On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:58:03 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


Or the fact that I talk about how "lean" the speaker is throughout
most of the review. I went back and looked for the phrase "bloom in
the midrange" and didn't see it. Perhaps you could provide the quote
in context. I searched for it and the only example of that phrase was
someone telling me that they didn't expect me to write a phrase like
that. Perhaps your memory is faulty.

In fact, when attempting to explain to Paul Dormer what I meant by
lean (hey, there's a third!) I said "When the sound is lean (jangly
top end and punchy low end)...". Note the FR emphasis points. Sounds
to me that I intuitively recognized this hole (surely you don't claim
that there is NO midrange possible with this configuration) that
you're discussing. But perhaps you could show this damming phrase that
you quote in context.

LOL, there's a hole of 2 khz Dave in one of frequency range where the
music have most of information.
Your review is like your general RAO writings blur, hollow and undefine
full of way to escape in case of attack.

A serious audio lover and good audio reviewer would have written first
"this speakers have a redhibitory hole in the high-midrange..."

So you say. That's YOUR opinion. I think I described the traits of the
speaker, and I certainly didn't use the phrase "midrange bloat" or
make ANY such representations of anything close to that.

My conclusion is that you have hearing problem. Your audio comments on
RAO have zero value.
You are deaf Dave, deal with it.

So, you were lying with the comment about "bloated midrange".

BTW, you seem to be saying that this speaker cannot EVEN reproduce 2
khz.

Actually it sounds to me like I was confirming EXACTLY what you were
quoting about the speaker combination. That sort of "hole", as you
put it, would cause a speaker to be very lean.

Poor little Lionel...that chip keeps getting bigger and bigger and
bigger...and now you've come down to lying about what people have
written. SHAME ON YOU!

In , dave weil wrote :

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:58:03 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


Or the fact that I talk about how "lean" the speaker is throughout
most of the review. I went back and looked for the phrase "bloom in
the midrange" and didn't see it. Perhaps you could provide the quote
in context. I searched for it and the only example of that phrase was
someone telling me that they didn't expect me to write a phrase like
that. Perhaps your memory is faulty.

In fact, when attempting to explain to Paul Dormer what I meant by
lean (hey, there's a third!) I said "When the sound is lean (jangly
top end and punchy low end)...". Note the FR emphasis points. Sounds
to me that I intuitively recognized this hole (surely you don't claim
that there is NO midrange possible with this configuration) that
you're discussing. But perhaps you could show this damming phrase that
you quote in context.

LOL, there's a hole of 2 khz Dave in one of frequency range where the
music have most of information.
Your review is like your general RAO writings blur, hollow and undefine
full of way to escape in case of attack.

A serious audio lover and good audio reviewer would have written first
"this speakers have a redhibitory hole in the high-midrange..."

So you say. That's YOUR opinion. I think I described the traits of the
speaker, and I certainly didn't use the phrase "midrange bloat" or
make ANY such representations of anything close to that.

My conclusion is that you have hearing problem. Your audio comments on
RAO have zero value.
You are deaf Dave, deal with it.

So, you were lying with the comment about "bloated midrange".

BTW, you seem to be saying that this speaker cannot EVEN reproduce 2
khz.

Actually it sounds to me like I was confirming EXACTLY what you were
quoting about the speaker combination. That sort of "hole",

Poor Dave it's not a sort of "hole" it's a real frequencies garbage.

as you
put it, would cause a speaker to be very lean.

This is totaly false. Your review is full of such word that don't mean
anything or which mean everything.
If I was criticizing the lack of low mids you would have answer : I have
written that this speakers are very lean... Idem for bass, highs...

You *should* know that a lean speaker is usually lacking of powerful highs
which is not the case of the YAG-20.
I'm sorry Dave a good audio reviewer need to have a precise vocabulary and a
good hearing. You are lacking of both.
Consequence, your review is applicable to 99.99% of the mediocre speakers.
At least did you write that they were mediocre speakers ? ;-)


Poor little Lionel...that chip keeps getting bigger and bigger and
bigger...and now you've come down to lying about what people have
written. SHAME ON YOU!

