Hello, I haven't posted here before but here's a question:

I always use an onstage delay for my vocals which goes inline with the
mic and before the pa, I have it set up so I unplug whatever mic is at
the venue, insert my own XLR-XLR between the mic and my Delay box, then
plug the cable that was originally in the mic into the xlr output. Both
the input and output on the box I added with a 1:10 ratio on the input
and a 1:1 (600 ohm) on the output. I want to do the same thing but
build it into a guitar pedal like a wahwha so I can link the sweep
pedal to the speed control of an analog delay guitar pedal's guts.

I guess what I need to know is if I want to plug balanced mic signals
into guitar pedals then out again to the desk also balanced which is
the correct ratio/impedance transformer to use for input, and which for
output?

Any help appreciated,

-James

splitlips wrote:

I guess what I need to know is if I want to plug balanced mic signals
into guitar pedals then out again to the desk also balanced which is
the correct ratio/impedance transformer to use for input, and which for
output?

Little Labs actually builds a box specifically for the application.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:
splitlips wrote:
I guess what I need to know is if I want to plug balanced mic signals
into guitar pedals then out again to the desk also balanced which is
the correct ratio/impedance transformer to use for input, and which for
output?

Little Labs actually builds a box specifically for the application.
--scott


OTOH, I'd be wary of using a guitar effect box to run my voice through.
It probably isn't very high fidelity. OTOH--again--if you're just
using it occasionally for effect (and as long as the bypass is a
straight-through connection), it could be interesting.

Just my $.02...it's your voice and your performance; but there are ways
to get the effect you're looking for without compromising signal quality.

If it were me, I think I'd split the mic signal, send one side to the
board--dry--and the other side through the delay to another channel.
Use a MIDI controller with footpedal options (I'm sure they exist).

jak

jakdedert wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
splitlips wrote:
I guess what I need to know is if I want to plug balanced mic signals
into guitar pedals then out again to the desk also balanced which is
the correct ratio/impedance transformer to use for input, and which for
output?

Little Labs actually builds a box specifically for the application.

OTOH, I'd be wary of using a guitar effect box to run my voice through.
It probably isn't very high fidelity. OTOH--again--if you're just
using it occasionally for effect (and as long as the bypass is a
straight-through connection), it could be interesting.

That's usually the point, though.

If it were me, I think I'd split the mic signal, send one side to the
board--dry--and the other side through the delay to another channel.
Use a MIDI controller with footpedal options (I'm sure they exist).

It is _really_ nice to have consoles with inserts that can be defeated
with a button on the channel strip. That way you can put an effects
device in the insert, and easily switch it in and out during the performance
for when you need the effect on just a word, line, or verse.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:
jakdedert wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
splitlips wrote:
I guess what I need to know is if I want to plug balanced mic signals
into guitar pedals then out again to the desk also balanced which is
the correct ratio/impedance transformer to use for input, and which for
output?
Little Labs actually builds a box specifically for the application.

OTOH, I'd be wary of using a guitar effect box to run my voice through.
It probably isn't very high fidelity. OTOH--again--if you're just
using it occasionally for effect (and as long as the bypass is a
straight-through connection), it could be interesting.

That's usually the point, though.

If it were me, I think I'd split the mic signal, send one side to the
board--dry--and the other side through the delay to another channel.
Use a MIDI controller with footpedal options (I'm sure they exist).

It is _really_ nice to have consoles with inserts that can be defeated
with a button on the channel strip. That way you can put an effects
device in the insert, and easily switch it in and out during the performance
for when you need the effect on just a word, line, or verse.

Yeah, but he's apparently doing it onstage during his performance.

jak

--scott

Thanks for the replys,

Yeah I'm using it on stage and currently am using a dreadful unit
roughly modified (80's analog echo box with in/out xformers hacked in)
for the job which bolts to the mic stand. It's cumbersome and I want to
build the whole thing (Splitter, 2ch mixer, output transformer) into a
wah pedal so I can use the pedal to sweep the speed control and the wah
footswitch to bypass the whole thing.

-James