Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to. In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to. In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

I believe that is why comp.os.linux.advocacy was created
in the first place. The technical and help Unix groups
were getting overrun with Linux zealots proselytizing
their new found religion and overloading the serious
groups their trollery.

I made the mistake of cross-posting a follow-up to
comp.os.linux.advocacy and my mailbox got bombarded with
email from some of these linux fanatics. Most of it was
long winded, drawn out messages letting me know what an
idiot I am for using Windows and not being able to install
Linux. Others went into long paragraphs attempting to
explain why Microsoft is evil and will soon be demanding
my first born (well not that bad, but you get the idea).

At first I thought this was humorous, but the more I think
about it the closer I come to the conclusion that a lot of
these Linux cultists actually might be mentally unstable.

I've lurked a little over in comp.os.linux.advocacy for a
day or two just for a laugh, but I will never knowingly
post there again. Too many usenet kooks over there for my
tastes.
SO

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:48:14 -0500, Steve O wrote:


Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to. In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

I believe that is why comp.os.linux.advocacy was created
in the first place. The technical and help Unix groups
were getting overrun with Linux zealots proselytizing
their new found religion and overloading the serious
groups their trollery.

I made the mistake of cross-posting a follow-up to
comp.os.linux.advocacy and my mailbox got bombarded with
email from some of these linux fanatics. Most of it was
long winded, drawn out messages letting me know what an
idiot I am for using Windows and not being able to install
Linux. Others went into long paragraphs attempting to
explain why Microsoft is evil and will soon be demanding
my first born (well not that bad, but you get the idea).

At first I thought this was humorous, but the more I think
about it the closer I come to the conclusion that a lot of
these Linux cultists actually might be mentally unstable.

I've lurked a little over in comp.os.linux.advocacy for a
day or two just for a laugh, but I will never knowingly
post there again. Too many usenet kooks over there for my
tastes.
SO

COMP,OS,LINUX,ADVOCACY is pretty much known as the septic tank of USENET.
It's loaded to the gunwales with trolls, kooks and oddballs all of whom
seem to have found each other. In some respects it is entertaining to
watch them try and convince people to use Linux but at the same time it is
sad to see people so wrapped up in an operating system that is virtually
dead at least as far as desktop using consumers are concerned. I work in
information Technology and have for the past 14 years and while I do see
Linux here and there, most of the people look at Linux as somewhat of an
experiment and not a mission critical system. The AIX techs and admins
cringe when they have to support an odd Linux server added to the company
and the Windows 2003 server people have all kinds of Linux jokes they pass
around for laughs.
Personally I find Linux interesting, but not ready for average Joe's
desktop.
However, I find the Linux groupies to be a strange, weird, almost
zen/cult like collection of misfits.
Talk to someone about Windows/Aix/OSX and it's a tool to run applications
that move data.
Have the same discussion with a Linux user and it's a religious experience.
T'ain't normal IMHO.

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:21:11 -0800, Roy L. Fuchs wrote:


While all of that is deadly accurate, I can't let it stand. I am going to
stomp my feet and hold my breath until I turn blue if you don't take it all
back. linux is our lord, bow down and worship linux.

Denial is the technique most often used by the Linux brainwashed.
Get help before you start to hurt yourself with razors and pins etc.

The racist, liar and software thief Phil (flatfish) nymshifted:

snip flatfish droppings

You lately nymshifted to

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"Yanick Schmuley" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:21:11 -0800, Roy L. Fuchs wrote:


While all of that is deadly accurate, I can't let it stand. I am going to
stomp my feet and hold my breath until I turn blue if you don't take it
all
back. linux is our lord, bow down and worship linux.

Denial is the technique most often used by the Linux brainwashed.
Get help before you start to hurt yourself with razors and pins etc.

I`ve tried for over a year to install linux, on a partition, on my machine.
I`ve D\loaded and burned 8 10 CDs. (Different flavours).
All attempts failed, including trying to get help from the linux `experts`.
I finally got one, `pclinuxos`, that worked first try.
Interesting this linux stuff, but not that useful to me software wise.
The favourite error i always got was `spooling too fast`. ???.

I can always fix WinXP if\when it goes wrong.
Let `em chuck the crap, I`ll clean it out, and keep trucking.
Have a great New Year.
bw..OJ

Richard Crowley wrote:

Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to.

This won't work for at least a couple of reasons. First, except in the
alt domain, it is all but impossible to create new newsgroups. Second,
Usenet provides no mechanism to shunt articles posted to one newsgroup
to another in the manner you describe.

In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

Being responsible for what you choose to read is often the best approach
to improving one's news reading experience, especially when articles one
finds offensive are not spam, blatantly off-topic, or otherwise
inappropriate. There could be legitimate and informative discussions of
audio applications that run under Linix/Unix, so they are not inherently
off-topic in rec.audio.pro.

--
================================================== ======================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at comcast dot net | - The Who, Bargain

"Michael R. Kesti" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote:
Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to.

This won't work for at least a couple of reasons. First, except in
the
alt domain, it is all but impossible to create new newsgroups.
Second,
Usenet provides no mechanism to shunt articles posted to one newsgroup
to another in the manner you describe.

Yes, I am aware of that. It was only a day-dream.

In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

Being responsible for what you choose to read is often the best
approach
to improving one's news reading experience, especially when articles
one
finds offensive are not spam, blatantly off-topic, or otherwise
inappropriate. There could be legitimate and informative discussions
of
audio applications that run under Linix/Unix, so they are not
inherently
off-topic in rec.audio.pro.

