"ScottW" wrote in message
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: Ruud Broens wrote:
: "ScottW" wrote in message
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: :
: : "Don Pearce" wrote in message
: : ...
: : On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:29:56 GMT, wrote:
: :
: : As for HD - it is going to be worse. No broadcaster is going to spend
: : the kind of bandwidth necessary for high quality transmission of HD.
: : There may be areas of screen with nice fine detail, but the rest will
: : be a disgusting mess of MPEG artifacts - much worse than today on
: : standard definition. Forget what you have seen so far on the demos -
: : that doesn't reflect future reality.
: :
: : d
: : I hate to disagree with you, but the first time I saw an HD picture it
was
: : on a rear projection TV that was tuned to a channel broadcasting an HD
: : picture, not a demo. I was immediately aware of the improved quality of
: : the
: : picture and more impressed because of the fact that it was rear
: : projection.
: :
: : One of my friends moved recently and has a TV that he bought 3 years ago
: : that was HD capable but he'd enver had it hooked up to a HD signal. Now
: : that he has, he tells me he almost hates to go out because of the
: : improvement. It's like watching everything for the first time.
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : Don't worry, you aren't disagreeing with me. HD is brilliant - it is
: : the future of HD that is going to be full of disappointment as more
: : and more channels want to get in on the act.
: :
: : Not a problem.... the phone companies are gonna leapfrog the cable
: : companies with FttP (fiber to the premise) and bring megabandwidth to the
: : problem.
: :
: : Hows a 20 fold increase in bandwidth over cable sound?
: :
: : http://www22.verizon.com/about/commu...echnology.html
: :
: : Rollouts are in progress in virtually every major metro area in the
country.
: :
: : ScottW
: :
: actually, it says:
: "
: a.. Fiber technology provides nearly unlimited bandwidth,
: a.. as much as 20 times faster than today's fastest
: a.. high-speed data connections."
:
: which is pretty nondescriptive.
: around here, that'd be 400 Mbs, not bad, but rather underutilizing
: fiber capacity.
:
: Gross underestimation of cable bandwidth noted. They don't like
: publicize but you seem to be assuming that all of cables BW is used for
: internet... I'm guessing its only a fraction.

repeated reading error noted. it says "high speed data connections", that
has nothing to do with the cable bandwidth. *that* would be, depending
on length and quality, up to several Gbs for cable. you're confusing total
capacity with the fraction that is currently reserved for _data connections_.
:
: For example... if 1080i HD requires 20 to 30 Mbs (I don't know the
: number so I've no reason to doubt you).... then cable is bringing about
: 400 Mbs into my home for HD alone today... I have no idea what the
: total BW cable offers but if your number is correct... it has to be
: around 2gig or so.

that is what is broadcasted, not a data connection over cable.
:
:
: 4 Mbs satellite up/downstreams i've seen are pretty
: good for normal quality tv channels, HD done the right way is some
: 20 to 30 Mbs, so no way you can have many HD channels on a 400 Mbs
: capacity link
:
: some problems with ftth rollout:
:
: world fiber production capacity being where it is, just to facilitate the US
: alone would take decades of production
:
: I am not aware of any fiber shortage... lets see a reference. Last I
: looked.. Dow was having a problem keep fiber prices where they wanted
: them.

sorry, what *you*'re not aware of doesn't set any standard. as Ferstler would
say: trust me, i know of what i speak :-)
Rudy

:
:
: the associated cost is not equipment, nor fiber cost, it's the digging that
: is extremely costly - it'll have to be paid for in some way to make ftth
viable
:
: Sure.. many cable companies went bankrupt after deployment... they
: couldn't recover the cost of network rollout. Every satellite phone
: offering did the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the phone
: companies don't suffer in this project. But they have no choice. The
: silly little twisted pair is going to leave them with no product anyone
: wants and no customers. Plus they don't have to share fiber like
: copper networks. Its they only way they can fight back against the
: cable companies. If they don't.. they're doomed.
:
: ScottW