Poor Mikey Bug-Eater. All the crickets are gone and it's too early for
caterpillars.

The repeated, inane demands that Normals "prove" aBxism is not valid is
completely wrongheaded.

Nobody is asking you to prove it wrong, only that there is some other method
AT LEAST as reliable.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Have you not been listening, or is this apparent stupidity
a manifestation of actual stupidity? Oh wait, that's probably a stupid question.

A human being doesn't need anything more reliable than his own mind. You and the
other 'borgs, being of unsound mind, are obviously drawn to other, uh,
methodologies of existence.


BTW, Arnii just contradicted you about wanting to work at a real audio company.
Are your pants on fire? ;-)


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"George Middius" wrote in message
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Poor Mikey Bug-Eater. All the crickets are gone and it's too early for
caterpillars.

The repeated, inane demands that Normals "prove" aBxism is not valid is
completely wrongheaded.

Nobody is asking you to prove it wrong, only that there is some other
method
AT LEAST as reliable.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Have you not been listening, or is this apparent
stupidity
a manifestation of actual stupidity? Oh wait, that's probably a stupid
question.

A human being doesn't need anything more reliable than his own mind.

Then why are so opposed to the idea of getting the most reliable evidence of
difference?
That process is the direct result of using a human's mind.

You and the
other 'borgs, being of unsound mind, are obviously drawn to other, uh,
methodologies of existence.

Acrually, we're just drawn to knowing the truth, especially when it is about
our favorite hobby. People buys their gear for whatever reasons they
choose. Those that want the best performance need a way to determine if
there is any reason to think one thing is better than another at reproducing
audio recordings. ABX is one of the ways to get such information, not the
only way, but ONE of the ways.

One of my goals has always been to get other people to love good audio
reproduction as much as I do, because there aren't nearly enough people to
talk to about it.

If they are constantly told that they HAVE to spend enourmous amounts of
money on each component, instead of concentrating on the single most
important parts, speakers, I think it puts a lot of people off.

While there's nothing wrong with spending 10's of thousands of dollars for a
top quality sound system, knowing that it can be done by starting with
something like a Behringer A500 160 wpc amp that only costs $179.00
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHA500 is IMO very useful to somebody looking
to build a quality system.

Thanks to protocols like ABX and ABC/HR, it's now becoming common knowledge
that amplifers with flat response and plenty of power are not cost
prohibitive.

It's going to take a while longer to get more people up to speed on what it
is possible to do with one's money when assembling a top quality system, but
that day will come and I look forward to people who are armed with the best
possible information to make their choices with.

Then maybe the focus will shift primarily to loudspeaker design and being
where the most money should be spent.

duh-Mikey tries to usurp the Krooborg's position as RAO's High Snotty Priestborg
of aBxism.

It's going to take a while longer to get more people up to speed on what it
is possible to do with one's money when assembling a top quality system, but
that day will come and I look forward to people who are armed with the best
possible information to make their choices with.

I've asked Arnii many times to keep his disgusting religion off this newsgroup.
Now I'll ask you the same thing. Nobody here (except Arnii and a few raggedy-ass
lesser 'borgs) wants to chant along with you. Nobody else believes choosing
audio gear is an exercise in "science". Nobody else wants to surrender their
free will to a nasty little clicky-box and some agonizing torture rituals.

You're not going to convert anybody here to your lame-ass religion, Mickey. Give
it up. I'd tell you get a life, but it's more pertinent to suggest you sacrifice
the ersatz one you already have so that a worthwhile person can use the oxygen
you're wasting.



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"George Middius" wrote in message
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Poor Mikey Bug-Eater. All the crickets are gone and it's too early for
caterpillars.

The repeated, inane demands that Normals "prove" aBxism is not valid is
completely wrongheaded.

Nobody is asking you to prove it wrong, only that there is some other
method
AT LEAST as reliable.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Have you not been listening, or is this apparent
stupidity
a manifestation of actual stupidity? Oh wait, that's probably a stupid
question.

A human being doesn't need anything more reliable than his own mind.

Then why are so opposed to the idea of getting the most reliable evidence
of difference?
That process is the direct result of using a human's mind.

You and the
other 'borgs, being of unsound mind, are obviously drawn to other, uh,
methodologies of existence.

Acrually, we're just drawn to knowing the truth,
You're supposed to put "Jesus" in there, not "truth".

especially when it is about
our favorite hobby. People buys their gear for whatever reasons they
Blue collar spelling noted, as in, "You pays your money and you makes your
choice."

choose. Those that want the best performance need a way to determine if
there is any reason to think one thing is better than another at
reproducing audio recordings. ABX is one of the ways to get such
information, not the only way, but ONE of the ways.

No, it is not. As Ludovic has shown, it is actually counterproductive.

One of my goals has always been to get other people to love good audio
reproduction as much as I do, because there aren't nearly enough people to
talk to about it.

There would be, if you would kindly leave this group.

If they are constantly told that they HAVE to spend enourmous amounts of
money on each component, instead of concentrating on the single most
important parts, speakers, I think it puts a lot of people off.

That is true. However, putting a perception-destroying process in the way,
namely ABX, is a far greater evil.


While there's nothing wrong with spending 10's of thousands of dollars for
a top quality sound system, knowing that it can be done by starting with
something like a Behringer A500 160 wpc amp that only costs $179.00
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHA500 is IMO very useful to somebody
looking to build a quality system.

WRONG.

Thanks to protocols like ABX and ABC/HR, it's now becoming common
knowledge that amplifers with flat response and plenty of power are not
cost prohibitive.

True. Unfortunately, the cheap ones don't sound any good.

It's going to take a while longer to get more people up to speed on what
it is possible to do with one's money when assembling a top quality
system, but that day will come and I look forward to people who are armed
with the best possible information to make their choices with.

Best obtained by ignoring you.

Then maybe the focus will shift primarily to loudspeaker design and being
where the most money should be spent.

It already has. You are behind the eight-ball, as usual.