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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. Though for the record I can state that IMHO hifi and equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most porabably Jenn would also have such an IHHO (in her humble opinion) too.  So Arny, here's another reason why you should be BAD and BAD BAD and BAD BAD BAD to Jenn. Jennnn Jnennn, thank you jenen for proving to us, jeen, that, you hate menn and equalizers jnenn, etc, you know the drill. Suggestion for this thread: Let's bracnh out, and carry the different subthreads of this thread to new threads. This thread is getting to be soooo long that just opening up its tree takes some 5-6 seconds! which is way too much time for a busy-schedule-guy like me self. Thanks. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Fella" wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. IME, you're pretty hysterical about them. And BTW what do I mean by hysterical? I mean that your actions w/r/t equalizers are dictated by emotions, as opposed to reason. Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable. Though for the record I can state that IMHO hifi and equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most porabably Jenn would also have such an IHHO (in her humble opinion) too. Thanks for confirming my recollections about you, Fella. snip gratuitous personal attacks |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Fella" wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your comments on electronics. Looks like my prognostications were right-on. So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this into a dog fight? (I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as well...) ;-) |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message t Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your comments on electronics. When is it that outright lying called "I discerned your thinking" .. etc? I know when... When arny krueger does it! Why didn't you just admit to having confused the OP and thats that? Why did you need to lie? So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this into a dog fight? What _is_ the topic arn ol chum? That IMHO eqs are no good? Which part of "IMHO" do you not understand? Thanks. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Fella" wrote in message
news  Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your comments on electronics. When is it that outright lying called "I discerned your thinking" .. etc? I know when... When arny krueger does it! So, you're going the dogfight route. Are you predictable or what, Fella? Why didn't you just admit to having confused the OP and thats that? Why did you need to lie? So, you're going as far as you can with the dogfight route. Are you predictable or what, Fella? So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this into a dog fight? What _is_ the topic arn ol chum? It seems obvious that you are attempting to start a dogfight with "STFU". Basically, you're saying that only opinons that agree with yours should be posted. That IMHO eqs are no good? Which part of "IMHO" do you not understand? Thanks. Certainly the "humble" part of IMHO doesn't apply to you, Fella. If you don't want people to comment on your opinions Fella, why post them in front of the whole world? |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message news
Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message t Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message . net Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your comments on electronics. When is it that outright lying called "I discerned your thinking" .. etc? I know when... When arny krueger does it! So, you're going the dogfight route. Are you predictable or what, Fella? Why didn't you just admit to having confused the OP and thats that? Why did you need to lie? So, you're going as far as you can with the dogfight route. Are you predictable or what, Fella? So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this into a dog fight? What _is_ the topic arn ol chum? It seems obvious that you are attempting to start a dogfight with "STFU". Basically, you're saying that only opinons that agree with yours should be posted. That IMHO eqs are no good? Which part of "IMHO" do you not understand? Thanks. Certainly the "humble" part of IMHO doesn't apply to you, Fella. If you don't want people to comment on your opinions Fella, why post them in front of the whole world? Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Fella" wrote in message
Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! Yet another RAO melt-down. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
"Fella" wrote in message Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! Yet another RAO melt-down. BTW, Fella seems to invented a new conundrum. He's calling me a liar while affirming the facts that I presented about his position. Only on RAO? LOL! |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message "Fella" wrote in message t Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! Yet another RAO melt-down. BTW, Fella seems to invented a new conundrum. He's calling me a liar while affirming the facts that I presented about his position. Only on RAO? LOL! Now what? Am I supposed to start explaining that arny, ol chum, you said that "No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past" when it was the first time I had ever spoken about them, so you turned out to be a liar, etc.. Why? But arn, ol chum, gotta admire the sheer amount of pure darkness your twisted, sneaky debating trade tactics generate. It's phenomenal ol chum, the amount of BAD you are able to generate and dissipate. What a rotten rotten rotten heart you must have. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Fella" wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message "Fella" wrote in message Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! Yet another RAO melt-down. BTW, Fella seems to invented a new conundrum. He's calling me a liar while affirming the facts that I presented about his position. Only on RAO? LOL! Now what? Am I supposed to start explaining that arny, ol chum, you said that "No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past" when it was the first time I had ever spoken about them, so you turned out to be a liar, etc.. Why? How many times do I have to explain it to you, Fella? I correctly perceived all along that when you were saying all those strange things about electronics in the past, you meant them to apply to equalizers as well. It's just like realizing that if someone says strange things about meat, it probably applies to beef. