[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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"John Atkinson" wrote
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It does matter to Arny Krueger, because he takes it as a
personal affront when someone expresses a preference for
the sound of LPs, as witnessed by his constant
references to "vinyl bigots"
on r.a.o. and his continuing attacks on people like Jenn
who dare give voice to that preference.


The only place I apply the label "Vinyl Bigot" is those
situations where it appears to fit. Trouble is, a place
like RAO seems to attract a goodly and highly vocal
segment of that tiny minority of music lovers whose
preferences appear to be overcome by emotions other than
a desire for the most sonically faithful and literal
reproduction of musical recordings. So, I end up using
it a lot on RAO.

Gosh. Something sounds good to someone. You are an idiot.

Jenn is an interesting case because she is probably the
most extreme case of emotional dependence on the audible
effects of the noise and distortion inherent in vinyl
that I've ever encountered. Presumably she hears lots of
live music, but somehow she misses or even prefers many
audible cues that most people hear but dislike pretty
intensely. She's very adamant about her belief that a
form of digital recording that is well-known to be
highly faithful to the source, is not so faithful.

I think the words I've heard her use are, "The best LPs
sound better to me."

She's said a lot more than that.

You can't handle that, can you?

Attempt to inflame, noted.

Basically, Jenn is a person who believes something like
water naturally flows up hill. This belief is common to
that miniscule percentage of music lovers who will
apparently prefer vinyl to the bitter end. If they
weren't such vigorous proselytizers, there would be
nothing to it. She's like a person who drinks polluted
sea water and brags about how natural and pure it
tastes.

I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in this
post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since you've already
unloaded a goodly number and we're just getting into your post.

Ironic, isn't it?

Yes, someone who complains bitterly about insults while delivering a
fusillade of insults is pretty ironic.

She's the one who was trying to
bring up the level of discourse here.

Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and letting everybody
else take as many shots as they can without signfifcant interferenace from
here. That makes her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

You just *had* to be ****ty, didn't you?

What does this outburst say about you?

You can't help it. It's who you a an anti-social, self-righteous
asshole.

Again, what does this outburst say about you. What about the fact that
you've delivered any number of similar outbursts just lately with minimal
coment from Jenn say about her purported campaign and her?

Here we have incontrovertible proof of Arny's basic
dismissal of any preference that does not meet his own.

Yawn.

Here we have the proof that it is indeed Arny who starts
this crap.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


Someone posted here recently to look up 'extra crispy.' I
did so. From what I saw, it is Arny who has chased a
large amount of poeple from this forum.

Absence of self-awareness noted.

Who can blame them for leaving? When you have a retarded, anti-social
piece of **** like Arny insulting every preference, it
takes the fun out of what could be an enjoyable forum.

Jenn is no doubt ROTFLHAO at this point. Middius is cheering. Everybody is
haveing a good time including me, because I can see the ironic humor of it
all. Welcome to RAO.

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cheap, but the snipped prose is even cheaper

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in this
post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since you've already
unloaded a goodly number and we're just getting into your post.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you alone since
Jenn had asked us to.

I did ask for your definition of insult, twice, which you were
unwilling or incapable of providing.

But (surprise) there's no need for that any more, as you couldn't make
it. You eventually went back to your 'normal' ;-) state as everyone
knew you would.

Ironic, isn't it?

Yes, someone who complains bitterly about insults while delivering a
fusillade of insults is pretty ironic.

Wasn't it you that said you wouldn't insult unless insulted? Please
point out where Jenn has insulted you.

No, you are a lying, insane asshole.

She's the one who was trying to
bring up the level of discourse here.

Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and letting everybody
else take as many shots as they can without signfifcant interferenace from
here. That makes her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Poor Arns! LOL!

You just *had* to be ****ty, didn't you?

What does this outburst say about you?

That you make me do it, Arns.;-)

You can't help it. It's who you a an anti-social, self-righteous
asshole.

Again, what does this outburst say about you. What about the fact that
you've delivered any number of similar outbursts just lately with minimal
coment from Jenn say about her purported campaign and her?

Show me where, Arns, I've 'just lately' given you any negative
attention whatsoever since Jenn asked people to lay off. As I said, I
asked you, twice, for your definition of insult. I asked, just once I
think, for you to point out where an insult was spotted by you. This
was done very politely IMO. If not, provide proof. If you cannot, then
quit lying.

