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I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

And only if you live in the US. SACD is doing much
better in Europe and in Asia.

Higher percentage of audiophools, it seems. Or maybe just
classical music buyers.

2. DVD-a is highest quality, but who makes DVD'a Cd's,
and I won't be able to burn my own CD's.

You can make DVD-A's with a PC with the right software
and a regular DVD burner.

And about $3 grand of recording gear.

The only really nasty part of the mix is the microphones.

However, one can beat Harry's inflated estimate by 50% or
more if you know how to spell Earthworks.

Because other than
a smattering of pop, there is precious little DVD-A out
there. And now with DualDisk, the "DVD-A" that is being
released has been dumbed dow to 48/24, not 96/24 or
192/24.

Actually, its been smartened up, because higher sample rates
were always a sucker play. Now all they have to admit to
reality when it comes to word sizes.

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I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

I question Harry's claim in any case. A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases. Most are still CDs. This
includes both 'new' new releases, and reissues.

In article ,
Steven Sullivan wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

I question Harry's claim in any case. A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases. Most are still CDs. This
includes both 'new' new releases, and reissues.

Hard to argue with "becoming." Like SNL's Dan Quayle, SACD is "still
gaining acceptance."

Stephen

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
Steven Sullivan wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

I question Harry's claim in any case. A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases. Most are still CDs. This
includes both 'new' new releases, and reissues.

Hard to argue with "becoming." Like SNL's Dan Quayle, SACD is "still
gaining acceptance."

In the 'new releases' displays in the classical section of Virgin,
I counted 2 SACD releases out of ~45 new releases (almost all of
which were new recordings, not reissues). Both were Mahler symphonies.
One other recording was a DSD recording, but released as CD. That's it.
'Dominance' of the genre's new releases seems a long way off.

"Steven Sullivan" wrote in message
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MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
Steven Sullivan wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Michael" wrote in message
t

I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

I question Harry's claim in any case. A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases. Most are still CDs. This
includes both 'new' new releases, and reissues.

Hard to argue with "becoming." Like SNL's Dan Quayle, SACD is "still
gaining acceptance."

In the 'new releases' displays in the classical section of Virgin,
I counted 2 SACD releases out of ~45 new releases (almost all of
which were new recordings, not reissues). Both were Mahler symphonies.
One other recording was a DSD recording, but released as CD. That's it.
'Dominance' of the genre's new releases seems a long way off.


Completely ignoring the fact that the classical music market is European
centered and most new release never see the inside of a U.S. bricks and
mortar store.

In article ,
Steven Sullivan wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
Steven Sullivan wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Michael" wrote in message
t

I'm looking to get a new CD-player and can't decide on
whether to get a SACD unit or DVD-a compatible one?

Why not get a player that is compatible with all of the
above? Heck, even I have one!

My thinking is:

1. SACD will play CD's and that would be great for
computer burned CD's, but is the format short lived?

IMO SACD is already dead as a mainstream audio media
format.

Unless you are interested in classical music, where it is
becoming the dominant medium for new releases.

A sad comment on the state of new releases.

I question Harry's claim in any case. A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases. Most are still CDs. This
includes both 'new' new releases, and reissues.

Hard to argue with "becoming." Like SNL's Dan Quayle, SACD is "still
gaining acceptance."

In the 'new releases' displays in the classical section of Virgin,
I counted 2 SACD releases out of ~45 new releases (almost all of
which were new recordings, not reissues). Both were Mahler symphonies.
One other recording was a DSD recording, but released as CD. That's it.
'Dominance' of the genre's new releases seems a long way off.

You should go to the classical section of Austin's Waterloo Records,
which has many more than two new classical SACD titles.

Stephen

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:10:00 GMT, MINe 109
wrote:

In the 'new releases' displays in the classical section of Virgin,
I counted 2 SACD releases out of ~45 new releases (almost all of
which were new recordings, not reissues). Both were Mahler symphonies.
One other recording was a DSD recording, but released as CD. That's it.
'Dominance' of the genre's new releases seems a long way off.

You should go to the classical section of Austin's Waterloo Records,
which has many more than two new classical SACD titles.

Well, Waterloo is one of those "special stores", isn't it? You can
create megastores all over the world, but you can't manufacture a
top-down love of music. That has to come from a "sense of purpose".
Waterloo has just that sense of purpose.

In article ,
dave weil wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:10:00 GMT, MINe 109
wrote:

In the 'new releases' displays in the classical section of Virgin,
I counted 2 SACD releases out of ~45 new releases (almost all of
which were new recordings, not reissues). Both were Mahler symphonies.
One other recording was a DSD recording, but released as CD. That's it.
'Dominance' of the genre's new releases seems a long way off.

You should go to the classical section of Austin's Waterloo Records,
which has many more than two new classical SACD titles.

Well, Waterloo is one of those "special stores", isn't it? You can
create megastores all over the world, but you can't manufacture a
top-down love of music. That has to come from a "sense of purpose".
Waterloo has just that sense of purpose.

Of course. As for the high-rez formats, for them to succeed would take a
greater commitment from the major record and electronics corporations.
Imagine how slowly cds would have caught on if lps hadn't disappeared
from stores overnight.

Stephen

Sillybot doffs his priestly mantle in favor of workman's clothes.

A visit to the
local CD emporium (Tower) does not support the idea
that SACD is the dominant medium for new
classical releases.

Where's the diatribe demanding "proof" that SACD is a superior format? Where's
the denunciation of "flummery" inherent in "audiophile" software? I declare,
Sillybot, this dispassionate approach to a powderkeg issue like SACD casts a
pall over your Hivie credentials.