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. IME, you're pretty hysterical about them. And BTW what do I mean by hysterical? I mean that your actions w/r/t equalizers are dictated by emotions, as opposed to reason. Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable. Though for the record I can state that IMHO hifi and equalizers have nothing to do with each other. And most porabably Jenn would also have such an IHHO (in her humble opinion) too. Thanks for confirming my recollections about you, Fella. snip gratuitous personal attacks ================================ Krueger says: Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable. A blanket, meaningless spout. Recording engineers do all kinds of things. They use mikes to record. Should one use a mike at home to record their records? Some do it well some abominably. I have no idea how much, when and where did such as John McClure use equalisers. Nor I'd guess have you. But the idea that one can always correct with a domestic 10 band "parametric" equaliser what the worst of them botched up in production seems worthy of this Gulliver. At best one combs it down to the bland Best Buy "system" quality plus added distortion-signature equaliser. Ludovic Mirabel |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
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ps.com Arny Krueger wrote: Krueger says: Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable. A blanket, meaningless spout. Details have been provided. Recording engineers do all kinds of things. They use mikes to record. Should one use a mike at home to record their records? Meaningless posturing. Some do it well some abominably. I have no idea how much, when and where did such as John McClure use equalisers. So why intrude your ignorance on these proceedings? Nor I'd guess have you. But the idea that one can always correct with a domestic 10 band "parametric" equaliser what the worst of them botched up in production seems worthy of this Gulliver. That would be your idea Mirabel, not mine. At best one combs it down to the bland Best Buy "system" quality plus added distortion-signature equaliser. Whatever that means. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On 19 Oct 2006 11:22:49 -0700, " wrote: He recommends equalisers - any equalisers- as a solution for poor records. He never noticed how most of them degrade the sound.. Fella seems to have no idea how many eqs ... Arny seems to have his knickers in a knot, confused and dazed with envy, hate and blind prejudice as usual, as I have not made the above quoted comments about equalizers. No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past, Fella. Arn ol chum you just proved yourself a liar, yet again, arn ol chum. The above was the first time I ever talked about equalizers around here... OK, Fella I admit it, I discerned your thinking about equalizers from your comments on electronics. Looks like my prognostications were right-on. So Fella, are you going to get back on topic or keep on trying to turn this into a dog fight? (I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as well...) ;-) LMAO! So we can add 'perfeshinol mindreader' to your CV along with being a perfeshinol rekordist and just one damned fine human being overall. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Shhhh! said: (I think I can accurately prognosticate the outcome to this issue as well...) ;-) LMAO! That's what Poopie said, but he was exaggerating. So we can add 'perfeshinol mindreader' to your CV along with being a perfeshinol rekordist and just one damned fine human being overall. LOL. It would be funny to compile all of Krooger's whacked-out klaims from his Usenet posts into a résumé. -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote in message oups.com wrote: Krueger says: Why not address the issues I raised, such as the fact that modern production and reproduction chains are full of equalizers, just ones that aren't user-adjustable. A blanket, meaningless spout. Recording engineers do all kinds of things. They use mikes to record. Should one use a mike at home to record their records? Adding background tracks to your recordings may help too. Recording engineers do this as well. Les Paul would put his finger on the tape spool to get different effects. That's apparently worth a try. Recording a solo backwards and then playing it forwards has been done too... That's not the sort of recording that I do, or am interested in. My primary focus is to create satisfying recordings of live performances that have fidelity to the origional live perforamances. Other forms of recording are fine for people who wish to pursue them. I enjoy some recordings made that way. I just don't do that myself. That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift, harmonizers, aural exciters, and so on, or different effects from different mic placement. Only the last item - mic choice and placement has any interest to me of all the items in this list. I hope Arny will let us know how to use these effects in our home recordings as well. Unlikely. High fidelity to Arny appears to mean absolute accuracy to the original recording (unless it doesn't). Absolute accuracy is an unreachable goal with current technology. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
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oups.com You got it. Advice from Arny: use equaliser at home. If the shoe fits.... Equalisers are good. They are problem-solvers. If you don't have the problem they address, then obviously don't use them! Proof: engineers use them all the time making records. Thus we can conclude that equalizers have a role in the reproduction of music. So you use equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised. If what they did does not concur with your preferences, what other options exist? That will restore things to absolute accuracy. Gratuitous insertion of the word absolute makes this an excluded-middle argument. That what in Krueger-pedia is also called Hi-Fi. Nahh, this post is about Mirabel's dogmatic posturing and distortions of the truth. