On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:51:05 GMT, wrote:

Thank god that strict constructionists have been limited in their
sphere of influence. Otherwise, my friend Rob would still be only
3/5th of a person and my sister wouldn't be able to vote.


That you think that would still be the case speaks to your lack of
confidence and your own bigotry.

You're joking of course. I'm looking at history, but apparently you
aren't.

Oh yeah, you claim that capitalism was moving toward equality when the
government stepped in. What evidence do you have for that? I'd say
virtually none. Without government intervention, we'd either still be
where we were in 1949 or we'd be in smoking ruins after the
ineveitable rend in the social fabric.

Plessy vs. Ferguson, is the most famous example.

So, you're telling me that you believe in the tenet of separate but
equal?

Capitalism wants to
attract new customers and if they have money,

Eye, there's the rub. But ask yourself this. Could Jackie Robinson eat
where your grandparents ate even though he probably had more moeny
then they did?

it wants them to be able to
spend it comfort.

Only after 1954-1964.

There was a Civil Rights movement and it was not made up of persons of
color.

Only after the National Guard was sent to Little Rock. to enforce
desegregation. Before that, discrimination was the status quo.

And yes, it WAS made up of persons of color as well as whites. Have
you forgotten Medgar Evers, James Meredith, Dr. Martin Luther King?
Murdered in driveway, shot almost to death, murdered at motel...

If you think that there weren't persons of color in the Civil Rights
movement, then you're sadly mistaken. 1/3rd of the young civil rights
workers murdered in MS in the famous '64 incident were black.

I don't know how you were raised but I was taught that racism was evil and
that people should be judged on their values, not their skin color. I
suspect I was not the only one.

It's easy for you to say that since you were pretty much raised after
1954. You're ignoring 160 years of institutionalized racism.

"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:51:05 GMT, wrote:

Thank god that strict constructionists have been limited in their
sphere of influence. Otherwise, my friend Rob would still be only
3/5th of a person and my sister wouldn't be able to vote.


That you think that would still be the case speaks to your lack of
confidence and your own bigotry.

You're joking of course. I'm looking at history, but apparently you
aren't.

Oh yeah, you claim that capitalism was moving toward equality when the
government stepped in. What evidence do you have for that? I'd say
virtually none. Without government intervention, we'd either still be
where we were in 1949 or we'd be in smoking ruins after the
ineveitable rend in the social fabric.

Plessy vs. Ferguson, is the most famous example.

So, you're telling me that you believe in the tenet of separate but
equal?

Of course not. The point is that it was a case that was challenging the
separation of the races.

Capitalism wants to
attract new customers and if they have money,

Eye, there's the rub. But ask yourself this. Could Jackie Robinson eat
where your grandparents ate even though he probably had more moeny
then they did?

it wants them to be able to
spend it comfort.

Only after 1954-1964.

Some struggles take a long time.

There was a Civil Rights movement and it was not made up of persons of
color.

Only after the National Guard was sent to Little Rock. to enforce
desegregation. Before that, discrimination was the status quo.


Therefore what? It can't ever change?

And yes, it WAS made up of persons of color as well as whites. Have
you forgotten Medgar Evers, James Meredith, Dr. Martin Luther King?
Murdered in driveway, shot almost to death, murdered at motel...

No, I have not forgotten, that was the point, the fight for equal rights was
not fought only by those who were being oppressed.

If you think that there weren't persons of color in the Civil Rights
movement, then you're sadly mistaken. 1/3rd of the young civil rights
workers murdered in MS in the famous '64 incident were black.

I don't know how you were raised but I was taught that racism was evil and
that people should be judged on their values, not their skin color. I
suspect I was not the only one.

It's easy for you to say that since you were pretty much raised after
1954. You're ignoring 160 years of institutionalized racism.

I was born in 1949, and I do remember the TV showing coverage of the
National Guard in Little Rock. I was taught that people should be treated
equally and never found any reason to believe there was any reason not to.