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Which random influences are affecting me?


All of those things that people don't intentionally hold
constant when they purportedly compare two piece of
gear, or compare sound from audio gear to live sound.

(2) Bias towards perceiving differences in timing and
level, particularly small level variations; as
differences in sound quality.


Agreed. When comparing, one should level match as
closely as is practical in a given circumstance.


But, it doesn't happen very often in the real world.


Of course not. The vast majority of people aren't going
to take the needed gear to their local store, or even
have it in their homes. Once can match as closely as
possible by ear. Certainly not exact, but practical.


Also practically useless.

(3) Bias towards believing what you perceive without
making a thorough investigation of possible causes,
including inability in some cases, to properly do the
same.


Practicality dictates that one believes what one
perceives. The goal of audio is to enjoy the music as
one perceives it.


What people think is practical in cases like these has a
lot to do with their ability to do more detailed
investigations.


Somewhat, sure. But it's more than that.


It's not a free choice until you can do more detailed investigations
whenever you want to.

(4) Bias towards taking recommendations from other
audiophiles, particularly people you feel some kind of
affinity for, at face value and perceiving what they
suggest when listening to items they recommend or
disrecommend.


I generally don't do that.


Actually, you just said you did, and justified it on the
grounds of practicality.


No I didn't. I said that I've purchased gear that is
both well and poorly reviewed.


But reviews aren't the only source of information about gear.


(5) Bias towards thinking that differences you hear
when you listen to a hifi are due to differences in
the audio gear you are listening to.


Actually if anything I have a bias toward no difference.


I'd rather not spend the money ;-)


Most people say that.


"Most" do?

It's just their naivate and lack of introspection
speaking.


Or it's the truth.


If you really grow your mind Jenn, you'll realize that it is often both.


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Which random influences are affecting me?

All of those things that people don't intentionally hold
constant when they purportedly compare two piece of
gear, or compare sound from audio gear to live sound.

(2) Bias towards perceiving differences in timing and
level, particularly small level variations; as
differences in sound quality.

Agreed. When comparing, one should level match as
closely as is practical in a given circumstance.

But, it doesn't happen very often in the real world.


Of course not. The vast majority of people aren't going
to take the needed gear to their local store, or even
have it in their homes. Once can match as closely as
possible by ear. Certainly not exact, but practical.


Also practically useless.


Depends.


(3) Bias towards believing what you perceive without
making a thorough investigation of possible causes,
including inability in some cases, to properly do the
same.

Practicality dictates that one believes what one
perceives. The goal of audio is to enjoy the music as
one perceives it.


What people think is practical in cases like these has a
lot to do with their ability to do more detailed
investigations.


Somewhat, sure. But it's more than that.


It's not a free choice until you can do more detailed investigations
whenever you want to.


Granted, but there isn't totally free choice in every matter in life.


(4) Bias towards taking recommendations from other
audiophiles, particularly people you feel some kind of
affinity for, at face value and perceiving what they
suggest when listening to items they recommend or
disrecommend.


I generally don't do that.


Actually, you just said you did, and justified it on the
grounds of practicality.


No I didn't. I said that I've purchased gear that is
both well and poorly reviewed.


But reviews aren't the only source of information about gear.


Well, I don't have anyone in real life that I discuss audio matters
with, nor do I discuss online other than here and RAHE. I discussed an
upcoming TT purchase here when I first arrived, and I bought something
not discussed here.



(5) Bias towards thinking that differences you hear
when you listen to a hifi are due to differences in
the audio gear you are listening to.

Actually if anything I have a bias toward no difference.

I'd rather not spend the money ;-)


Most people say that.


"Most" do?

It's just their naivate and lack of introspection
speaking.


Or it's the truth.


If you really grow your mind Jenn,


Requisite snot noted.

you'll realize that it is often both.


Or it isn't.
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