[Radium]

Richard Crowley wrote:
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Richard Crowley wrote:
"Radium" wrote ...
Laurence Payne wrote:
"Radium" wrote:

Whenever I buy a CD, I put my favorite songs in my PC. I use Wavelab
or
Adobe Audition to convert the stereo file to mono.

Why?

Because:

1. I want things to sound the same in all speakers

That makes no sense at all.

How doesn't it?

2. I do not want the original central channel to be louder than the
original signals that are different in both the left and right. Since
the central channel is normally recorded noticeably louder than the
signals that are not in phase, I like to decrease the volume of the
center by 77.5% while decreasing the periphery by only 50%

Stereo is two channels by definition. There is no "central channel".

Yes. Stereo is two channels. However, most of today's music contains
audio is in-phase for both L and R channels -- usually the lead vocals,
basses, and percussions, and audio that phases differently in L and R
channels -- usually the pianos, guitars, choruses, and synth pads.

By the "central channel", I am reffering to the parts of the signal
stuff that is in-phase for both L and R channels.

Sorry to hear that the only kind of "music" you listen to is over-
processed pan-pot multi-mono. Get out and hear some real music
sometime.

Those so-called "voice cancellors" rely on the assumption that the lead
vocals are in the center. Voice-cancellors work by inverting the phase
of one stereo channel and combining it with the other. This results in
an end mono signal without the audio that was identical in the L and R
channels when the signals were stereo. Because of this method, most
"vocal eliminators" also end up removing the bass and percussive
instruments.

I don't see what this has to do with your preference for listening
to stereo program material in monaural? But never mind, I have
not understood the purpose or motivation of any other parts of
this thread, either, so I'll leave you to it.

I don't want too much lead vocal. That the main reason. The other
reason is I prefer both my ears to be equal when listening to music
from an electronic source.



IOW, what in-phase and whats not in-phase should not have any
noticeably differences in volume and all audio channels should give out
the same signal.


Does color television trouble you?

Not at all.

Only have black & white?

Sorry. I don't understand your analogy. Please explain.

Squashing stereo back to monaural seems very much like
removing the color from video. It takes technology in a "retro"
direction (i.e. backwards.)

Not really. Initally, I need the recording to be stereo, so that I can
decrease the volume of the lead vocals.

Do one thing. Try listening to a non-WMA compression file -- such as
MP3 -- whose format is in stereo -- or better yet, 7.1 surround -- with
a sample-rate of 44.1 khz, and a bit-rate of 20 kbps. Tell me how you
like it -- if you can still keep your sanity.

[Richard Crowley]

"Radium" wrote ...
Do one thing. Try listening to a non-WMA compression file -- such as
MP3 -- whose format is in stereo -- or better yet, 7.1 surround --
with
a sample-rate of 44.1 khz, and a bit-rate of 20 kbps. Tell me how you
like it -- if you can still keep your sanity.

Listening to anyting at 20Kbps is insane by definition.
Why would I do such a silly thing in the first place?

I don't really have any interest in playing the audio
compression version of "How Low Can You Go?"
I'll leave you kids to your games.