True as a first-order statement. However any
discussion of Linux so quickly devolves into
usless (and frequently offensive) drivel that it
is almost not even worth following them.

I'm sure that if there is some signficant breakthrough in
audio apps for Linux, we will hear about through
multiple channels.

On 2006-01-02, Phil wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:48:14 -0500, Steve O wrote:


Maybe we can create a newsgroup to shunt all postings
containing the words "linux" or "unix" etc. to. In the
meantime, the SNR of this newsgroup is significantly
improved by simply filtering out all those messages.

I believe that is why comp.os.linux.advocacy was created
in the first place. The technical and help Unix groups
were getting overrun with Linux zealots proselytizing
their new found religion and overloading the serious
groups their trollery.

I made the mistake of cross-posting a follow-up to
comp.os.linux.advocacy and my mailbox got bombarded with
email from some of these linux fanatics. Most of it was
long winded, drawn out messages letting me know what an
idiot I am for using Windows and not being able to install
Linux. Others went into long paragraphs attempting to
explain why Microsoft is evil and will soon be demanding
my first born (well not that bad, but you get the idea).

At first I thought this was humorous, but the more I think
about it the closer I come to the conclusion that a lot of
these Linux cultists actually might be mentally unstable.

I've lurked a little over in comp.os.linux.advocacy for a
day or two just for a laugh, but I will never knowingly
post there again. Too many usenet kooks over there for my
tastes.
SO

COMP,OS,LINUX,ADVOCACY is pretty much known as the septic tank of USENET.
It's loaded to the gunwales with trolls, kooks and oddballs all of whom
seem to have found each other. In some respects it is entertaining to
watch them try and convince people to use Linux but at the same time it is
sad to see people so wrapped up in an operating system that is virtually
dead at least as far as desktop using consumers are concerned. I work in
information Technology and have for the past 14 years and while I do see
Linux here and there, most of the people look at Linux as somewhat of an
experiment and not a mission critical system. The AIX techs and admins

Someone should tell the banking industry. Their ship saled without
you.

All the AIX admins I know would LOVE to get more Linux machines
in their shop. They're nice and cheap and quite handy for a number of
"mission critical" tasks. They also don't need to come with an IBM
style pricetag.

cringe when they have to support an odd Linux server added to the company
and the Windows 2003 server people have all kinds of Linux jokes they pass
around for laughs.

MCP's (or whatever the acronym of the month is) are brain
damaged to begin with. Whatever they think about the situation is
hardly relevant.

Personally I find Linux interesting, but not ready for average Joe's
desktop.

...which has what to do with AIX comparisons exactly?

Not to mention the reverse.

However, I find the Linux groupies to be a strange, weird, almost
zen/cult like collection of misfits.
Talk to someone about Windows/Aix/OSX and it's a tool to run applications
that move data.
Have the same discussion with a Linux user and it's a religious experience.
T'ain't normal IMHO.

Userland tools that haven't been neglected for the last 15
years tend to do that to a person. Even 10 years ago, many an AIX
or Sun admin (myself included, an SCSA) would throw quite a bit of
GNU at commercial unixen to make them more usable.

If you had ever actually talked to any professional Unix
sysadmin in your alleged 14 years, you would already know this.

--
Negligence will never equal intent, no matter how you
attempt to distort reality to do so. This is what separates |||
the real butchers from average Joes (or Fritzes) caught up in / | \
events not in their control.

You make some good points that I'd like to respond to. First though, I
am in no way a Linux zealot, troll or whatever... All but one of my
machines at home run Windows. I have experience with both, but for my
own uses I prefer Windows, if only because of the incredible amount of
applications available for it. However at work we run a mixed Windows
and Linux envronment and I have to say in *some* applications (i.e. web
and file servers) Linux often really works better than Windows.

I know that is a very vague statement, but we have had some of our
Linux servers up for over a year and they just keep running. These are
not static systems, we update them when necessary. Windows' security
and other updates often require rebooting. Updating a Linux machine
hardly ever requires a reboot, unless you want to recompile the kernel.
In my experience Linux systems are easier to keep secure and are more
stable than Windows syetems, generally speaking. As far as mission
critical machines go, we are getting ready to have our entire audio
broadcast platform migrate to Linux very soon. we are in the testing
phase now. We are not doing this lightly, we have considered it very
carefully.

That said, it's a hell of a learning curve and for most users Linux as
a desktop platform is simply not gonna work, if only due to
compatibility with the corporate world. It's gotten much better in the
last 5 years or so, but it needs another 5 to really compete. My
personal machines at work are all Windows 2k and XP, and for the
forseeable future they will stay that way.

jp

Phil wrote:


COMP,OS,LINUX,ADVOCACY is pretty much known as the septic tank of USENET.
It's loaded to the gunwales with trolls, kooks and oddballs all of whom
seem to have found each other. In some respects it is entertaining to
watch them try and convince people to use Linux but at the same time it is
sad to see people so wrapped up in an operating system that is virtually
dead at least as far as desktop using consumers are concerned. I work in
information Technology and have for the past 14 years and while I do see
Linux here and there, most of the people look at Linux as somewhat of an
experiment and not a mission critical system. The AIX techs and admins
cringe when they have to support an odd Linux server added to the company
and the Windows 2003 server people have all kinds of Linux jokes they pass
around for laughs.
Personally I find Linux interesting, but not ready for average Joe's
desktop.
However, I find the Linux groupies to be a strange, weird, almost
zen/cult like collection of misfits.
Talk to someone about Windows/Aix/OSX and it's a tool to run applications
that move data.
Have the same discussion with a Linux user and it's a religious experience.
T'ain't normal IMHO.