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. **I'll make sure that the parents of those killed in Vermont know this fact. I'm sure they will be comforted. Alternatively, you could pull your head out of the sand and admit that the rate of gun violence in the US is simply unacceptable. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. **There is, however, a DIRECT connection between lax, stupid and haphazard gun control laws and the number of people shot to death: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita It is not the number of guns in a society that is a problem. It is WHO is able to access those guns. The US is unique compared to all the other Western, developed nations, WRT the sale of guns (in many jurisdictions) without the requirement of background checks. This was amply demonstrated by the events in Vermont. Worse, in the US secondary gun sales (in many jurisdictions) require no background checks whatsoever. In the cases where they are, there are hopelessly inadequate checks and balances to back up such requirements. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. **I'll make sure that the parents of those killed in Vermont know this fact. I'm sure they will be comforted. Alternatively, you could pull your head out of the sand and admit that the rate of gun violence in the US is simply unacceptable. Just glancing at the chart on NationMaster I see that Spain is 29th. According to Boortz the other day, Span has more homicides by guns than America. I don't recall the site (CDC?) Boortz was quoting from -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"CB" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. **There is, however, a DIRECT connection between lax, stupid and haphazard gun control laws and the number of people shot to death: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita It is not the number of guns in a society that is a problem. It is WHO is able to access those guns. The US is unique compared to all the other Western, developed nations, WRT the sale of guns (in many jurisdictions) without the requirement of background checks. This was amply demonstrated by the events in Vermont. Worse, in the US secondary gun sales (in many jurisdictions) require no background checks whatsoever. In the cases where they are, there are hopelessly inadequate checks and balances to back up such requirements. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. **I'll make sure that the parents of those killed in Vermont know this fact. I'm sure they will be comforted. Alternatively, you could pull your head out of the sand and admit that the rate of gun violence in the US is simply unacceptable. Just glancing at the chart on NationMaster I see that Spain is 29th. According to Boortz the other day, Span has more homicides by guns than America. I don't recall the site (CDC?) Boortz was quoting from **I dunno who Boortz is. I just cite the numbers. If you feel that Spain is misrepresented, then please supply your alternate data. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ... "CB" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. **There is, however, a DIRECT connection between lax, stupid and haphazard gun control laws and the number of people shot to death: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita It is not the number of guns in a society that is a problem. It is WHO is able to access those guns. The US is unique compared to all the other Western, developed nations, WRT the sale of guns (in many jurisdictions) without the requirement of background checks. This was amply demonstrated by the events in Vermont. Worse, in the US secondary gun sales (in many jurisdictions) require no background checks whatsoever. In the cases where they are, there are hopelessly inadequate checks and balances to back up such requirements. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. **I'll make sure that the parents of those killed in Vermont know this fact. I'm sure they will be comforted. Alternatively, you could pull your head out of the sand and admit that the rate of gun violence in the US is simply unacceptable. Just glancing at the chart on NationMaster I see that Spain is 29th. According to Boortz the other day, Span has more homicides by guns than America. I don't recall the site (CDC?) Boortz was quoting from **I dunno who Boortz is. I just cite the numbers. If you feel that Spain is misrepresented, then please supply your alternate data. Boortz is a talk show host who wrote a book on "The Flat Tax" -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Why the NRA Gets Its Way
"CB" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message ... "CB" wrote in message ... "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message .. . "avidlistener" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 12:14 am, "nebulax" wrote: "We are captives, the majority here, of the NRA. To hell with the NRA! What about the society? I don't get it." - Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...tico/main26981... http://www.iza.org/index_html?lang=d...Select=seminar As much as people try to claim otherwise, there is no connection between guns and increases in violence. **There is, however, a DIRECT connection between lax, stupid and haphazard gun control laws and the number of people shot to death: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita It is not the number of guns in a society that is a problem. It is WHO is able to access those guns. The US is unique compared to all the other Western, developed nations, WRT the sale of guns (in many jurisdictions) without the requirement of background checks. This was amply demonstrated by the events in Vermont. Worse, in the US secondary gun sales (in many jurisdictions) require no background checks whatsoever. In the cases where they are, there are hopelessly inadequate checks and balances to back up such requirements. The random acts of a few nut cases who are intent on killing people are not a reason to enact more gun control. **I'll make sure that the parents of those killed in Vermont know this fact. I'm sure they will be comforted. Alternatively, you could pull your head out of the sand and admit that the rate of gun violence in the US is simply unacceptable. Just glancing at the chart on NationMaster I see that Spain is 29th. According to Boortz the other day, Span has more homicides by guns than America. I don't recall the site (CDC?) Boortz was quoting from **I dunno who Boortz is. I just cite the numbers. If you feel that Spain is misrepresented, then please supply your alternate data. Boortz is a talk show host who wrote a book on "The Flat Tax" **A talk show host = Lowest form of human life. If you feel that Spain is misrepresented, please supply your alternate data. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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