"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Neither B&O nor Bose offer good value for money.

**That would be YOUR opinion. For many of those who purchase B&O, it
offers
a sense of style not provided by other products and, hence, represents
good
value. Bose, OTOH, represents extremely poor value for money, since other
products can offer more for less. I suggest to you, however, that, due to
the prescence of wasteful output autoformers, that McIntosh amplifiers
represent spectacularly bad value for money.


You are triventriliquating again.

(That means you are talking out both sides of your mouth and your ass
all at the same time.)

**Prove it.


Mcintosh also has unique styling and many of its customers feel it is
the best looking line of audio equipment in the world.

**Yep. That much is true. Personally, I reckon they look incredibly dated
and clunky. However, style is a personal issue. Trouble is, you pay SO MUCH
for that style. You sure don't get any sonic gains.

Whilst I
understand the technical arguments against the autoformers as well as
anyone, they do not harm the performance of McIntosh power amplifiers
which measure very well.

**Yes, they do harm the performance of the amplifiers.

They don't sound all that superior but many
solid state and some tube amps sound even worse.

**SUre. I agree that there are even more incompetently designed producs,
than McIntosh. Not many, mind you.


I feel the McIntosh autoformers combined with tube driven (as with
Moscode) MOSFET outputs could be a very good thing.

**Why? Please provide your technical reasons to support this assertion.

I am not impressed
at all or respectful of McIntosh's reisue tube equipment, for several
reasons. I do think they should stick with solid state if they don't
believe in the genuine merit of tubes, and am certain they do not.

Since Mcintosh amplifiers are not the most expensive brand to be had
(but are certainly somewhat overpriced) one can not take excessive
umbrage at their poor value for money.

**Sure one can. If McIntosh dumped the usage of autoformers, they could
reduce their costs (and, hopefully, retail prices) significantly.


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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au