Shame on *you* Dave. You are playing the audio expert and you are just
showing us that you are totaly unable to make the difference between a good
a ****ty speaker.
Dave Weil, the only speaker reviewer who uses is intuition rather than his
hearing. What a joke. :-D

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:01:23 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Poor little Lionel...that chip keeps getting bigger and bigger and
bigger...and now you've come down to lying about what people have
written. SHAME ON YOU!

Shame on *you* Dave. You are playing the audio expert and you are just
showing us that you are totaly unable to make the difference between a good
a ****ty speaker.
Dave Weil, the only speaker reviewer who uses is intuition rather than his
hearing. What a joke. :-D

Actually it's YOU who's playing "audio expert". I never made such a
claim, and my review was not a "technical" review, but a "user's
review". I never pretended anything else. YOU, on the other hand,
haven't heard the speaker in question and you are basing your comments
on ephemeral stuff.

BTW, I note that you never admitted your lie regarding my review. Too
embarassed to admit that you are pre-Altheimer's, or have you already
forgotten?

Oh yeah, we have different ideas about what "lean" means. Such a
description is necessarily "subjective" anyway. And since your command
of the English language is pretty suspect anyway, I'll just put it
down to cultural differences. MY idea of "lean" is lacking fullness
and "thickness" and this manifests itself mostly in the midrange,
although it can apply to bass as well. Your mileage may vary. But mine
woud never include HF when it comes to using the term "lean". Nor have
I ever seen anyone talk about "lean" and HF.

Perhaps you might think of lean in terms of size, not direction
chuckle.

In , dave weil wrote :

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:01:23 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

Poor little Lionel...that chip keeps getting bigger and bigger and
bigger...and now you've come down to lying about what people have
written. SHAME ON YOU!

Shame on *you* Dave. You are playing the audio expert and you are just
showing us that you are totaly unable to make the difference between a
good a ****ty speaker.
Dave Weil, the only speaker reviewer who uses is intuition rather than his
hearing. What a joke. :-D

...and my review was not a "technical" review, but a "user's
review". I never pretended anything else.

We agree on that that's exactly my point a deaf user review...
I never pretend anything else.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:58:33 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

...and my review was not a "technical" review, but a "user's
review". I never pretended anything else.

We agree on that that's exactly my point a deaf user review...
I never pretend anything else.

Except that I talked about "bloated midrange".

dave weil a écrit :
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:58:33 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


...and my review was not a "technical" review, but a "user's
review". I never pretended anything else.

We agree on that that's exactly my point a deaf user review...
I never pretend anything else.


Except that I talked about "bloated midrange".

Something which doesn't exist cannot be bloated...

Sorry Dave,

You lose,

Again.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:39:27 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:58:33 +0100, Lionel
wrote:


...and my review was not a "technical" review, but a "user's
review". I never pretended anything else.

We agree on that that's exactly my point a deaf user review...
I never pretend anything else.


Except that I talked about "bloated midrange".

Something which doesn't exist cannot be bloated...

According to you, I said that. And it indicated a "hearing loss".

Sorry Dave,

I lose,

Again.

Agreed.

dave weil wrote :

So, you were lying with the comment about "bloated midrange".

Why are you still lying about your review Dave ?
You were speaking of "upper bass/lower midrange" and we are speaking know
about upper midrange and low trebble in the 1 khz to 3 khz.

I remember that you told me one day that you were a very good musician so I
give you now the A = 440 hz... ;-)

Don't tell me that you were also lying about your musician talent ? No, Dave
please... :-D

dave weil wrote :

So, you were lying with the comment about "bloated midrange".

Why are you still lying about your review Dave ?
You were speaking of "upper bass/lower midrange" and we are speaking now
about upper midrange and low trebble in the 1 khz to 3 khz.

I remember that you told me one day that you were a very good musician so I
give you now the A...440 hz... Can you hear it ? ;-)

Don't tell me that you were also lying about your musician talent ? No, Dave
please... :-D