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Arny Krueger wrote:

Brat's a tubie, but now he wants us to think that hes' a
conoisseur of SS amps with his crack about my USA 400.


It is a perplexing choice of amplifier IMHO !


Why?

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


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Arny Krueger wrote:

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Arny Krueger wrote:

Brat's a tubie, but now he wants us to think that hes' a
conoisseur of SS amps with his crack about my USA 400.


It is a perplexing choice of amplifier IMHO !


Why?


I have in the past rated that style of QSC design as being somewhat
'agricultural' ! I could elaborate at considerable length. You might not
like it though.

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


Take one home and try it there as well then.

Graham


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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Brat's a tubie, but now he wants us to think that hes' a
conoisseur of SS amps with his crack about my USA 400.


It is a perplexing choice of amplifier IMHO !


Why?


I have in the past rated that style of QSC design as being somewhat
'agricultural' ! I could elaborate at considerable length. You might not
like it though.


Trouble is, I know how that design does in straight wire bypass tests.

Indeed, how that circuit sounds in a straight wire bypass test has been
posted for all to hear:

http://www.pcabx.com/product/usa-850/index.htm

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


Take one home and try it there as well then.


What sounds better than an amp that is indistinguishable from a straight
wire?




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Default Horns are bad


Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

Arny Krueger wrote:

Brat's a tubie, but now he wants us to think that hes' a
conoisseur of SS amps with his crack about my USA 400.

It is a perplexing choice of amplifier IMHO !

Why?


I have in the past rated that style of QSC design as being somewhat
'agricultural' ! I could elaborate at considerable length. You might not
like it though.


Trouble is, I know how that design does in straight wire bypass tests.


And I know how 'badly' it measures ( for an SS amp ! ). Crossover in
particular is truly horrid.

Not to mention a bag of other issues I have with that style of QSC
architecture.


Indeed, how that circuit sounds in a straight wire bypass test has been
posted for all to hear:

http://www.pcabx.com/product/usa-850/index.htm

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


Take one home and try it there as well then.


What sounds better than an amp that is indistinguishable from a straight
wire?


I had a feeling you might say that.

I'm unconvinced of the results of your tests. I've heard those QSCs and one
reason I call them agricultural is 'cos they actually sound it. Read into that
whatever you like about the ear's ability to discern non-linearities !

Graham


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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

Arny Krueger wrote:

Brat's a tubie, but now he wants us to think that hes' a
conoisseur of SS amps with his crack about my USA 400.

It is a perplexing choice of amplifier IMHO !

Why?

I have in the past rated that style of QSC design as being somewhat
'agricultural' ! I could elaborate at considerable length. You might
not
like it though.


Trouble is, I know how that design does in straight wire bypass tests.


And I know how 'badly' it measures ( for an SS amp ! ). Crossover in
particular is truly horrid.


You obviously measured a different amp than I did.

Not to mention a bag of other issues I have with that style of QSC
architecture.


I'm interested.

Indeed, how that circuit sounds in a straight wire bypass test has been
posted for all to hear:


http://www.pcabx.com/product/usa-850/index.htm


Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


Take one home and try it there as well then.


What sounds better than an amp that is indistinguishable from a straight
wire?


I had a feeling you might say that.


Fact is, the amp passes tough blind listening tests.

I'm unconvinced of the results of your tests. I've heard those QSCs and
one
reason I call them agricultural is 'cos they actually sound it. Read into
that
whatever you like about the ear's ability to discern non-linearities !


Listen for yourself.




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Indeed, how that circuit sounds in a straight wire bypass test has been
posted for all to hear:

http://www.pcabx.com/product/usa-850/index.htm

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.


Take one home and try it there as well then.


What sounds better than an amp that is indistinguishable from a straight
wire?


Might as well just save some money and just buy the wire!~



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choice of amplifier IMHO !

Why?

Why not check out one of those Behringer A500s ?


I'm probably going to buy some A500s for church.



yes, the church choir certainly deserves them.



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