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Ok, I decided to try to learn how to setup my machines for different
tapes. I'm not talking about physically adjusting heads or more specialized "aligning" but ONLY the very basics of setting my recorders up for different tapes. Obviously I'd need an MRL tape for the type of deck I'm using but then I would need to learn how to do this process. Can someone point me to a site where I can learn how to do the very BASIC procedure ? I'll leave all that other stuff for a tech but for right now I need to learn to setup my recorder for any type of tape (within limits that is) and do it for not a lot of money in tools. I'm talking bias, levels, eq and such .. Thank you. |
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"DL" wrote in message
ups.com... Ok, I decided to try to learn how to setup my machines for different tapes. I'm not talking about physically adjusting heads or more specialized "aligning" but ONLY the very basics of setting my recorders up for different tapes. Obviously I'd need an MRL tape for the type of deck I'm using but then I would need to learn how to do this process. Can someone point me to a site where I can learn how to do the very BASIC procedure ? I'll leave all that other stuff for a tech but for right now I need to learn to setup my recorder for any type of tape (within limits that is) and do it for not a lot of money in tools. I'm talking bias, levels, eq and such .. Thank you. First thing, get yourself a service manual for the machine. From TASCAM, from e-bay, wherever, but get one. You need it to tell you, among other things, where the adjustments are, how much overbias is required, etc. Peace, Pul |
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![]() Paul Stamler wrote: First thing, get yourself a service manual for the machine. From TASCAM, from e-bay, wherever, but get one. You need it to tell you, among other things, where the adjustments are, how much overbias is required, etc. Check. I have the original service manuals for all my TASCAM recorders. |
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"DL" wrote in message
oups.com... Paul Stamler wrote: First thing, get yourself a service manual for the machine. From TASCAM, from e-bay, wherever, but get one. You need it to tell you, among other things, where the adjustments are, how much overbias is required, etc. Check. I have the original service manuals for all my TASCAM recorders. Okay; instructions for alignment should be in there. You need to borrow an oscilloscope someplace to do the head azimuth adjustments (sorry, they're necessary) and a good ANALOG audio voltmeter. (There are some digital ones out there that will do the job, but they cost more than your recorder is worth; a basic DVM won't do it.) You already know about the alignment tape. Other than that, you'll need an audio oscillator or a DAW that can generate audio tones, some Q-tips and alcohol. Maybe a tape head demagnetizer. Peace, Paul |
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DL wrote:
Ok, I decided to try to learn how to setup my machines for different tapes. I'm not talking about physically adjusting heads or more specialized "aligning" but ONLY the very basics of setting my recorders up for different tapes. It's the same thing. When you change tape types, you need to reset the head azimuth too. Tapes of different stiffness and slightly different width sit on the head differently. When you move from one tape to another you need to do the physical alignment. Also the physical alignment drifts. It's a good idea to check it weekly for a machine that's in regular studio use. Obviously I'd need an MRL tape for the type of deck I'm using but then I would need to learn how to do this process. Can someone point me to a site where I can learn how to do the very BASIC procedure ? It's described in the FAQ here, but the service manual for your recorder also probably has a good description of it. You may find it easier to get a tech to come over and show you. You will need a cheap oscilloscope and signal generator (or a CD with tones on it), and the MRL tape. If the metering on your machine is less than accurate (which is typical for Tascam) you may also want an outboard VU meter, although you can probably live without it. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Great advice. Thank you.
~Daniel |
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hank alrich wrote:
mike wrote: The 1980's machines need 1 mil thick tape. 456 is the recommended tape from Tascam. Plus they only recommend Quantegy Tape. I thought 456 was 1.5 mil and 457 was was the 1 mil tape. I'd have to go dig out a reel to check. You are right. -- ha -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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JP Morris wrote:
William Sommerwerck wrote: Some heads are designed to put up with the extra wear caused by 1.5mil tape. Where do you come up with these theories? He didn't make it up.. I've heard that one too. I don't know where it came from originally. People battling to get consumer decks, example A77, to behave with standard tape, example PER525, that needs more tape tension than the deck can provide for proper head contact. Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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William Sommerwerck wrote:
Generally, the magnetic coating on 1mil tape is the same thickness as that on 1.5mil tape. In any case, what does the thickness have to do with head wear? I think it's supposed to be something to do with how closely the tape wraps around the head. That will be determined by the stiffness of the tape, which in turn will depend on the thickness of the plastic. So the logic would be that, as thinner tape "clings" better to the head (which has been the common belief for 50 years), there will be increased friction, and therefore greater head wear? It's plausible, I guess. (Someone call Jamie and Adam!) Pro tapes tend to be less concerned with head wear than with contact. Also a more rigid tape touching less of the head will have greater contact force pr. square meter and thus more abrasion even if having the same coating. Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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RD Jones wrote:
Paul Stamler wrote: You are correct. As for recommending Quantegy tape...Quantegy tape is the new name for Ampex tape. It's all you can buy new. If you stick with Quantegy as opposed to Ampex, that means it's new enough to have a (hopefully) new formula so it won't develop sticky-shed. I'm in the process of doing some transfers now... Are Ampex the only tapes that go "sticky" ? No. It is more like BASF is only one. I've never encountered anything else that has but thought I'd ask. Agfa 368 will go sticky shed, but slower than the tape the pro's lost their recordings of what was worth to record on, even Fuji's excellent clone of the Agfa tape will go sticky. The tapes to worry about are generally those with brown oxide and a black rear coating. I have assumed that my BASF's would not go sticky - their smell is drastically differnt- perhaps it is getting to be time to verify. rd Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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Some heads are designed to put up with
the extra wear caused by 1.5mil tape. Where do you come up with these theories? He didn't make it up.. I've heard that one too. I don't know where it came from originally. People battling to get consumer decks, example A77, to behave with standard tape, example PER525, that needs more tape tension than the deck can provide for proper head contact. Thanks for the clarification. It seems to make sense. Note, however, that the original remark stated the greater wear was _caused_ by 1.5mil tape. It was _not_ -- it was the greater force produced by the greater tape tension needed. |
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William Sommerwerck wrote:
Some heads are designed to put up with the extra wear caused by 1.5mil tape. Where do you come up with these theories? He didn't make it up.. I've heard that one too. I don't know where it came from originally. People battling to get consumer decks, example A77, to behave with standard tape, example PER525, that needs more tape tension than the deck can provide for proper head contact. Thanks for the clarification. It seems to make sense. Note, however, that the original remark stated the greater wear was _caused_ by 1.5mil tape. It was _not_ -- it was the greater force produced by the greater tape tension needed. Yes, it came across as if it was the thickness of the backing that was the wear factor. I just wish I had used Fuji instead of Ampex, I was talked away from it by people claiming it had worse copy-effecst than the Ampex. But also way better treble and it was way less degraded when I made the Great Transcription of what seemed the mosts vital. Giving advice is awfully difficult, there is always the unexpected .... Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
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