The reason I did that I had to ask was because you noted insults where
no sane person could see one.

Someone posted here recently to look up 'extra crispy.' I
did so. From what I saw, it is Arny who has chased a
large amount of poeple from this forum.

Absence of self-awareness noted.

LMAO!

You're really very funny sometimes. Whether you mean to be or not.;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in
this post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since
you've already unloaded a goodly number and we're just
getting into your post.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

I don't notice imaginary non-events very well.

You could have expressed yourself without all the profane fire and smoke, or
maybe not. Personally, I think you are pretty out-of-control, just about all
the time. I notice you hide behind an alias. I don't blame you for that!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

I don't notice imaginary non-events very well.

Please provide any post, other than those that I described, directed at
you during time since Jenn asked for a truce.

You could have expressed yourself without all the profane fire and smoke, or
maybe not. Personally, I think you are pretty out-of-control, just about all
the time. I notice you hide behind an alias. I don't blame you for that!

Isn't it a good thing that I don't care what you think, any more than
you care what others think?

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

I don't notice imaginary non-events very well.

Please provide any post, other than those that I
described, directed at you during time since Jenn asked
for a truce.

Since you don't care what I post, there is no logical reason for me to go to
this trouble.

You could have expressed yourself without all the
profane fire and smoke, or maybe not. Personally, I
think you are pretty out-of-control, just about all the
time. I notice you hide behind an alias. I don't blame
you for that!

Isn't it a good thing that I don't care what you think,
any more than you care what others think?

Since you don't care what I think, there is no reason for you to ever again
comment on any of my posts. Being a fine reasonable person, you will never
again comment on any of my posts, right?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Arny Krueger wrote:
Since you don't care what I post, there is no logical reason for me to go to
this trouble.

Translation: "I can't because they do not exist."

Since you don't care what I think, there is no reason for you to ever again
comment on any of my posts. Being a fine reasonable person, you will never
again comment on any of my posts, right?

Wrongo, sphincter breath. I will comment on your posts as I see fit,
exactly because I am a 'fine reasonable person.'

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" spewed:


Isn't it a good thing that I don't care what you think,

Arny Krueger wrote:

Since you don't care what I post, there is no logical
reason for me to go to this trouble.

Translation: "I can't because they do not exist."

Non sequitur.

Since you don't care what I think, there is no reason
for you to ever again comment on any of my posts. Being
a fine reasonable person, you will never again comment
on any of my posts, right?

I will comment on your posts as
I see fit, exactly because I am a 'fine reasonable
person.'

Non sequitur.

[Jenn]

In article . com,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in this
post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since you've already
unloaded a goodly number and we're just getting into your post.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you alone since
Jenn had asked us to.

Thanks for trying.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
message

In article
. com,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"


I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in
this post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since
you've already unloaded a goodly number and we're just
getting into your post.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

Thanks for trying.

The coach encourages her team.

It's an old strategy, folks. The coach doesn't get her hands dirty, but
leaves the dirty work up to others.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Arny Krueger wrote:

It's an old strategy, folks. I pretend not to be insane. It goes as it comes, like the ebb-and-flow of a severed artery like my own. Not! My medication is wearing off. I must masturbate some more. Lot';S!

It will all be OK, Arns. Just relax.

[George M. Middius]

Paranoa™Borg has uncovered another malevolent plot to humiliate him.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

Thanks for trying.

The coach encourages her team.

Arnii, out of curiosity, does your raging paranoia also lead you to
believe that gravity has been reversed? You seem to have everything
backwards today, including your demand that Jenn "prove" water doesn't run
uphill.

It's an old strategy, folks. The coach doesn't get her hands dirty, but
leaves the dirty work up to others.

When did you "discover" that Jenn was the mastermind behind all the
conspiracies to destroy you, Arnii? In the past, you've attributed the
leadership role mostly to Lord Atkinson, and occasionally to me. Now,
after all these years, you seem to have "realized" that all along, it was
Jenn. I'm not disparaging your fabled powers of deduction -- I'd just like
to know what gave her away.




