wrote:



First things first. My fundamental objection to your tweaks: Exactly
the same as my objection to ABX. I know of no validation of either by a
controlled experiment. And controlled experiment support is the only
basis on which I'll grant consent to a procedure, drug, treatment.


You wouldn't have needed any "validation" to the "tweak" if it had
worked for you Ludowic, or perhaps if it had worked in your environment.
The way hifi sound becomes so natural and relaxed just takes all the
need for validation and testing out, leaves just intimate enjoyment of
music behind. You just don't need to ask "is this true" anymore...

But my "validation" came in the form of a friend visiting and commenting
on the "remarkable" sound of the system just yesterday, I quote "was
this thing always this good?". He of course had no idea whatsoever about
any "tweak". And while the thing itself is actually hidden underneath
the preamp so nothing is visible, I am not going to disclose anything to
anybody again what with the first attempt resulting with the horses ass
jokes and all. I know selfish, yes, but also wise.


He performed an uncontrolled experiment that confirmed that most people
survive any epidemic.

Yes with things like medicine, demanding strict scientific (at times
even in that field risking things might be called for though) validation
is a must, ok. But this is just audio; music; relaxation, so relax.

Results
are valid for Fella and De Wal and long may they enjoy them.


Well thank you. That's an enlightened POW and I wouldn't have expected
anything less from you.

There are dumberthendumborgs around ridiculing me with the same type of
words I *myself* used on SHP in my time, how dumb is that? Been there,
done that, times are'a changin, etc...


In fact Fella and De Wal could do it at
home

The thing is ... (here's me being honest again, watch the dumborg do the
malfunctioning robot breakdance and clank and clink and jangle with
_*insignificant*_ insults now) : I am very much so *afraid* of losing
that "magic" for the lack of a better word. I just had to hide the thing
underneath the preamp before I can find a way to explain it to the wife,
and it's "effect" somewhat lessened. But going on some blinding
testing rampage with it is too much of a risk. I really do not want to
risk losing the whatever magic it is that made my system sound like
something I have *never* experienced before. And beleive me I have
listened to a bunch of extremely high end pricey systems in my time.
None of them had the same relaxed and natural and "justified" sounds as
compared to what I am listening to in the privacy of my home these days.
I accept that some of the tension, the feeling, the romance in some of
the music is also stripped away with this wierd tweak, but the insight
and clarity it brings surpasses it all.

Shame it didn't work out for you though.


And then please let's get back towards
exchange of "subjective" views about equipment, recordings etc.

When was this place ever a forum for that with arnii and his zombie
dumborgs clanking and screeching around?

Fella wrote:

You wouldn't have needed any "validation" to the "tweak" if it had
worked for you Ludowic, or perhaps if it had worked in your environment.
The way hifi sound becomes so natural and relaxed just takes all the
need for validation and testing out, leaves just intimate enjoyment of
music behind. You just don't need to ask "is this true" anymore...

If you have any idea of the tweaking I do, then imagine my system,
which is almost entirely tweaked using these alternative audio
concepts. The thing has completely been transformed by my tweaks. And
yet I have to endure foolish comments from people completely ignorant
of all of this (like Elimra and co.), who are back at the kindergarten
stage, telling me I didn't hear what I and others I know know I heard,
and I gotta do "DBT's" and crap, in order to be sure that my entire
system's sound has been totally night and day transformed. And people
wonder why I have so little patience with them!

But my "validation" came in the form of a friend visiting and commenting
on the "remarkable" sound of the system just yesterday, I quote "was
this thing always this good?".

My validation came in the form of my wife's kids, who had heard and
played the stereo that I tweaked, for many years. They came over once,
turned it on and played some cd's. No one told them I had changed
anything, and they are not audiophiles by any stretch. And yet they all
were astounded by the quality of sound coming out of the system they
thought they knew well.

Of course, that quality of sound was always already there in the room
when they were listening to it. Just that they could not perceive that
degree of quality, because of adverse effects they had no control of.

