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"Vintage Lovers" will disagree with me, but the direct
drive tables of the 70's/early 80's, while beautifully
built, were often sonically inferior to good belt
drive tables such as those manufactured by Linn,
Ariston, Thorens, etc.


Belt drive turntables have an inherent property that
endears them to "audible differences" addicts like
Harry. The belts all slip. Without constant monitoring,
belt drive turntables play LPs at different speeds.
That makes them sound different, just pleasing the "It all
sounds different" bigots among us.


Direct-drive turntables are bound and determined to
play recordings that the same speed, reducing the
exciting audible differences that make Harry's world go 'round.
Furthermore, direct drive turntables all use negative
feedback, and every true-blue audiophile knows how
negative feedback craps up the sound. ;-)


What utter, bigoted, tripe, Arny!


Harry, why not tell us about all of the precise
measurements of turntable speed that you have made in
the past say 5 years.


You OTOH have a habit of making up "tests" and
"measurements" that never occurred.


Thanks for admitting how ignorant you are about turntable tests and
measurements, Maggie. Testing the speed of turntables is very basic and
easy, and can be done in very little time with negligable effort using test
equipment that costs virtually nothing.



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"Vintage Lovers" will disagree with me, but the direct
drive tables of the 70's/early 80's, while beautifully
built, were often sonically inferior to good belt
drive tables such as those manufactured by Linn,
Ariston, Thorens, etc.

Belt drive turntables have an inherent property that
endears them to "audible differences" addicts like
Harry. The belts all slip. Without constant monitoring,
belt drive turntables play LPs at different speeds.
That makes them sound different, just pleasing the "It all
sounds different" bigots among us.

Direct-drive turntables are bound and determined to
play recordings that the same speed, reducing the
exciting audible differences that make Harry's world go 'round.
Furthermore, direct drive turntables all use negative
feedback, and every true-blue audiophile knows how
negative feedback craps up the sound. ;-)

What utter, bigoted, tripe, Arny!

Harry, why not tell us about all of the precise
measurements of turntable speed that you have made in
the past say 5 years.


You OTOH have a habit of making up "tests" and
"measurements" that never occurred.


Thanks for admitting how ignorant you are about turntable tests and
measurements, Maggie. Testing the speed of turntables is very basic and
easy, and can be done in very little time with negligable effort using
test equipment that costs virtually nothing.


What you don't have is a decent turntable, you dumb ass liar.





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Margaret von B said to CheapskateBorg:

turntable tests and measurements
Testing
test equipment


What you don't have is a decent turntable, you dumb ass liar.


Maybe not, but according to the Laws of Krooscience, such a possession is
unnecessary. I'm sure you know this, Margaret, but I'll recap it anyway.
It is a Known Fact that turntables are inferior to digital media.
Therefore, all "tests" performed by the Krooborg are certain to show what
is already known, i.e. that turntables are noisy and erratic in speed.

Hivieism tells us that "tests" are more meaningful than simply listening.
This is an article of Their faith. If They accept the premise that Normals
can base their choices on just listening, they will be forced to submit to
reprogramming or even reorientation. Even 'borgs don't like doing that.




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"Vintage Lovers" will disagree with me, but the
direct drive tables of the 70's/early 80's, while
beautifully built, were often sonically inferior to
good belt drive tables such as those manufactured
by Linn, Ariston, Thorens, etc.

Belt drive turntables have an inherent property that
endears them to "audible differences" addicts like
Harry. The belts all slip. Without constant
monitoring, belt drive turntables play LPs at different speeds.
That makes them sound different, just pleasing the
"It all sounds different" bigots among us.

Direct-drive turntables are bound and determined to
play recordings that the same speed, reducing the
exciting audible differences that make Harry's world
go 'round. Furthermore, direct drive turntables all
use negative feedback, and every true-blue
audiophile knows how negative feedback craps up the sound. ;-)

What utter, bigoted, tripe, Arny!

Harry, why not tell us about all of the precise
measurements of turntable speed that you have made in
the past say 5 years.


You OTOH have a habit of making up "tests" and
"measurements" that never occurred.


Thanks for admitting how ignorant you are about
turntable tests and measurements, Maggie. Testing the
speed of turntables is very basic and easy, and can be
done in very little time with negligable effort using
test equipment that costs virtually nothing.


What you don't have is a decent turntable, you dumb ass
liar.


OK Maggie, list out the complete inventory of turntables in my posession, or
admit that you're just mouthing off again.


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