--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[John Atkinson]

George M. Middius wrote:
Paranoa„¢Borg has uncovered another malevolent plot to humiliate him.
It's an old strategy, folks. The coach doesn't get her hands dirty, but
leaves the dirty work up to others.

When did you "discover" that Jenn was the mastermind behind all the
conspiracies to destroy you, Arnii? In the past, you've attributed the
leadership role mostly to Lord Atkinson, and occasionally to me. Now,
after all these years, you seem to have "realized" that all along, it was
Jenn. I'm not disparaging your fabled powers of deduction -- I'd just like
to know what gave her away.

I think your question will be found baffling, George. In the past,
Arny Krueger has suggested that you are really me (or was it I
am really you?). I imagine that he is beginning to suspect that
Jenn is really you (or me). :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[George M. Middius]

John Atkinson said:

Paranoa™Borg has uncovered another malevolent plot to humiliate him.

It's an old strategy, folks. The coach doesn't get her hands dirty, but
leaves the dirty work up to others.

When did you "discover" that Jenn was the mastermind behind all the
conspiracies to destroy you, Arnii? In the past, you've attributed the
leadership role mostly to Lord Atkinson, and occasionally to me. Now,
after all these years, you seem to have "realized" that all along, it was
Jenn. I'm not disparaging your fabled powers of deduction -- I'd just like
to know what gave her away.

I think your question will be found baffling, George. In the past,
Arny Krueger has suggested that you are really me (or was it I
am really you?). I imagine that he is beginning to suspect that
Jenn is really you (or me). :-)

You never can tell what Arnii suspects. ;-) Go figure.™ Aside from the
"fact" that we're all indistinguishable, nobody has yet proven to Mr.
Krooger's satisfaction that Marc and Scott Wheeler and Sander aren't the
real puppetmasters. Even that intellectual juggernaut from Florida has
opined that all of us amount only to two or three individuals.

N.B.: I am not you, and neither is dave.





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Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article
. com,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"


I'll take this to mean that you don't want to play nice
any more, since you've insulted her several times in
this post.

It appears that insults don't bother you ****R, since
you've already unloaded a goodly number and we're just
getting into your post.

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you
alone since Jenn had asked us to.

Thanks for trying.

The coach encourages her team.

It's an old strategy, folks. The coach doesn't get her hands dirty, but
leaves the dirty work up to others.

lol. It's all a big conspiracy Arny. Good on you for finding it out.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

You perhaps didn't notice that I'd pretty well left you alone since
Jenn had asked us to.

Thanks for trying.

I tried too. (A little.)




--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and letting everybody
else take as many shots as they can without signfifcant interferenace from
here. That makes her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the agent of change;
to be the person with class. That you failed to take me up on that
opportunity speaks only to your obvious need to be something else.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and
letting everybody else take as many shots as they can
without signfifcant interferenace from here. That makes
her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the
agent of change; to be the person with class.

Jenn, you seem to be agressively hard to educate. I'm not the only or even
the major problem around here.

Until you target the major problems, everything else is futile.

That you failed to take me up on that opportunity speaks only to
your obvious need to be something else.

Jenn its easy to be a do-gooder when you let other people do your dirty
work. The only reason why you're so worried about me is how effective I am
at making your position so clear. You want me to do something you could
never do, and insult me when I'm not 100 times better than you.

[Harry Lavo]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and
letting everybody else take as many shots as they can
without signfifcant interferenace from here. That makes
her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the
agent of change; to be the person with class.

Jenn, you seem to be agressively hard to educate. I'm not the only or even
the major problem around here.

Until you target the major problems, everything else is futile.

That you failed to take me up on that opportunity speaks only to
your obvious need to be something else.

Jenn its easy to be a do-gooder when you let other people do your dirty
work. The only reason why you're so worried about me is how effective I am
at making your position so clear. You want me to do something you could
never do, and insult me when I'm not 100 times better than you.


I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or scream. This is so blatently and
patently rediculous after the two day hiatus we went through including the
early stages of your increasing attempts to insult Jenn, that I can only
conclude you are either very messed up mentally, or you simply are playing
games and are content to look that way. No other explanation makes much
sense.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and
letting everybody else take as many shots as they can
without signfifcant interferenace from here. That makes
her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the
agent of change; to be the person with class.