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message You got it. Advice from Arny: use equaliser at home. If the shoe fits.... Equalisers are good. They are problem-solvers. If you don't have the problem they address, then obviously don't use them! Proof: engineers use them all the time making records. Thus we can conclude that equalizers have a role in the reproduction of music. No. We can conclude that they have a role in music production only from this. Not reproduction. Graham |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Eeyore wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message You got it. Advice from Arny: use equaliser at home. If the shoe fits.... Equalisers are good. They are problem-solvers. If you don't have the problem they address, then obviously don't use them! Proof: engineers use them all the time making records. Thus we can conclude that equalizers have a role in the reproduction of music. No. We can conclude that they have a role in music production only from this. Not reproduction. Graham By now it should be obvious that trying to get Krueger to stick to common sense is like.. Think of an apt metaphor; blood- stone? He is in it to win on points. And if he can't bluff any longer he just clams up and waits for another chance. Ludovic Mirabel |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Stuart Krivis" wrote in message
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:09:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift, harmonizers, aural exciters, and so on, or different effects from different mic placement. Only the last item - mic choice and placement has any interest to me of all the items in this list. Both mic choice and placement can produce what one can only call "effects." I'll go along with that. Well, effects or lack of them. Are these effects then more valid than adding chorus or reverb electronically? Depends on the sonic believability of the electronic means. Lately, the electronic means for adding reverb have gotten to be pretty good. I can't say that about chorus. One *approved* (in some quarters) means for recording music in bad-sounding spaces is to close-mic the instruments and voices to attenuate the adverse affects of the space, unwind some of the adverse effects of close-micing with eq, and provide better-sounding reverb artificially. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Stuart Krivis wrote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:12:49 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: So you use equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised. If what they did does not concur with your preferences, what other options exist? With this statement, you would seem to be agreeing with the people who, for instance, prefer vinyl records. After all, if a recording on CD does not concur with your preferences, another option is vinyl. Mangling the reproduced sound with a equalizer is just as valid as mangling it with vinyl. (Or teensy triode amps or...) You beat me to it about the SET amplifiers. If that's what rocks your boat, that's fine. I guess some ppl might like tomato ketchup on smoked salmon too but I don't. Graham |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Stuart Krivis wrote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:09:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift, harmonizers, aural exciters, and so on, or different effects from different mic placement. Only the last item - mic choice and placement has any interest to me of all the items in this list. Both mic choice and placement can produce what one can only call "effects." Are these effects then more valid than adding chorus or reverb electronically? Talking of effects, how about the use of the Aphex Aural Exciter on Fleetwood Mac's album Rumours ? Graham |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Fella" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message om "Fella" wrote in message t Hear ye! Hear ye! All ye RAOing do-gooder mortals. A FINE specimen example of the krooborg exhibiting Kroologic embedded in krooglish with the lowest low of the shameless "debating trade" tactics is laid out before your eyes! What agaony! Oh! The AGONY! Yet another RAO melt-down. BTW, Fella seems to invented a new conundrum. He's calling me a liar while affirming the facts that I presented about his position. Only on RAO? LOL! Now what? Am I supposed to start explaining that arny, ol chum, you said that "No, but you have said a lot of strange things about equalizers in the past" when it was the first time I had ever spoken about them, so you turned out to be a liar, etc.. Why? How many times do I have to explain it to you, Fella? I correctly perceived No you LIED. You wrote that I had written many times about equalizers here. That was a lie. Now shut up. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Stuart Krivis wrote: Eeyore wrote: Stuart Krivis wrote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:09:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: That doesn't even begin to discuss chorus, phase shift, harmonizers, aural exciters, and so on, or different effects from different mic placement. Only the last item - mic choice and placement has any interest to me of all the items in this list. Both mic choice and placement can produce what one can only call "effects." Are these effects then more valid than adding chorus or reverb electronically? Talking of effects, how about the use of the Aphex Aural Exciter on Fleetwood Mac's album Rumours ? I didn't think Aphex had been around that long. Sure has. That was its classic first high prominence use. Graham |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Stuart Krivis wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:10:09 +0100, Eeyore wrote: Talking of effects, how about the use of the Aphex Aural Exciter on Fleetwood Mac's album Rumours ? I didn't think Aphex had been around that long. Sure has. That was its classic first high prominence use. I'll be darned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphex_Systems says they were founded in '75. Back in those days you couldn't buy one either. They were only available to rent. I guess people jus like a little bit of crud added to their music. :-) Just like SETs. Graham |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Stuart Krivis said:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:12:49 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: So you use equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised. If what they did does not concur with your preferences, what other options exist? With this statement, you would seem to be agreeing with the people who, for instance, prefer