Hi all,

we have a new product being launched at Frankurt Music Messe this
year.

Because its sonic qualities are its raison d'etre we want to demo it.

Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.

Can't say I'm keen on Beyer DT100s though - never liked the sound they
make.

Graham

"Poopie Bear Faced LIAR "

we have a new product being launched at Frankurt Music Messe this
year.



** There is no " we ".

Graham Stevenson is an unemployed and unemployable mental retard.




......... Phil

Pooh Bear wrote:
Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.

Is Ultrasone making any headway over there? Why not get in touch with
their rep, tell him what you're showing (best as you can if you don't
want to spill all the beans) and ask if they'll lend you a few sets of
whatever of their headphones they'd recommend for your demo. They all
sound pretty good, they're rugged enough to stand up to a trade show,
and I'm sure that Ultrasone would be happy to have one more reason for
attendees to pick up their phones and give a listen, no matter what's
going into them.

Lots of companies who make equipment that would support (or be
supported by) another product, as long as it's not a competitor, lend
their gear just to get it displayed for free.

Mike Rivers schrieb:
Pooh Bear wrote:

Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.


Is Ultrasone making any headway over there? Why not get in touch with
their rep, tell him what you're showing (best as you can if you don't
want to spill all the beans) and ask if they'll lend you a few sets of
whatever of their headphones they'd recommend for your demo. They all
sound pretty good, they're rugged enough to stand up to a trade show,
and I'm sure that Ultrasone would be happy to have one more reason for
attendees to pick up their phones and give a listen, no matter what's
going into them.

Lots of companies who make equipment that would support (or be
supported by) another product, as long as it's not a competitor, lend
their gear just to get it displayed for free.


I second Mike's recommendation, the Ultrasone is top notch.
Try to get a Proline 750

http://www.ultrasone.com/htdocs/08_f...line_index.php

br
GS

I don't know whether Ultrasone headphones are any good, but how nice it is
to see that the company guarantees long-term availability of spare parts.

Phil Allison wrote:

** There is no " we ".

Graham Stevenson is an unemployed and unemployable mental retard.

New year, same ol' Phil. (..)

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 11:15:55 +0000, Pooh Bear
wrote:

Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.

I think it would be good to have two or three commonly-in-use
models of headphones available, so that listeners can pick the phones
they're most familiar with and they "know" what they're listening
through. The models I've widely used come to mind, Sony MDR-7506's and
AKG 240's (probably less appropriate open-backed, but I like the sound
better when there's little background noise).
Perhaps just have one model such as the Sonys sitting out for
General Use And Abuse, and if someone shows 'serious interest' in the
product, offer to bring out some other model phones.


Can't say I'm keen on Beyer DT100s though - never liked the sound they
make.

Graham

On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 11:15:55 +0000, Pooh Bear
wrote:

Hi all,

we have a new product being launched at Frankurt Music Messe this
year.

Because its sonic qualities are its raison d'etre we want to demo it.

Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.

Can't say I'm keen on Beyer DT100s though - never liked the sound they
make.

Graham


I wonder if Ultrasone do a special deal for exhibitions? Their headphones
were on almost every stand when I visited the AES show in San Fransisco.
It would make sense for headphone manufacturers to do this because it gets
their products onto more stands than just their own. It might also be
worth talking to Senneheiser. The HD25's might be worth investigating for
something not too expensive although they make more expensive closed back
headphones. Talk to John Willet at Sennheiser in the UK - email me if you
need his contact details.

I also like the Beyer DT250's - they're better sounding than DT100's
although they don't sound as hifi as the Ultrasones or Sennheisers.

Cheers

James.

"James Perrett" wrote:

I also like the Beyer DT250's - they're better sounding than DT100's

Shush! Remember the discussions of neutral sounding mics? We
repeatedly named a commonly overlooked contender, and now the going rate
on eBay is up more than 50%. Let's not do that to these.



although they don't sound as hifi as the Ultrasones or Sennheisers.

Right. Thank God.

--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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Pooh Bear wrote:
Hi all,

we have a new product being launched at Frankurt Music Messe this
year.

Because its sonic qualities are its raison d'etre we want to demo it.

Any recommendations regarding a suitably durable and decent quality
sets of cans suitable for the task would be very welcome. I'm thinking
open back types may be unsuitable on account to the high level of
ambient noise too.

Can't say I'm keen on Beyer DT100s though - never liked the sound they
make.

Graham

When I was working for Neumann, I used the HD265 sealed 'phones from
sister company Sennheiser. They worked well at exhibits because they
were A) sealed, B) sounded decent and C) had a slightly exaggerated
bottom. This last point is important because when wearing sealed
phones, the background LF noise cuts through a bit.

Later, when Sennheiser introduced the HD280 phones, I offered them to
quite a few exhibitors for the 2001 AES and loaned out 60 odd pairs.
Most ended up being purchased by these borrowers because they liked the
isolation, and the ease of driving those 'phones. To me, they were a
touch light on the bottom (see point C above) but had a relatively
neutral sound and worked well in the show environment.

This year for the NAMM show, I'm borrowing the Beyer DT770 Pro phones
for our exhibit at Lectrosonics. We listened to these and the 250s, and
picked the 770s. Be aware that there are two different versions, in 80
ohms and 250 ohms. Had I known this, I would have asked for the 80 ohm
version (I have the higher-impedance version). It's no problem with the
Furman headphone amp we'll be using, but some gear doesn't have the
power to drive 250-ohm phones to a loud enough level for trade show
listening.

I haven't personally heard the Ultrasones but seems that a lot of
people like them.

Karl Winkler
http://www.karlwinkler.com
http://www.lectrosonics.com