Mike McKelvy has now endorsed WAVAC ampliers for those people who like
tube amplifiers and have the wherewithal to purchase them.

Not only are they selling for half of his stated idea of their cost,
he says that they are like every tube amp he's ever heard, only more
so, and he has found tube amps to offer a significant difference over
the standard SS amp.

And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
Mike McKelvy has now endorsed WAVAC ampliers for those people who like
tube amplifiers and have the wherewithal to purchase them.

Especially if you like oodles of distortion. Come to think of it that
pretty much descibes you.


Not only are they selling for half of his stated idea of their cost,
he says that they are like every tube amp he's ever heard, only more
so, and he has found tube amps to offer a significant difference over
the standard SS amp.

Please provide the quote for that. I have said many times that tube amps
can and sometimes obvioulsly do sound different from SS, SET's being the
prime example.

And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell the
truth.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:20:35 GMT, wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
Mike McKelvy has now endorsed WAVAC ampliers for those people who like
tube amplifiers and have the wherewithal to purchase them.

Especially if you like oodles of distortion. Come to think of it that
pretty much descibes you.


Not only are they selling for half of his stated idea of their cost,
he says that they are like every tube amp he's ever heard, only more
so, and he has found tube amps to offer a significant difference over
the standard SS amp.

Please provide the quote for that. I have said many times that tube amps
can and sometimes obvioulsly do sound different from SS, SET's being the
prime example.

You just said it.

You also said this:

"I have listened to tube amps before, all of them measured better than
the WAVAC. All of them sounded worse that any SS amp I've ever
heard.."

If by worse, you didn't mean different, then you might wish to
explain...

And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell the
truth.

I would suggest that Mr. Atkinson might find this libelous.

BTW, are you now saying that you DO need to perform a dbt or abx
trial? Which is it, Mr. McKelvy? You seem completely confused at this
moment.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:20:35 GMT, wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
. ..
Mike McKelvy has now endorsed WAVAC ampliers for those people who like
tube amplifiers and have the wherewithal to purchase them.

Especially if you like oodles of distortion. Come to think of it that
pretty much descibes you.


Not only are they selling for half of his stated idea of their cost,
he says that they are like every tube amp he's ever heard, only more
so, and he has found tube amps to offer a significant difference over
the standard SS amp.

Please provide the quote for that. I have said many times that tube amps
can and sometimes obvioulsly do sound different from SS, SET's being the
prime example.

You just said it.

You also said this:

"I have listened to tube amps before, all of them measured better than
the WAVAC. All of them sounded worse that any SS amp I've ever
heard.."

If by worse, you didn't mean different, then you might wish to
explain...



And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell the
truth.

I would suggest that Mr. Atkinson might find this libelous.


Since both of you have a habit of distorting what other people say, I doubt
it.

BTW, are you now saying that you DO need to perform a dbt or abx
trial? Which is it, Mr. McKelvy? You seem completely confused at this
moment.

The only one confused is you. I've stated many times when an ABX comparison
is useful.

For something like the WAVAC it would not be, since given how it measures,
you'd have to be deaf not to notice how much different it sounds from
regular amps.

wrote in message
nk.net...

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:20:35 GMT, wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
...
Mike McKelvy has now endorsed WAVAC ampliers for those people who like
tube amplifiers and have the wherewithal to purchase them.

Especially if you like oodles of distortion. Come to think of it that
pretty much descibes you.


Not only are they selling for half of his stated idea of their cost,
he says that they are like every tube amp he's ever heard, only more
so, and he has found tube amps to offer a significant difference over
the standard SS amp.

Please provide the quote for that. I have said many times that tube amps
can and sometimes obvioulsly do sound different from SS, SET's being the
prime example.

You just said it.

You also said this:

"I have listened to tube amps before, all of them measured better than
the WAVAC. All of them sounded worse that any SS amp I've ever
heard.."

If by worse, you didn't mean different, then you might wish to
explain...



And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell the
truth.

I would suggest that Mr. Atkinson might find this libelous.


Since both of you have a habit of distorting what other people say, I
doubt it.

BTW, are you now saying that you DO need to perform a dbt or abx
trial? Which is it, Mr. McKelvy? You seem completely confused at this
moment.

The only one confused is you. I've stated many times when an ABX
comparison is useful.

For something like the WAVAC it would not be, since given how it measures,
you'd have to be deaf not to notice how much different it sounds from
regular amps.


TSk, tsk, we must IMMEDIATELY order a test
for Mikey, those pesky listener biases are taking over!

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:54:36 GMT, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell the
truth.

I would suggest that Mr. Atkinson might find this libelous.


Since both of you have a habit of distorting what other people say, I doubt
it.

BTW, are you now saying that you DO need to perform a dbt or abx
trial? Which is it, Mr. McKelvy? You seem completely confused at this
moment.

The only one confused is you. I've stated many times when an ABX comparison
is useful.

For something like the WAVAC it would not be, since given how it measures,
you'd have to be deaf not to notice how much different it sounds from
regular amps.

Unproven.

And glad to see that you've let the magazines off the hook when it
comes to dbts, since they're mostly unnecessary.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:54:36 GMT, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

And since he's now on record as saying that you don't even have to
listen to them and that you don't need a dbt or abx trial to
confidently choose them, you can feel confident that they will offer
you the ultimate in tube amplification.

You should work for Atkinson, neither of you seems to be able to tell
the
truth.

I would suggest that Mr. Atkinson might find this libelous.


Since both of you have a habit of distorting what other people say, I
doubt
it.

BTW, are you now saying that you DO need to perform a dbt or abx
trial? Which is it, Mr. McKelvy? You seem completely confused at this
moment.

The only one confused is you. I've stated many times when an ABX
comparison
is useful.

For something like the WAVAC it would not be, since given how it measures,
you'd have to be deaf not to notice how much different it sounds from
regular amps.

Unproven.

Demonstrable for anyone who has seen the measurements.

And glad to see that you've let the magazines off the hook when it
comes to dbts, since they're mostly unnecessary.

ONLY WHE THE DIFFERENCES AS MEASURABLE AS THOSE OF THE WAVAC. FOR SUBTLE
DIFFERENCE A MORE SENSITIVE FORM OF COMPARISON IS NEEDED.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:31:15 GMT, wrote:

And glad to see that you've let the magazines off the hook when it
comes to dbts, since they're mostly unnecessary.

ONLY WHE THE DIFFERENCES AS MEASURABLE AS THOSE OF THE WAVAC. FOR SUBTLE
DIFFERENCE A MORE SENSITIVE FORM OF COMPARISON IS NEEDED.

So, that means that Mr. Ludwig doesn't have to do DBTs.

Cool.