Jenn, you seem to be agressively hard to educate. I'm not the only or even
the major problem around here.

I didn't say that you were, Arny. Let me say again: You were given the
chance to be the hero; to change the atmosphere around here. YOU could
have changed things. Instead we get excuses and more "snot". Obviously
you don't want things to change.


Until you target the major problems, everything else is futile.

One at a time. If you had taken away the fuel, there would be no fire.


That you failed to take me up on that opportunity speaks only to
your obvious need to be something else.

Jenn its easy to be a do-gooder when you let other people do your dirty
work.

Stop right there. You, as always, presume some kind of ulterior motive.
You are wrong. I'm not "letting others do my dirty work." Grow up and
take responsibility for YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

The only reason why you're so worried about me is how effective I am
at making your position so clear. You want me to do something you could
never do,

What's that, Arny?

and insult me when I'm not 100 times better than you.

Arny the amount of snot that you spread is far, far more than I could
ever do. Don't you see that?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and
letting everybody else take as many shots as they can
without signfifcant interferenace from here. That makes
her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the
agent of change; to be the person with class.

Jenn, you seem to be agressively hard to educate. I'm
not the only or even the major problem around here.

I didn't say that you were, Arny. Let me say again: You
were given the chance to be the hero; to change the
atmosphere around here. YOU could have changed things.
Instead we get excuses and more "snot". Obviously you
don't want things to change.


Until you target the major problems, everything else is
futile.

One at a time. If you had taken away the fuel, there
would be no fire.

It appears that there is no amount of evidence or logic that will convince
you of the futility of that assertion.

That you failed to take me up on that opportunity
speaks only to your obvious need to be something else.

Jenn its easy to be a do-gooder when you let other
people do your dirty work.

Stop right there. You, as always, presume some kind of
ulterior motive.

Delusions of omniscience noted. You don't know what I *always* do because
you don't monitor my life 24/7.

You are wrong. I'm not "letting others do my dirty work."

Jenn, you are obviously unable to connect your own dotted lines.

Grow up and take responsibility for YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

I think that statement says more than enough about you Jenn, to end this
part of the discussion.

[George M. Middius]

Arnii "You're not my mommy!" Krooger said:

Grow up and take responsibility for YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

I think that statement says more than enough about you Jenn

To me (and probably to most of us), that statement says that Jenn has lost
patience with trying to indulge you in the hope that you'll impart some
useful information.



--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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com
In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:


Wrong. All Jenn is doing is targeting me repeatedly and
letting everybody else take as many shots as they can
without signfifcant interferenace from here. That makes
her a Middius clone, differing only slightly in tone.

Incorrect. I was giving you an opportunity to be the
agent of change; to be the person with class.

Jenn, you seem to be agressively hard to educate. I'm
not the only or even the major problem around here.

I didn't say that you were, Arny. Let me say again: You
were given the chance to be the hero; to change the
atmosphere around here. YOU could have changed things.
Instead we get excuses and more "snot". Obviously you
don't want things to change.


Until you target the major problems, everything else is
futile.

One at a time. If you had taken away the fuel, there
would be no fire.

It appears that there is no amount of evidence or logic that will convince
you of the futility of that assertion.

Why wouldn't you give it a chance? It works in other situations.


That you failed to take me up on that opportunity
speaks only to your obvious need to be something else.

Jenn its easy to be a do-gooder when you let other
people do your dirty work.

Stop right there. You, as always, presume some kind of
ulterior motive.

Delusions of omniscience noted. You don't know what I *always* do because
you don't monitor my life 24/7.

Always = around here, obviously.


You are wrong. I'm not "letting others do my dirty work."

Jenn, you are obviously unable to connect your own dotted lines.

I'm simply speaking the truth.


Grow up and take responsibility for YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

I think that statement says more than enough about you Jenn, to end this
part of the discussion.

Surrender accepted.

[Sander deWaal]

Jenn said:


Arny the amount of snot that you spread is far, far more than I could
ever do. Don't you see that?


Sadly, he doesn't, Jenn.

I'm not going to say "See, told you so!", because that would blow my
cover as a Middius/Atkinson/Jenn/Packer/McElroy/Stevenson/Dormer/
Broens/Ferstler/Phillips/Sackman sockpuppet.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."