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On Feb 28, 6:29 am, "Radium" wrote:
On Feb 27, 9:13 pm, "Mark Jerde" wrote: I would appreciate a *short* summary of the problem(s) you're trying to solve. I don't understand your point(s) from a quick look-see at your post. The problem is that Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite soundcard MIDI synth because of its audio quality. The CMS220 uses a Yamaha YMF262 chip, just as the Sound Blaster Pro I once used. A lot of people actually love the sound of those old FM chips since they sound oddly warm. I myself actually recorded some stuff off my old SoundBlaster just because of the sound of that one chip. It's just to say that I follow you so far. My PC is the only PC that contains SB16 ISA -- which contains CMS220 chip. Currently, my CMS220 works fine, however, due to the laws of physics, its circuits are eventually going to breakdown in my lifetime. I don't want that. If my CMS220 loses its circuits due to old age, I want a replacement or repair. But no one will do that. No one will repair the CMS220 or replace it with an exact replica. Instead -- being the sadistic turds they are -- they will tell me to get a new sound card. Today's sound cards contain soundfonts, softsynths, emulations, or sample playback MIDI synths -- all of which I truly hate. So if my ISA soundcard breaks, I am screwed. I hate this situation. If you are really smitten with the sound of the YMF262, you might try to make a hardware unit that uses this chip. For instance, this one: http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_fm.html I am afraid though that you will have to assemble it yourself. I didn't find any ready-built ones anyway. There are also other cards that use the same chip, like the AdLib, so you might like to check those out. In addition, I would like an upgrade of my existing CMS220. The upgrade should be based on the signals that are phased differently in my current CMS220. I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so called 'karaoke voice canceller' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo channel [right or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels. When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the voice- canceller, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and crisper than when I don't use the voice canceller. I like such qualities. So why don't you keep on using that same effect then? It's no use to change the basic chip to accomodate your wishes. It's like adding a distortion or a phaser to a Gibson Les Paul guitar, where you could simply add those effects yourself. Also, those chips are OLD... they are likely not manufactured anymore. So, my MIDI synth dream would be a mono, 64-bit-resolution, 2.88-Ghz- sample-rate, version of Creative Music Synth [220] based on the signals that were phased differently in the original CMS220. And here is where I totally don't get you anymore. The CMS220 has its parrticular sound qualities just *because* of the severe limitations of its sound chip. Upgrading its resolution and sample rate would actually totally ruin the original characteristics. In short: you'd get more or less the same thing as you can buy already (although without that unrealistically high sample rate). CMS220 is a stereo FM synth who left and right signals are phased differently, this is why I get a different sound when I play throught voice- canceller. The signals of CMS220 that have the same phase for both L and R have a more cheesy sine-wave quality which I don't care for. The signals in CMS220 that are phased differently in L and R tend to resemble a fresher sawtooth-wave quality which I like. That is why I want my version of CMS220 to be based on the sounds that were phased differently in the original CMS220. I want my version to be monoaural because I want all speakers to give out the same signal. Well, I gave you a site where schematics to make your own YMF262-based synthesizer. You could enhance it with anything else you might desire, so why don't you go for it? RS |
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