Scott Dorsey wrote:
Walt wrote:

I'm probably talking about the original X model. I try to dig up an
actual example.

The XX is definitely less prone to breaking than the original X model. But
they can still break.

So I rooted around the junk bin and came up with examples - all Neutrik
X model. That's the connector that make me swear off Neutrik 15 years
ago or so. If they've improved their product in that time, good for them.

//Walt

"Walt" wrote in message
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Walt wrote:

I'm probably talking about the original X model. I try to dig up an
actual example.

The XX is definitely less prone to breaking than the original X model.
But
they can still break.

So I rooted around the junk bin and came up with examples - all Neutrik X
model. That's the connector that make me swear off Neutrik 15 years ago
or so. If they've improved their product in that time, good for them.

//Walt

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny screw
that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me swore off
switchcraft forever
george

George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny screw
that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me swore off
switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?

//Walt

Walt wrote:
George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny screw
that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me swore off
switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?

The narrow screwdriver blade on the Leatherman Wave fits perfectly.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Walt wrote:
George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny
screw
that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me swore off
switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?

The narrow screwdriver blade on the Leatherman Wave fits perfectly.
--scott

I don't need a screwdriver "at all" to CHECK the n.
george

"Walt" wrote in message
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George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny
screw that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me
swore off switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?


Find yourself without one on a gig in bimbuk idaho needing to do feild
service and you will understand
everything is easy when you have the right tools, with neutricks all I need
are my fingers, never leave home without them.
george

George Gleason wrote:
"Walt" wrote
George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny
screw that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me
swore off switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?

Find yourself without one on a gig in bimbuk idaho needing to do feild
service and you will understand
everything is easy when you have the right tools, with neutricks all I need
are my fingers, never leave home without them.

You can solder with just your fingers? I'm impressed.

//Walt

"Walt" wrote in message
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George Gleason wrote:
"Walt" wrote
George Gleason wrote:

I have had tons of problems with worn or oversized holes in the A3f
that and that crappy rubber boot pulls free, the reverse thread tiny
screw that needs a special screwdriver to access/feild repair has me
swore off switchcraft forever

You consider a little green screwdriver a "special" tool? WTF?

Find yourself without one on a gig in bimbuk idaho needing to do feild
service and you will understand
everything is easy when you have the right tools, with neutricks all I
need are my fingers, never leave home without them.

You can solder with just your fingers? I'm impressed.

would you say the majority of cable fails involve a solder joint?

i guess this is getting quite pointless though
my point is I find it extreamly unlikely you have "thousands " of failed
neutrik xlrs, to do so you must own 10's of millions of them
I do own "thousnads of neutrik connectors and find them by far the most
reliable easiest to instal and service xlr connector on the market
I thought I'd died and gone to heaven ,discoverd sliced bread when I used
my first neutrik and could finally get away from the IMO much more poorly
designed and vastly more unreliable A3f/m connectors

if you do have thousands of failed neutriks on your hands I will gladly pay
the shipping to take them as neutrik will replace them free of charge
george

George Gleason wrote:
"Walt" wrote
George Gleason wrote:
"Walt" wrote
George Gleason wrote:

Find yourself without one on a gig in bimbuk idaho needing to do feild
service and you will understand
everything is easy when you have the right tools, with neutricks all I
need are my fingers, never leave home without them.

You can solder with just your fingers? I'm impressed.

would you say the majority of cable fails involve a solder joint?

I'd say that the majority of cable repairs involve soldering, regardless
of the failure mode.

i guess this is getting quite pointless though
my point is I find it extreamly unlikely you have "thousands " of failed
neutrik xlrs,

I didn't say I *have* thousands of them, I said that I've *seen*
hundreds, perhaps thousands, of failed neutrik XLR connectors. The true
number is probably somewhere betwen 200 and 500, but I can't say I've
kept an explicit count.

Every single mic cable I've ever owned that had neutrik XLRs on the ends
has failed - somebody steps on the conector, the plastic screw-on
strain relief cracks, and the connector falls apart. I stopped using
them after a couple of dozen, so I've probably only owned about 30
connectors that broke.

Patch cables, and snake ends are a different story, they don't tend to
get stepped on as much.

if you do have thousands of failed neutriks on your hands I will gladly pay
the shipping to take them as neutrik will replace them free of charge

Most of them long since thrown away.

//Walt

George Gleason wrote:

I do own "thousnads of neutrik connectors and find them by far the most
reliable easiest to instal and service xlr connector on the market
I thought I'd died and gone to heaven ,discoverd sliced bread when I used
my first neutrik and could finally get away from the IMO much more poorly
designed and vastly more unreliable A3f/m connectors

I don't understand this. What's poorly designed and unreliable about a
Switchcraft A3M/F connector? There's only one free part, and that's the
insert, and it's some soft of glass filled plastic that's really hard
to melt. Everything else else stays together. The various Neutrik
designes I've had in my hands have a strain relief (plastic), a collet
that holds the cable (plastic), an insert (plastic) and the metal
shell. And the insert on at least some models is easy to melt and the
pins get out of alignment. I've done it. And then there's that o-ring
that makes the females hard to plug together with Switchdraft males
unless you remove it, and then they feel a little loose.

Gimme Switchcraft (at least the ones that I have in my stock). Like
computers, though, I'm sure there have been a few changes for the worst
in an attempt to give the buyer the latest cool features, whatever they
might be on an XLR connector.