He of course had no idea whatsoever about
any "tweak". And while the thing itself is actually hidden underneath
the preamp so nothing is visible,

You realize of course, you are "tweaking" the furniture here, not the
preamp. Furniture works too, but I find best results are to be had on
the equipment itself. If you move the device to the top of the preamp,
near any inputs or outputs, you'll probably find an improvement in the
quality.


I am not going to disclose anything to
anybody again what with the first attempt resulting with the horses ass
jokes and all. I know selfish, yes, but also wise.


Not so wise, by me. Consider the fact that if I gave a rat's ass about
ignorant fools and their ignorant jokes, calling me a horse's ass or
whatever, you'd have never heard about any such tweaks.

It was true when you were 4 years old, it's still true now: so long as
you believe in yourself, no one can hurt you.

("Run, Free Willy! Run!....")


He performed an uncontrolled experiment that confirmed that most people
survive any epidemic.

Too bad the ebola virus hadn't been around yet. That would have been
fun to watch him swallow a batch of "ebola", and swell up like a
blowfish.

Yes with things like medicine, demanding strict scientific (at times
even in that field risking things might be called for though) validation
is a must, ok. But this is just audio; music; relaxation, so relax.

Moreoever, blind tests for audio are not in keeping with the design
parameters of an audio system, which is meant to listen under natural,
relaxed, sighted conditions, not artificial blind, stressful
conditions.

The thing is ... (here's me being honest again, watch the dumborg do the
malfunctioning robot breakdance and clank and clink and jangle with
_*insignificant*_ insults now) : I am very much so *afraid* of losing
that "magic" for the lack of a better word. I just had to hide the thing
underneath the preamp before I can find a way to explain it to the wife,
and it's "effect" somewhat lessened. But going on some blinding
testing rampage with it is too much of a risk. I really do not want to
risk losing the whatever magic it is that made my system sound like
something I have *never* experienced before.

Then don't move the device under the preamp at all. I can guarantee you
that moving it will change the sound, and I can NOT guarantee you that
replacing it back in the same spot will return the sound to its -exact-
state. Simply removing the tape and taping the same piece back makes it
slightly worse, simply because the tape doesn't adhere perfectly flat
in one corner.

However, that doesn't stop you from adding and trying other things, if
you have the time or inclination. For example, the l-shape printout is
something that is easily removable after you attach it to something,
and removing it will return your original sound.

nd beleive me I have
listened to a bunch of extremely high end pricey systems in my time.
None of them had the same relaxed and natural and "justified" sounds as
compared to what I am listening to in the privacy of my home these days.
I accept that some of the tension, the feeling, the romance in some of
the music is also stripped away with this wierd tweak, but the insight
and clarity it brings surpasses it all.

When you consider the fact that you can not acheive quite the same
results with ANY audio product at ANY cost, then you realize how
important that alternative audio concepts are, and how sad it is, that
so many people are so afraid of change and anything new, that they
fight these ideas like it was the biggest threat to them in their
lives.

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Fella wrote:

You wouldn't have needed any "validation" to the "tweak" if it had
worked for you Ludowic, or perhaps if it had worked in your environment.
The way hifi sound becomes so natural and relaxed just takes all the
need for validation and testing out, leaves just intimate enjoyment of
music behind. You just don't need to ask "is this true" anymore...

If you have any idea of the tweaking I do, then imagine my system,
which is almost entirely tweaked using these alternative audio
concepts. The thing has completely been transformed by my tweaks. And
yet I have to endure foolish comments from people completely ignorant
of all of this (like Elimra and co.), who are back at the kindergarten
stage, telling me I didn't hear what I and others I know know I heard,
and I gotta do "DBT's" and crap, in order to be sure that my entire
system's sound has been totally night and day transformed. And people
wonder why I have so little patience with them!

That is not the issue here, Dr. Richard Graham. In my opinion,
1. You are a shill for PWB Electronics.
2. You lack ethics.

Robert Morein said:

That is not the issue here, Dr. Richard Graham. In my opinion,
1. You are a shill for PWB Electronics.
2. You lack ethics.

On the plus side, Shovels has, by his own actions, demonstrated a plan of
action that might benefit Arnii Krooger -- i.e., getting treatment for
mental illness.






--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.