vinyl records. After all, if a recording on CD does not concur with your preferences, another option is vinyl. Mangling the reproduced sound with a equalizer is just as valid as mangling it with vinyl. (Or teensy triode amps or...) Cat got your tongue, Arny? ;-) -- "Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks." |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Sander deWaal wrote: Stuart Krivis said: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:12:49 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: So you use equaliser at home to deequalise what they equalised. If what they did does not concur with your preferences, what other options exist? With this statement, you would seem to be agreeing with the people who, for instance, prefer vinyl records. After all, if a recording on CD does not concur with your preferences, another option is vinyl. Mangling the reproduced sound with a equalizer is just as valid as mangling it with vinyl. (Or teensy triode amps or...) Cat got your tongue, Arny? ;-) ============================== Mr. DeWaal asks: Cat got your tongue, Arny? ;-) Mr. daWaal. I saw the big Siamese coming near. . Four days ago I said: "This time I anticipate another switching to "mute" and then the irrepressible Gulliver*, relying on short memorie, will pop up somewhere again " Ludovic Mirabel #He said he felt like Gullivewr amongst the Liliputians. It is well-known Liliputs own big hungry cats all named Jenn. -- |
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Signal said: I think the best we can do is to reproduce the finished recording as accurately as possible. Euphony is the better goal, because listening to music isn't a formal exercise. If that means the "performance" continues at home, there's nothing wrong with that. The goal of accurate reproduction is often misplaced in my opinion. If you seek immersion in music and sound, accuracy should be a secondary concern. That horrible sound you hear? 'Borgs all over the world are shrieking in pain as you defile their god. -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
wrote in message oups.com... Mr. daWaal. I saw the big Siamese coming near. . Four days ago I said: "This time I anticipate another switching to "mute" and then the irrepressible Gulliver*, relying on short memorie, will pop up somewhere again " I've been here all along, as my posting record on Google shows. No, I long ago listened that when a number of people start shouting idiocy at the top of their lungs, just wait them out. They'll tire themselves out and grow quiet. No need to try to outshout them. |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
"Signal" wrote in message ... Stuart Krivis wrote: I think the best we can do is to reproduce the finished recording as accurately as possible. Whatever that means. Euphony is the better goal, because listening to music isn't a formal exercise. This may or may not be the case. For example, I produce a fair number of recordings of performances that are made at formal competitions. The people who listen to these recordings have a formal interest in them. If that means the "performance" continues at home, there's nothing wrong with that. Agreed. The goal of accurate reproduction is often misplaced in my opinion. Agreed. In fact recordings are often anything but accurate and rather intentionally so. For example, as soon as a badly-sung or played note or measure is *corrected*, the recording stops being accurate. That wouldn't happen to a recording of a performance at a formal competition, but it could make sense with a recording of a live performance or studio work that is being produced for the purpose of entertainment, or self-actualization. If you seek immersion in music and sound, accuracy should be a secondary concern. I think that some of the most immersive recordings around can be found in the sound tracks of computer games. It is also some of the most highly-produced recording work there is. Significant EFX may be applied during the operation of the game, based on the action. |
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Mr. daWaal. I saw the big Siamese coming near. . Four days ago I said: "This time I anticipate another switching to "mute" and then the irrepressible Gulliver*, relying on short memorie, will pop up somewhere again " Ludovic Mirabel #He said he felt like Gullivewr amongst the Liliputians. It is well-known Liliputs own big hungry cats all named Jenn. Excluded middle strawman red herring noted, Lot:'S! ;-) -- "Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks." |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Mr. daWaal. I saw the big Siamese coming near. . Four days ago I said: "This time I anticipate another switching to "mute" and then the irrepressible Gulliver*, relying on short memorie, will pop up somewhere again " I've been here all along, as my posting record on Google shows. No, I long ago listened that when a number of people start shouting idiocy at the top of their lungs, just wait them out. They'll tire themselves out and grow quiet. No need to try to outshout them. ==================================== The Prince of Darkness... No, No No - demonising Arny would just make him feel even more self important than he already does..Rather a Master of Confusion Going mute in your case means shutting up when unable to answer. I showed not for the first time that your ABX for component comparison is piffle, never validated by experimental research fit for publication in a professional journal. Cruelty is not my thing. If you did not provoke me I would let you splutter to your heart content. . But you must make irrelevant noises- it is in your nature. So... Ludovic Mirabel |
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Why Arny does not STFU? A spinoff thread, as it were..
wrote in message
oups.com Going mute in your case means shutting up when unable to answer. As you wish Mirabel, it is true that I am sometimes at a loss to answer idiocy. I showed not for the first time that your ABX for component comparison is piffle, never validated by experimental research fit for publication in a professional journal. You've got me confused with someone who cares. Cruelty is not my thing. If you did not provoke me I would let you splutter to your heart content. . But you must make irrelevant noises- it is in your nature. So... Ya got to work on that self-awareness thing, Mirabe;. You've described yourself to a "T". |
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